can XP run from a usb external IDE?

[no.top.post]

I don't use Micro$loth win, but when I last bought a
80 GB IDE, I asked the vendor to put W98 on the
first 1 GB partition. And later I was able use it to
connect via my friends Fixed-Wireless-Terminal.
But when I bought my own FWT, it had the new
usb "Zero-CD" system, which needs XP or later.

I refuse to pay for Micro$loth crap !!

Now a "Seagate 3.5" 1TB expansion hard drive ..
plug-n-play...USB 2.0..." could be usefull,
provided it's not just a flash-mem and it can
be asscessed by standard USB, for linux too.

So, even if it's slow, if I asked the vendor
to install XP on the first 4GB, could I access
the FWT via XP using my non-M$-PCs?

I.e. can XP be moved between PCs via
a usb-IDE?

== TIA.

 

[GT]

I don't use Micro$loth win, but when I last bought a
80 GB IDE, I asked the vendor to put W98 on the
first 1 GB partition. And later I was able use it to
connect via my friends Fixed-Wireless-Terminal.
But when I bought my own FWT, it had the new
usb "Zero-CD" system, which needs XP or later.

I refuse to pay for Micro$loth crap !!

Now a "Seagate 3.5" 1TB expansion hard drive ..
plug-n-play...USB 2.0..." could be usefull,
provided it's not just a flash-mem and it can
be asscessed by standard USB, for linux too.

So, even if it's slow, if I asked the vendor
to install XP on the first 4GB, could I access
the FWT via XP using my non-M$-PCs?

I.e. can XP be moved between PCs via
a usb-IDE?

Setting up a USB drive as a boot drive is perfectly fine, but Windows XP
installs drivers and configures itself to suite the hardware in a particular
machine, so switching an XP USB boot drive between PCs is highly unlikely to
work. Why not use Ubuntu or similar?

 

[David W. Hodgins]

But when I bought my own FWT, it had the new
usb "Zero-CD" system, which needs XP or later.

To access that in linux, install the usb_modeswitch package.
If it doesn't automatically recognize the device, you can
manually try the usb_modeswitch command. See it's man page.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

 

[Sjouke Burry]

I don't use Micro$loth win, but when I last bought a
80 GB IDE, I asked the vendor to put W98 on the
first 1 GB partition. And later I was able use it to
connect via my friends Fixed-Wireless-Terminal.
But when I bought my own FWT, it had the new
usb "Zero-CD" system, which needs XP or later.

I refuse to pay for Micro$loth crap !!

Now a "Seagate 3.5" 1TB expansion hard drive ..
plug-n-play...USB 2.0..." could be usefull,
provided it's not just a flash-mem and it can
be asscessed by standard USB, for linux too.

So, even if it's slow, if I asked the vendor
to install XP on the first 4GB, could I access
the FWT via XP using my non-M$-PCs?

I.e. can XP be moved between PCs via
a usb-IDE?

== TIA.

Moving xp between pc's is a bad idea, unless they are the same in all
hardware(type/version, etc).
Fresh install is a better idea, but you need the installdisks/info.

 

[philo]

Setting up a USB drive as a boot drive is perfectly fine, but Windows XP
installs drivers and configures itself to suite the hardware in a particular
machine, so switching an XP USB boot drive between PCs is highly unlikely to
work. Why not use Ubuntu or similar?

NO! that is absolutely NOT true

XP needs to be seriously hacked to get it to run from and external USB
drive...there's info on how to do it on Google but it's complicated and
it runs quite poorly anyway

 

[no.top.post]

Setting up a USB drive as a boot drive is perfectly fine, but Windows XP
installs drivers and configures itself to suite the hardware in a particular
machine, so switching an XP USB boot drive between PCs is highly unlikely to
work. Why not use Ubuntu or similar?

How can I use Ubuntu, didn't you read that the
device is designed only for M$ ?

And consider: if I make a device that's Zero-CD,
then the 'modem' can have a secret/non-standard
proptocol, because *my* simulated-CD provides
the driver code to the PC. I.e. my device and
your M$-PC communicate in my secret protocol.

 

[JTF]

I don't use Micro$loth win, but when I last bought a
80 GB IDE, I asked the vendor to put W98 on the
first 1 GB partition. And later I was able use it to
connect via my friends Fixed-Wireless-Terminal.
But when I bought my own FWT, it had the new
usb "Zero-CD" system, which needs XP or later.

I refuse to pay for Micro$loth crap !!

Now a "Seagate 3.5" 1TB expansion hard drive ..
plug-n-play...USB 2.0..."  could be usefull,
provided it's not just a flash-mem and it can
be asscessed by standard USB, for linux too.

So, even if it's slow, if I asked the vendor
to install XP on the first 4GB, could I access
the FWT via XP using my non-M$-PCs?

