Cannot connect to web with Client

[Guest]

Hello everybody,

I have two compters connected with a cross over cable.

Computer 1 (the host) has 2 Ethernet cards one going to internet(DSL
modem)(external). And one going to the other computer thru a cross over cable.

Computer 2 has `1 Ethernet card (that I am using) connected to the other end
of the crossover cable.

The file sharing works on both computers.

I can access the web on the host but not the client.

The bottom task bar on both computers shows a yellow '!' in the network
adapter.

Both computers are running windows XP.

I've been thru the wizzars help files a hundred times and cannot get anywhere.

At one time (going through the help files) I found a detailed way of reading
both the client and host IP Address, Subnet Mask and Default Gateway. It
said to write this stuff down and then how to change them to fit together. It
had a chart to show
how to do this. I lost that page and for the life of me I can't find it again.

I believe this may be my problem.

Any help appreciated,

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Hello everybody,

I have two compters connected with a cross over cable.

Computer 1 (the host) has 2 Ethernet cards one going to internet(DSL
modem)(external). And one going to the other computer thru a cross over cable.

Computer 2 has `1 Ethernet card (that I am using) connected to the other end
of the crossover cable.

The file sharing works on both computers.

I can access the web on the host but not the client.

The bottom task bar on both computers shows a yellow '!' in the network
adapter.

Both computers are running windows XP.

I've been thru the wizzars help files a hundred times and cannot get anywhere.

At one time (going through the help files) I found a detailed way of reading
both the client and host IP Address, Subnet Mask and Default Gateway. It
said to write this stuff down and then how to change them to fit together. It
had a chart to show
how to do this. I lost that page and for the life of me I can't find it again.

I believe this may be my problem.

Any help appreciated,

Make sure that Internet Connection Sharing is enabled on the host:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click the connection that goes to the DSL modem.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click Advanced.
5. Put a check mark in the box "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection."
6. If there's a box to select a home networking connection, select the
one that connects to the client computer.
7. Click OK.

To see a network connection's TCP/IP configuration:

1. Right-click the connection.
2. Click Status.
3. Click Support.
4. Click Details.
--
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

Make sure that Internet Connection Sharing is enabled on the host:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right-click the connection that goes to the DSL modem.
3. Click Properties.
4. Click Advanced.
5. Put a check mark in the box "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection."
6. If there's a box to select a home networking connection, select the
one that connects to the client computer.
7. Click OK.

To see a network connection's TCP/IP configuration:

1. Right-click the connection.
2. Click Status.
3. Click Support.
4. Click Details.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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Thank you Steve,

I did as you said however when I click "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection." (on the host).
I no longer can connect to the internet on the host or anyhere.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Thank you Steve,

I did as you said however when I click "Allow other network users to connect
through this computer's Internet connection." (on the host).
I no longer can connect to the internet on the host or anyhere.

You're welcome, Don. I suspect that you're sharing the wrong network
connection. Make sure that you're sharing the one that connects to
the DSL modem, not the one that connects to the other computer.
--
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Sorry I connected with the internet card. Still can't access web on client.
I have one Ethenet wire comming from modem to host. And one Ethernet wire
going from host to Client. Is this all I need,?

When I click the share botton on host/internet card I can no long access web
with host.

Sharing the host's Internet connection should have no effect on the
host's web access.

Please post a news group reply showing the hosts's TCP/IP
configuration with sharing not enabled. To write the TCP/IP
configuration to a file, open a command prompt window (Start > Run >
cmd) and enter this line:

ipconfig /all >ipconfig.txt

Then copy/paste the contents of the "ipconfig.txt" file into your
reply.
--
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Sharing the host's Internet connection should have no effect on the
host's web access.

After I posted this message, I thought of a case where sharing the
host's Internet connection could prevent the host from accessing the
Internet.

Internet Connection Sharing assigns IP addresses in the 192.168.0.x
range to the LAN connections on the host and client. If the
connection to your DSL modem already has a 192.168.0.x address,
enabling ICS will cause web access problems on the host.

If that's what has happened, then I suspect that you have a
combination DSL modem / router, not just a DSL modem. Examples of
such devices are the Actiontec gateways used with Qwest DSL. What is
the make and model of your device?

