Cannot see 1 of 3 computers

[Guest]

Chuck, just a quick response.

I do not see a restrictanonymous entry in the Lsa of my Registry.

--
Ron

cdiags coming below:

<SNIP>

Ron,

Very interesting results.

1) Both Pavilion and Claudette see Ron as the master browser (for Claudette, in
NBT only). Neither Pavilion nor Claudette can access the registry in Ron,
though ("error = 53"). An error 53 is "not found", indicating a name resolution
issue.

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: RON
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\RON . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master RON
\\RON
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}

2) None of the computers have any trouble displaying the share list on any
other ("net view"). Both Ron and Pavilion, however, have trouble pinging
Claudette.

Pinging claudette [192.168.0.101] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.101: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=128
Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.101: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.101:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 2ms

3) Claudette shows itself as the master browser in IPX, but Ron as the master
browser in NBT.

Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\CLAUDETTE
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master CLAUDETTE
\\CLAUDETTE
There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: RON
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\RON . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master RON
\\RON
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}
Unable to retrieve server list from RON: 64


Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

Issue 1 is most likely a misbehaving firewall. What firewalls do you have, or
have ever had, on Ron? Ron is running XP SP2 - is the File and Printer Sharing
exception enabled?

Also, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value
restrictanonymous.
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
<http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403

The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K
is NT V5.0.

Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's
pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might
help:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
<http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>

Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
appropriate.

From the Annoyances article:
You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a
branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and
press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad
(right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry
patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the
registry.

Issue 2 - dropped packets between Ron / Pavilion and Claudette - is a network
(probably wireless) issue. Have you loaded the most up to date drivers for the
wireless card?

Issue 3 - Claudette is running a browser. You need to either un install
IPX/SPX, or Stop then Disable the browser service on Claudette, or both.

If you're going to have 2 computers running a browser (recommended for a 3
computer LAN), then Pavilion should be the backup, not Claudette.

Do you really need IPX / SPX on Claudette? What other network is it used on?

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Chuck]

OK, Chuck -- thanks again for the help and analysis. Let me respond to some
of your questions:

1) Just a couple of minutes before I read your post, I sent off a Firewall
question to the D-Link tech support guys. I don't understand their firewall
setup -- don't even know how it is working -- and don't know why it would
single out computer A on the home net. It has occured to me that this looks
like some sort of firewall problem -- that's how firealls are supposed to
work, isn't it.

As far as the Windows XP Firewall is concerned, File and Printer Sharing,
Remote Assistance, and UPnP Framework(?) is enabled on Computer A (Ron), and
the same on Computer C (claudette) -- Zone Alarm running on Computer B
(Pavilion).

I haven't done anything exotic, anywhere, because things are starting to get
complicated -- so I pretty much go with default settings whenever possible.

I have done Registry things, several years ago. I will look into the things
you have suggested, carefully. As this is a new computer, as of December,
2004, I wouldn't think too much is screwed up yet.

2) Yeah, dropped packets, I didn't want to throw that into the situation.
I have been having that problem since Nov, 2003 -- when I purchased the
laptop for my wife -- and set up a 2 computer network. It is beyond annoying
-- she pretty much does't use it much except for email. It hangs up when
surfing the Internet (i.e. screen updates just stop, and recover much later
after timeouts, I think -- maybe because of packet drops?). The most
annoying things is the email operation. The system does not seem to have
problems receiving email, but when sending email, we get lots of Server timed
out errors. I have had to re-send the email as many as 20 (yeah, 20) times
before it will go out -- beyond frustrating.

The laptop has the Centrino chip set in it -- can that stuff be updated.

As far as the email problem is concerned, it has gotten better ever since
last week when I rearranged my computer area -- moving my newer computer onto
my main table and relocating the older computer to another table a few feet
away. Ever since I have had the router, it has been positioned right next to
a 23" CRT monitor -- whereas it is now behind my 17" LCD monitor and the 23"
monitor on its way to good will, once I get all of my files transferred off
of it. I am now wondering if the large CRT was affecting the wireless
transmissions. Sometimes I wonder how the laptop is even working when it
seems to be dropping probably 50% of the pings.