I.e. can XP be moved between PCs via
a usb-IDE?

== TIA.

If you download and install VirtualBox, you can run any OS (even MAC
OSX Server) as a virtual machine and not effect your operations. The
disk image and settings can be kept on an external storage device if
you wish, it just must be accessible in the same exact place as
specified in your VM configuration when you try to start the virtual
machine..

 

[GT]

How can I use Ubuntu, didn't you read that the
device is designed only for M$ ?

No I didn't see that in your post and reading the above, I still don't see
it! This is probably due to the fact that a USB device is *universal* by
definition - Universal Serial Bus - an external USB hard drive is not
specific to microsoft operating systems!!

 

[GT]

NO! that is absolutely NOT true

XP needs to be seriously hacked to get it to run

So your 'absolutely NOT true' outburst is a little over the top then!

 

[David W. Hodgins]

How can I use Ubuntu, didn't you read that the
device is designed only for M$ ?

The device will work in linux, if usb_modeswitch is installed,
and the underlying device works.

And consider: if I make a device that's Zero-CD,
then the 'modem' can have a secret/non-standard
proptocol, because *my* simulated-CD provides
the driver code to the PC. I.e. my device and
your M$-PC communicate in my secret protocol.

If that's the case, then it will not work in linux, or in
any version of windows the author doesn't support.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

 

[GMAN]

NO! that is absolutely NOT true

XP needs to be seriously hacked to get it to run from and external USB
drive...there's info on how to do it on Google but it's complicated and
it runs quite poorly anyway

While you are correct that it runs slower than on a internal PC, i managed
without issue to install XP Pro with SP2 onto a Western Digital Elements 2TB
external USB drive!!! Of cours i cannot take it around and use it on other
machines but as a curiosity, it installed and ran fine.

 

[mm]

I don't use Micro$loth win, but when I last bought a
80 GB IDE, I asked the vendor to put W98 on the
first 1 GB partition. And later I was able use it to
connect via my friends Fixed-Wireless-Terminal.
But when I bought my own FWT, it had the new
usb "Zero-CD" system, which needs XP or later.

I refuse to pay for Micro$loth crap !!

Now a "Seagate 3.5" 1TB expansion hard drive ..
plug-n-play...USB 2.0..." could be usefull,
provided it's not just a flash-mem and it can
be asscessed by standard USB, for linux too.

So, even if it's slow, if I asked the vendor
to install XP on the first 4GB, could I access
the FWT via XP using my non-M$-PCs?

I.e. can XP be moved between PCs via
a usb-IDE?

== TIA.

Can't answer this question, but it's worth noting that one Dell
computer I had didn't list USB as a boot option, either in the BIOS or
in the "Boot sequence this time" option. But did work for the second
option if the USB device was plugged in at the time.

 

[Michael Black]

Can't answer this question, but it's worth noting that one Dell
computer I had didn't list USB as a boot option, either in the BIOS or
in the "Boot sequence this time" option. But did work for the second
option if the USB device was plugged in at the time.

I noticed the same thing with my Aspire One netbook. I was very
disappointed to find it wouldn't boot from USB, then surprised to find
the ability appeared when I had something plugged into a USB port.

Michael

 

[philo]

While you are correct that it runs slower than on a internal PC, i managed
without issue to install XP Pro with SP2 onto a Western Digital Elements 2TB
external USB drive!!! Of cours i cannot take it around and use it on other
machines but as a curiosity, it installed and ran fine.

you cannot install XP on a USB drive unless it's hacked
here are instructions

http://www.ehow.com/how_4853554_install-xp-external-hard-drive.html


You of course can install XP on an external SATA drive

other than the power source there is functionally no difference

 

[mm]

I noticed the same thing with my Aspire One netbook. I was very
disappointed to find it wouldn't boot from USB, then surprised to find
the ability appeared when I had something plugged into a USB port.

They actually say that is how it works in the Dell owners manual for
my machine. (but only in the second reference to the subject. OTOH,
the manual is not that long.) But I only read the manual that
closely when I was googling for hyper-threading.

OTOH, it seems to clearly to say that the computer has
hyper-threading, yet it also says if you go to device manager and
display the cpu's, there will be two if it has hyper-threading. So
it's not the greatest manual.

 

[GT]

They actually say that is how it works in the Dell owners manual for
my machine. (but only in the second reference to the subject. OTOH,
the manual is not that long.) But I only read the manual that
closely when I was googling for hyper-threading.

OTOH, it seems to clearly to say that the computer has
hyper-threading, yet it also says if you go to device manager and
display the cpu's, there will be two if it has hyper-threading. So
it's not the greatest manual.

Hyperthreading will only be seen in an operating system if you have it
turned on in the BIOS.