With a combination DSL modem / router, you don't need to use Internet
Connection Sharing or to have a host vs. client computer. If the
router has multiple Ethernet ports, connect each computer directly to
the router. If the router has only one Ethernet port, get a wired
network switch, and connect the router and both computers to ports on
the switch.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Guest]

O.k. everything you asked for (I hope),

----------------------------host computer--------------------

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : nob-e1b1628de74

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
Ethernet NIC #2

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-83-F9-D3

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 69.228.208.156

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 69.228.208.155

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

192.168.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, December 29, 2006
7:25:03 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, December 29, 2006
7:35:03 PM



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-7C-84-AC

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.235.183

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :


-------------------Client computer-------------------

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : nob-a4568fa758b

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For
Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX) #2

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-30-30-6A



Ethernet adapter Local Area (inter) 2:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys NC100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-78-04-28-50

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.244.89

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 69.228.212.195

-------------------my DSL modem---------------
Siemens
speedStream 4100
It only has one output ethernet port to go to the computer.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

O.k. everything you asked for (I hope),

----------------------------host computer--------------------

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : nob-e1b1628de74
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-83-F9-D3
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 69.228.208.156
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 69.228.208.155
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, December 29, 2006 7:25:03 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, December 29, 2006 7:35:03 PM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-7C-84-AC
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.235.183
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :


-------------------Client computer-------------------

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : nob-a4568fa758b
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX) #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-30-30-6A

Ethernet adapter Local Area (inter) 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys NC100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-78-04-28-50
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.244.89
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 69.228.212.195

-------------------my DSL modem---------------
Siemens
speedStream 4100
It only has one output ethernet port to go to the computer.

Thanks for posting the output that I requested. It shows the problem,
which is a variation of what I thought we'd see.

The host computer's "Local Area Connection" shows 192.168.0.1 as the
address of its DHCP Server and DNS Server. That conflicts with ICS,
which assigns the same address to the home network connection.

I'd expect the DHCP Server and DNS Server addresses to be 69.228.x.x,
like the IP Address and the Default Gateway. The DSL modem and/or
Pacbell is giving you an unusual setup.

I see another unusual thing: the client's "Local Area (inter) 2" shows
an address for the Default Gateway. Since DHCP is enabled on the
client, it shouldn't have a Default Gateway specified. Open that
connection's TCP/IP properties and remove the Default Gateway
specification.

Here are two possible solutions:

1. Consult with Pacbell and see if the DHCP Server and DNS Server
addresses can be changed to a different subnet. That will let you use
ICS on the host computer.

or:

2. Get a broadband router, connect the DSL modem to the router's WAN
(Internet) port, and connect the computers to the router's LAN ports.
The router will give Internet access to both computers, with no need
to enable ICS. If the router uses 192.168.0.x for its LAN address,
you'll have to change it to another range, such as 192.168.1.x. Many
D-Link and Netgear routers use 192.168.0.x. Linksys and Belkin
routers typically use a different range.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
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[Guest]

Thanks for posting the output that I requested. It shows the problem,
which is a variation of what I thought we'd see.

The host computer's "Local Area Connection" shows 192.168.0.1 as the
address of its DHCP Server and DNS Server. That conflicts with ICS,
which assigns the same address to the home network connection.

I'd expect the DHCP Server and DNS Server addresses to be 69.228.x.x,
like the IP Address and the Default Gateway. The DSL modem and/or
Pacbell is giving you an unusual setup.

I see another unusual thing: the client's "Local Area (inter) 2" shows
an address for the Default Gateway. Since DHCP is enabled on the
client, it shouldn't have a Default Gateway specified. Open that
connection's TCP/IP properties and remove the Default Gateway
specification.

Here are two possible solutions:

1. Consult with Pacbell and see if the DHCP Server and DNS Server
addresses can be changed to a different subnet. That will let you use
ICS on the host computer.

or:

2. Get a broadband router, connect the DSL modem to the router's WAN
(Internet) port, and connect the computers to the router's LAN ports.
The router will give Internet access to both computers, with no need
to enable ICS. If the router uses 192.168.0.x for its LAN address,
you'll have to change it to another range, such as 192.168.1.x. Many
D-Link and Netgear routers use 192.168.0.x. Linksys and Belkin
routers typically use a different range.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Hello again Steve.

Again thanks for the help.

You suggested contacting Pacbell. Can't I just change these addresses myself
(DHCP Services, DNS Services) or does Pacbell have to do it?

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

[snip>
Here are two possible solutions:

1. Consult with Pacbell and see if the DHCP Server and DNS Server
addresses can be changed to a different subnet. That will let you use
ICS on the host computer.

or:

2. Get a broadband router, connect the DSL modem to the router's WAN
(Internet) port, and connect the computers to the router's LAN ports.
The router will give Internet access to both computers, with no need
to enable ICS. If the router uses 192.168.0.x for its LAN address,
you'll have to change it to another range, such as 192.168.1.x. Many
D-Link and Netgear routers use 192.168.0.x. Linksys and Belkin
routers typically use a different range.

Hello again Steve.

Again thanks for the help.

You suggested contacting Pacbell. Can't I just change these addresses myself
(DHCP Services, DNS Services) or does Pacbell have to do it?

Hi, Don. I don't know how to change the addresses or what you can
change them to. I'd say to consult with Pacbell if that's the
solution that you want to pursue.

I think that getting a broadband router would be a better solution in
the long run.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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