3) Regarding the laptop, I don't need any of the TCP stuff I mentioned in my
previous note -- at least as far as I know of -- it is not used on any other
networks -- I don't even know what that other stuff is. As I said, I don't
start changing default things because I generally don't know what I am
changing. However, as I said, I am not doing anything exotic (just using
laptop in my home for wireless access and non-Internet stand-alone use) -- so
if I don't need it, I am more than willing to delete it. As far as you know,
should I go ahead and uninstall the Network Monitor and the other 2 NW Link
middle-ware programs.

OK, sorry for the long response. I will look into the Registry things you
suggested and get back to you -- but hope I don't have to change anything.
As I said, I have only been using this system for a few months, so don't know
what I could have done to mess it up.

Ron,

It is a pleasure to read a post here with detail and coherence. No problems
about its length. And what you said was well said.

1) I think you have a common misconception about routers and firewalls. The
firewall (if it has one, and not all NAT router do) on a NAT router is between
the WAN (Internet) and LAN (your computers). There is no firewall between your
computers themselves, that's a part of the router. Your computers are
interconnected thru a switch, which provides no filtering.

What model D-Link is it?

Pray that the registry setting is the problem. With every thing working on your
LAN, save the 3 minor issues I identified, there's not going to be too many
things to look for. If you're absolutely sure that there's no firewalls. What
AntiVirus or other security package do you have?

2) You have a wireless problem for sure. Since you have a D-Link router (WAP)
talking to an Intel client, lots of luck getting D-Link or Intel to fix it.

It's quite possible the monitor is part of the problem. Also any microwave
oven, or cordless phone, could be a problem. How far is the router to the
laptop typically? Any walls involved? A 1 foot wall causes way more than 1
foot of air, in signal degradation.

Try another channel on the router - if on channel 1, move to 11. If on 11, move
to 1. If on 6, move to 1 or 11 then the other. See if the signal improves.

Also check the antenna direction, and elevation, for the router and laptop.
Both antennas pointed vertically, and at the same height from the floor, is
best. The closer the two are placed, with different elevation or antenna
orientation, the better chance for signal loss.

For more wireless help, try newsgroups alt.internet.wireless and
microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless. Also, the DSLReports Forums for
D-Link and for Wireless Networking could be very helpful - there is a lot of
expert presence there.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/dlink
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wsecurity (this one for the long term)

3) Neither IPX/SPX/NetBEUI, nor the Network Monitor, should be necessary for
your LAN. Just un install each (then reboot). You only need the following
items in the list under Local Area Connection Properties:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Then, make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers. Local
Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP - Properties - Advanced - WINS - Enable
NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

If the laptop is typically used in the same room with the router, I'd sooner
clean up its network components stack than play with antennas / interference
sources.

But do check with Intel / laptop vendor / D-Link for newer drivers / firmware.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck, just a quick response.

I do not see a restrictanonymous entry in the Lsa of my Registry.

Dang.

What AntiVirus package do you have?

Look in "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc" for files Hosts and LMHosts. Any
entry in either (ignore "127.0.0.1 localhost")? Node Types (from IPConfig) are
all Hybrid, and Unknown, no problem there.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Guest]

Chuck-

1) OK, I understand what you are saying about the D-Link router. It is a
DI-514 -- a pretty cheap router I picked up when we got my wife's laptop last
Thanksgiving, 2003. And yes, good luck in getting anyone to spend any time
on my problem. The D-Link people regularly blow me off, 3 or 4 times in the
last year when I have tried to get the email send problem (20 times to send
an email) resolved.

I don't have a cordless phone and there is probably not a microwave issue.
The problem is pretty much the same whether the laptop is located in another
room or in the same room, approx. 6' from the router (no detactable
difference). Also, the operation has been the same in another house (moved
in May) -- so there has been no change in the wireless operation since I got
the router, Nov, 2003.

So now I have a new computer and a new house in the mix -- not much else to
look at -- except the Router itself and the laptop. Which brings me to
mention that I have been thinking about switching to another router --
they're not too expensive. Do you know about these things or have an opinion
or experience with any of them -- I was wondering about the Linksys routers.

I have the Semantec Norton 2004 90-day freebie Antivirus running on my new
Computer A (Ron) -- the stuff that comes installed on a new computer.
Actually, the update subscription expired last week (24th) -- and I am
thinking I will probably move to the Norton Antivirus 2005, or possibly the
Internet Security package which is their Antivirus packaged with their
firewall. I suppose if I do that, I need to disable the Windows Firewall --
is that right -- any thoughts or recommendations.

And as mentioned earlier, Windows Firewall is also running on Computer A
(Ron).

Freebies AVG Antivirus and Zone Alarm Firewall running on Computer B
(pavilion) and only Windows Firewall running on the laptop, Computer C
(claudette) -- plan on putting Antivirus software on that machine also,
probably the same as I get for Computer A.

2) Regarding router comments -- I don't know how to change channels on the
router. I don't see any switches on the router. Is that the channel 6 I see
in the default router configuration software or is it something else -- which
would mean I also have to change something else on the computer, doesn't it.

As I mentioned earlier, my laptop is often located 6'-7' from the router. I
think performance has improved since I moved my big CRT monitor, but it is
still sparatic based on the ping statistics. (I just turned the CRT monitor
off and tried the ping test -- no noticable change -- still fails approx. 50%
of the time.)

I'll look into the other forums you referenced -- thanks.

3) OK, I have uninstalled the IPX/SPX/NetBEUI and Network Monitor stuff.
Ping responses didn't improve -- still failing roughly 50% of the time.

One thing you mentioned is the "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" setting. None
of the computers have that option enabled. Als systems have the "Default:
Use NetBIOS settings from the DHCP server. If static . . . . . "


4) And finally, there was't any restrictanonymous entry in the Lsa area of
the Registry -- should there have been.

 

[Guest]

Chuck-
As in previous post, I am running Semantec Norton 2004 Antivirus with
Windows Firewall.

There are no entries in the lmhosts.sam file.

The hosts file only contains the "127.0.0.1 localhost" entry that you
mentioned -- nothing else.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck-

1) OK, I understand what you are saying about the D-Link router. It is a
DI-514 -- a pretty cheap router I picked up when we got my wife's laptop last
Thanksgiving, 2003. And yes, good luck in getting anyone to spend any time
on my problem. The D-Link people regularly blow me off, 3 or 4 times in the
last year when I have tried to get the email send problem (20 times to send
an email) resolved.

I don't have a cordless phone and there is probably not a microwave issue.
The problem is pretty much the same whether the laptop is located in another
room or in the same room, approx. 6' from the router (no detactable
difference). Also, the operation has been the same in another house (moved
in May) -- so there has been no change in the wireless operation since I got
the router, Nov, 2003.

So now I have a new computer and a new house in the mix -- not much else to
look at -- except the Router itself and the laptop. Which brings me to
mention that I have been thinking about switching to another router --
they're not too expensive. Do you know about these things or have an opinion
or experience with any of them -- I was wondering about the Linksys routers.

I have the Semantec Norton 2004 90-day freebie Antivirus running on my new
Computer A (Ron) -- the stuff that comes installed on a new computer.
Actually, the update subscription expired last week (24th) -- and I am
thinking I will probably move to the Norton Antivirus 2005, or possibly the
Internet Security package which is their Antivirus packaged with their
firewall. I suppose if I do that, I need to disable the Windows Firewall --
is that right -- any thoughts or recommendations.

And as mentioned earlier, Windows Firewall is also running on Computer A
(Ron).

Freebies AVG Antivirus and Zone Alarm Firewall running on Computer B
(pavilion) and only Windows Firewall running on the laptop, Computer C
(claudette) -- plan on putting Antivirus software on that machine also,
probably the same as I get for Computer A.

2) Regarding router comments -- I don't know how to change channels on the
router. I don't see any switches on the router. Is that the channel 6 I see
in the default router configuration software or is it something else -- which
would mean I also have to change something else on the computer, doesn't it.

As I mentioned earlier, my laptop is often located 6'-7' from the router. I
think performance has improved since I moved my big CRT monitor, but it is
still sparatic based on the ping statistics. (I just turned the CRT monitor
off and tried the ping test -- no noticable change -- still fails approx. 50%
of the time.)

I'll look into the other forums you referenced -- thanks.

3) OK, I have uninstalled the IPX/SPX/NetBEUI and Network Monitor stuff.
Ping responses didn't improve -- still failing roughly 50% of the time.

One thing you mentioned is the "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" setting. None
of the computers have that option enabled. Als systems have the "Default:
Use NetBIOS settings from the DHCP server. If static . . . . . "


4) And finally, there was't any restrictanonymous entry in the Lsa area of
the Registry -- should there have been.

Ron,

1) The DI-514 does have a small bit of firewall, but as I mentioned above, it
applies to the WAN only. No firewall in the LAN, so no chance that your problem
is there.

I use Linksys myself, and have no problem to report with them in general.
Asides that is, for the fact that my BEFSX41 turned into a brick when I tried to
upgrade the firmware last week. Dunno whose fault that was, but it's dead.
(

I have no idea whether the D-Link itself is responsible for your packet loss
problem, nor whether a new Linksys will improve, but, as you say, they're cheap
enough. And having a surplus (spare) router is never a bad idea, especially if
you're like me and like to do firmware upgrades.

The nice thing about Linksys is that the router log (intrusion detection) is
probably more complete than most NAT routers. You can get free WallWatcher
software to monitor traffic in and out of your LAN. Knowledge is one of the
essential layers in a layered security policy IMHO, and WallWatcher will provide
you pretty good knowledge about your LAN - WAN traffic.
http://www.wallwatcher.com/

I asked about your AntiVirus with the hopes that you, like more than one
previous poster in this forum, you'd turn out to have Norton Internet Security
package, which includes Norton Personal Firewall.

My experience with network issues like yours are causes like:
- Physical: No network / inconsistent network - disconnected or bad cable. Or
bad wireless connection.
- Logical: Bad firewall.
- Security: Setting like LSA: restrictanonymous.

2) You change the router channel from the router management screen, accessible
thru your browser. Looking at the manual for the DI-514, this is probably
:http://192.168.0.1".

3) The "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" setting, if universally set to Default, is
probably OK. But try changing them all to "Enable", just in case Ron is using
SMB instead of NBT.

I'm not done here yet, we've checked the most common solutions. I'll think a
bit more, and see what else might be going wrong.

Are you still getting "The network path was not found" when your Run "\\Ron"?
That's at interesting odds with the CDiag for both Pavilion and Claudette:

"net view Ron"

Shared resources at Ron

Ron's Computer - 11/26/04 - 1G Mem, 200G HD - $979.00

Share name Type Used as Comment

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apple IIe Disk
EPSONSty Print EPSON Stylus Photo RX600
HP LaserJet 2100 PCL6 Print HP LaserJet 2100 PCL6
HP LaserJet 2100 Series PS Print HP LaserJet 2100 Series PS
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.

Are all 3 computers in the same workgroup? What version - XP Home or Pro - on
each?

4) An LSA: restrictanonymous = "1" or "2" would have been a good candidate for
problem cause, a non-existent value is probably the same as a "0". Oh well.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Guest]

Chuck, may have missed your other question -- the NetBT entries -- or was it.

Anyway, I'm not sure what you were looking for there. There are a lot of
REG_DWORD entries, but didn't see anything that looked like a Node Type.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck, may have missed your other question -- the NetBT entries -- or was it.

Anyway, I'm not sure what you were looking for there. There are a lot of
REG_DWORD entries, but didn't see anything that looked like a Node Type.

Ron,

The Node Type entry is in IPConfig:

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Ron
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

Node Type describes how name to address resolution is done.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177

The NetBT entry I have only found in the Local Area Connection Properties
wizard. It's either set as "Default", "Enabled", or "Disabled". The "Default"
setting defers to the DHCP server, when there's a dedicated DHCP server on the
LAN. I don't know that any NAT router DHCP server sets this value; most advice
here will simply tell you to set it manually to "Enabled". If NBT is not
enabled, you could be using SMB, I don't know if that's the problem here.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=315267

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Guest]

Chuck,
With all my checks and changes, the network seems to kind of drift in and
out of operation -- but always in response to something I have done -- but
always recoverable. Possible when I was getting Path not Found, it was one
of the times when the network wasn't really quite working.

But now,

\\ron seems to be running on both computers B & C. It takes a while for the
screen to come up, but a window pops up with

"Ron's Computer -- 11/26/04 - 1GMem, 200G HD - $979.00 (ron)"

in the Blue Window Frame at the top of the window. (This is the Computer
description in Ron, except for the (ron) at the end.) Also, I didn't notice
this before because the window pops up with the verbage on the left side of
the screen, but when I click on the folders, and see the folders breakdown on
the left, I see the Ron computer under the Network Places\....\Mshome\, (with
the name above) along with claudette and pavilion.

Also, under the computer name, I see an Apple IIe folder (an emulator - my
son's work), a Shared Docs folder and a Printers and Faxes icon. That seems
correct, as I marked the Apple IIe as shared, since I knew it didn't exist on
the other computers and it would therefore help me to know I was looking at
the Ron computer.

This should be an important clue, shouldn't it.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck,
With all my checks and changes, the network seems to kind of drift in and
out of operation -- but always in response to something I have done -- but
always recoverable. Possible when I was getting Path not Found, it was one
of the times when the network wasn't really quite working.

But now,

\\ron seems to be running on both computers B & C. It takes a while for the
screen to come up, but a window pops up with

"Ron's Computer -- 11/26/04 - 1GMem, 200G HD - $979.00 (ron)"

in the Blue Window Frame at the top of the window. (This is the Computer
description in Ron, except for the (ron) at the end.) Also, I didn't notice
this before because the window pops up with the verbage on the left side of
the screen, but when I click on the folders, and see the folders breakdown on
the left, I see the Ron computer under the Network Places\....\Mshome\, (with
the name above) along with claudette and pavilion.

Also, under the computer name, I see an Apple IIe folder (an emulator - my
son's work), a Shared Docs folder and a Printers and Faxes icon. That seems
correct, as I marked the Apple IIe as shared, since I knew it didn't exist on
the other computers and it would therefore help me to know I was looking at
the Ron computer.

This should be an important clue, shouldn't it.

Ron,

So the current symptom is simply that Ron doesn't show up in Network Places,
until you manually do "\\Ron", at which time it opens up in the pop-up window,
then mysteriously shows up in Network Places?

How long can you see Ron in Network Places after that? When does this stop
working?

If you do this from Pavilion, how about you check Network Places on Claudette,
and see what shows? Vice versa?

Let's look at browstat information for each computer, again.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command
window - Open Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!, Open
c:\browstat.txt, copy and paste into your next post.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Guest]

Chuck-
Sorry again for the delay -- my daughter called from San Francisco, and
wanted to talk about a job. She just graduated from the CIA cooking school
in NY and is just now getting around to going to work.

But back to my problem(s):

When I type \\ron on either of the B (pavilion) or C (claudette) computers,
a window pops up with the shared files from computer A (ron). The window is
kind of funny -- it is a cross between a Windows Explorer window and an
Internet Explorer window. It has the looks of Windows Explorer with Back,
Forward, Search, Folders, Views and the Menu options look the same, and it
also has a Left pane that alternates/toggles between folders and text like
Network Tasks, Other Places, etc. -- but it also has the Internet Explorer
things like the line of Links, but no Home, Refresh, Stop, etc.

When you click on the Folders icon, you get folders in the left pane, the
folders look and act just like the Windows Explorer folders list, with
Network Places and everything else. This is the "only" place that the Ron
computer icon appears, with the Shared Ron files under the icon. Almost
exactly what you see under pavilion or claudette, except that the name of the
computer is the Ron "Computer description" followed by the "(ron)" -- see
previous post.

Again, this is the only window it shows up in. Ron doesn't appear in other
Windows Explorer windows on the same computer and if you bring up another
Windows Explorer, it doesn't appear there either -- nor does it appear on the
other computer. Both computers, pavilion or claudette, work the same --
\\ron brings up the Ron computer folders in a new window, but only there.

However, there "is" access to the Ron computer, beyond just the Folders that
appear under the Ron computer icon (in Network Places). When I click on the
Shared Docs->Shared Pictures->Sample Pictures under the Ron icon -- I can see
a sample picture that I renamed on the Ron computer.

Following are the recent Browstat runs:

Browstat on Computer A (ron)
--------------------------------------
Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{813B86EA-F666-4FA6-A7A4-F43458710402}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\CLAUDETTE
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\CLAUDETTE . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master CLAUDETTE
\\CLAUDETTE
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{813B86EA-F666-4FA6-A7A4-F43458710402}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{813B86EA-F666-4FA6-A7A4-F43458710402}


Browstat on Computer B (pavilion)
-------------------------------------------
Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\CLAUDETTE
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\CLAUDETTE . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master CLAUDETTE
\\CLAUDETTE
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}


Browstat on Computer C (claudette)
--------------------------------------------
Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: CLAUDETTE
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master CLAUDETTE
\\CLAUDETTE
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}

 

[Chuck]

Chuck-
Sorry again for the delay -- my daughter called from San Francisco, and
wanted to talk about a job. She just graduated from the CIA cooking school
in NY and is just now getting around to going to work.

But back to my problem(s):

When I type \\ron on either of the B (pavilion) or C (claudette) computers,
a window pops up with the shared files from computer A (ron). The window is
kind of funny -- it is a cross between a Windows Explorer window and an
Internet Explorer window. It has the looks of Windows Explorer with Back,
Forward, Search, Folders, Views and the Menu options look the same, and it
also has a Left pane that alternates/toggles between folders and text like
Network Tasks, Other Places, etc. -- but it also has the Internet Explorer
things like the line of Links, but no Home, Refresh, Stop, etc.

When you click on the Folders icon, you get folders in the left pane, the
folders look and act just like the Windows Explorer folders list, with
Network Places and everything else. This is the "only" place that the Ron
computer icon appears, with the Shared Ron files under the icon. Almost
exactly what you see under pavilion or claudette, except that the name of the
computer is the Ron "Computer description" followed by the "(ron)" -- see
previous post.

Again, this is the only window it shows up in. Ron doesn't appear in other
Windows Explorer windows on the same computer and if you bring up another
Windows Explorer, it doesn't appear there either -- nor does it appear on the
other computer. Both computers, pavilion or claudette, work the same --
\\ron brings up the Ron computer folders in a new window, but only there.

However, there "is" access to the Ron computer, beyond just the Folders that
appear under the Ron computer icon (in Network Places). When I click on the
Shared Docs->Shared Pictures->Sample Pictures under the Ron icon -- I can see
a sample picture that I renamed on the Ron computer.

Following are the recent Browstat runs:

Browstat on Computer A (ron)
--------------------------------------
Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{813B86EA-F666-4FA6-A7A4-F43458710402}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\CLAUDETTE
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\CLAUDETTE . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master CLAUDETTE
\\CLAUDETTE
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{813B86EA-F666-4FA6-A7A4-F43458710402}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{813B86EA-F666-4FA6-A7A4-F43458710402}


Browstat on Computer B (pavilion)
-------------------------------------------
Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\CLAUDETTE
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\CLAUDETTE . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master CLAUDETTE
\\CLAUDETTE
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{3F2DCAAD-DF3F-4F44-B920-FB44E017DEFD}


Browstat on Computer C (claudette)
--------------------------------------------
Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: CLAUDETTE
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master CLAUDETTE
\\CLAUDETTE
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{055EF24E-58C0-4E29-9889-94BD958371C3}

Ron,

OK, we're getting close to the point where we need to do more direct
communication, and send files back and forth. We can't do binaries in the group
either.

My email address is below (please don't state it here, just email me). If you
wish, you can IM me - I have both MSN Messenger and Yahoo IM accounts.

When you do "\\ron", is claudette and pavilion in the folder tree anywhere near
ron? What if you do "\\pavilion" from Ron and Claudette? What workgroup are
the three computers in?

I see that Claudette has now elected itself a master browser, so it isn't seeing
the other 2 computers, or wasn't when browstat was run. What shows up in
Network Places on Claudette?

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Guest]

Chuck,

When I do \\ron on either the pavilion or claudette, a new window pops up
with the Ron computer in it. Sorry about the babling over the hybrid
Windows/Internet Explorer window in my earlier post -- the window poping up
is a Windows Explorer window, it just had a different View set up.

OK, back to what I see. On pavilion or claudette, I see a normal folder
tree, with all 3 computers showing up under the Windows default Workgroup
name of Mshome (told you I didn't change much). All three computers are
there just as you/I would want them to be. On both computers, I see
Claudette, Pavilion and Ron, and I see the shared folders underneath. The
only difference in the folder tree is that the Ron computer had the long
Computer description name from Ron on it, instead of just Ron.

When I Run //pavilion on claudette, I just get the Window Explorer with
Claudette and Pavilion in the folder tree -- and if I just do //claudette on
the pavilion, I also just get the Windows Explorer with Claudette and
Pavilion in the folder tree. These are the same results as if I just brought
up Windows Explorer. And repeating, if I do the \\ron on either of these
computers, I get all 3 computers in the folder tree.

On Ron, Running either \\pavilion or \\claudette, the Windows Explorer comes
up with both Claudette and Pavilion in the folder tree -- just as if I had
brought up Windows Explorer. When I Ran \\ron on Ron, the window just pops
up with all 3 computers in it, just as it acts on the other 2 computers. And
the Ron computer is labeled as the other computers -- with the Computer
description on Ron instead of just Ron -- otherwise everything else is
working as on the other computers.

I do have a problem updating the Claudette folder tree -- sometimes long
pauses and occasionally an "access not available" error message, but I can
click it again and it eventually comes back, after a long pause. That only
happens with Claudette -- which I attribute to the flakey wireless connection
that I have. The same happens on the //pavilion computer, and on the
claudette computer, I also see delays when looking at pavilion or ron, also
attributed to the wireless connection. Updates between Ron and Pavilion, the
wired guys, are very fast. If I got is right, pm on its way.
--
Ron

 

[Guest]

Chuck,

As a quick follow-up -- when I Run the \\ron command on any of the
computers, the Windows Explorer window comes up with Ron added to the
workgroup (MSHOME) folder list -- and Ron "only" appears in that window. It
doesn't magically appear in any other open Windows Explorer windows and if I
bring up a new Windows Explorer window, Ron isn't there either. But it does
stay firmly in the one window brought up by the //ron command, and behaves
like any of the other computer folders under the Mshome workgroup.

As another quick note, I don't know how close we are on this, and I really
appreciate all of the work you have put in on this. I don't do a lot of file
sharing (just doing a lot now because of trying to move files to the new
computer), so the solution you have given me is quite acceptable as a
workaround (as long as that operation continues to work). So I will leave it
up to you as to how much time you want to expend on this problem. I am in
for the duration and would like to understand what is happening here -- and
so would like to continue this to the end, if we are getting close -- but
will not be upset if you want to bail out. You have done a teriffic job in
getting me to this point.

 

[Guest]

I had a similar problem would you mind telling me all virus protection and
firewall software you have on the computer that files cannot be seen? Let me
know whetehr they enabled or disabled too.