Can Canon i960 print 4x6 matte?

[David Hersh]

When I recently bought my i960, the salesperson at Best Buy sold me HP
Premium Plus 4x6 matte photo paper, saying that they were out of the
Canon paper and that the HP would work fine.

The photos I initially printed on the sample glossy paper that came
with the printer were great, but I have had zero luck getting a half
decent printout on this matte paper. People's skin in the photos looks
like it's cracked or lizard-like.

When I try to print using Canon's Easy PhotoPrint, matte paper isn't
even listed as an option for 4x6. When printing through the OS, I can
select matte and 4x6, but the results are the same. Seriously crappy
photos.

Did the salesman misslead me? Does the i960 not support matte printing
for 4x6?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Information]

Did you use the matte media type?


: When I recently bought my i960, the salesperson at Best Buy sold me HP
: Premium Plus 4x6 matte photo paper, saying that they were out of the
: Canon paper and that the HP would work fine.
:
: The photos I initially printed on the sample glossy paper that came
: with the printer were great, but I have had zero luck getting a half
: decent printout on this matte paper. People's skin in the photos looks
: like it's cracked or lizard-like.
:
: When I try to print using Canon's Easy PhotoPrint, matte paper isn't
: even listed as an option for 4x6. When printing through the OS, I can
: select matte and 4x6, but the results are the same. Seriously crappy
: photos.
:
: Did the salesman misslead me? Does the i960 not support matte printing
: for 4x6?
:
: Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Ray R]

cracked look means too much ink for the paper. Canon i960
does an excellent job on 4x6 paper. The printer is fussy
about the paper types it will do a good job on. I have
had good luck with Canon, Epson, Office Depot, and
Konica. I do not like HP, Kodak, Office Max, and many others.

 

[Information]

I get great results with Kodak

GO figure

I do agree about the fussiness of this machine with paper Once I found
settings on the Kodak site to use for both their Ultima and Premium picture
paper,I have been a happy camper. I look for the sales for the Canon paper
( usually at CompUSA ) and now only using those two brands.

It appears to be in the settings and the selection of paper media


: cracked look means too much ink for the paper. Canon i960
: does an excellent job on 4x6 paper. The printer is fussy
: about the paper types it will do a good job on. I have
: had good luck with Canon, Epson, Office Depot, and
: Konica. I do not like HP, Kodak, Office Max, and many others.
:
: : > When I recently bought my i960, the salesperson at Best Buy sold me HP
: > Premium Plus 4x6 matte photo paper, saying that they were out of the
: > Canon paper and that the HP would work fine.
: >
: > The photos I initially printed on the sample glossy paper that came
: > with the printer were great, but I have had zero luck getting a half
: > decent printout on this matte paper. People's skin in the photos looks
: > like it's cracked or lizard-like.
: >
: > When I try to print using Canon's Easy PhotoPrint, matte paper isn't
: > even listed as an option for 4x6. When printing through the OS, I can
: > select matte and 4x6, but the results are the same. Seriously crappy
: > photos.
: >
: > Did the salesman misslead me? Does the i960 not support matte printing
: > for 4x6?
: >
: > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
:
:

 

[beezer]

I get great results with Kodak

GO figure

I do agree about the fussiness of this machine with paper Once I found
settings on the Kodak site to use for both their Ultima and Premium picture
paper,I have been a happy camper. I look for the sales for the Canon paper
( usually at CompUSA ) and now only using those two brands.

It appears to be in the settings and the selection of paper media

Ill have to check that out. I have a bunch of Ultima I was going to
toss because I had no luck with the I850. Ill check out the site for
the 960 settings

I have 100 sheets of redriver paper that works great on just about
anything. They even offer color profiles for the 960 as well. Very
inexpensive as compared to store bought papers

 

[Information]

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=1963&pq-locale=en_US

site for printer settings


: On Thu, 6 May 2004 08:02:32 -0700, "Information"
:
: >
: >I get great results with Kodak
: >
: >GO figure
: >
: >I do agree about the fussiness of this machine with paper Once I found
: >settings on the Kodak site to use for both their Ultima and Premium
picture
: >paper,I have been a happy camper. I look for the sales for the Canon
paper
: >( usually at CompUSA ) and now only using those two brands.
: >
: >It appears to be in the settings and the selection of paper media
:
:
: Ill have to check that out. I have a bunch of Ultima I was going to
: toss because I had no luck with the I850. Ill check out the site for
: the 960 settings
:
: I have 100 sheets of redriver paper that works great on just about
: anything. They even offer color profiles for the 960 as well. Very
: inexpensive as compared to store bought papers

 

[BF]

I have 100 sheets of redriver paper that works great on just about
anything. They even offer color profiles for the 960 as well. Very
inexpensive as compared to store bought papers

I too use Red River paper. It is comparable with Canon paper pro. 100
sheets for about $35.00. My second package of 100 sheets will arrive
tomorrow.

 

[BF]

I too use Red River paper. It is comparable with Canon paper pro. 100
sheets for about $35.00. My second package of 100 sheets will arrive
tomorrow.

That's 100 sheets of 8.5 X 11

 

[beezer]

That's 100 sheets of 8.5 X 11

Yep, I use the glossy and satin pro. I ordered the 100 sheet of satin
and I split the 100 sheet gloss with a buddy. Great stuff and its just
as good as canon and better than any other substitute ive tried. The
satin is really nice for 8x10 prints. I love the sheen.

I recently asked if anyone ever tried a spray coating on their prints
but no replies. I was curious of its details. Im sure it would add a
nice lustre and sheen to the prints.

Ive seen it around for about 6 bux a can but never ordered any. I
wanted some opions of it first. It looks interesting.

 

[B. Peg]

I've used the Marshall's spray (lustre and satin) with success. Protects the
image and an $11 can goes a long way. Got mine from Freestyle in Hollywood
who also carries quite a line of inkjet papers at good prices (Tetenal,
Mitsubishi, Ilford, etc.). Still, I believe Canon's is the glossiest out
there. The Ilford Lustre (pebble surface) is a nice paper too.

B~

 

[beezer]

I've used the Marshall's spray (lustre and satin) with success. Protects the
image and an $11 can goes a long way. Got mine from Freestyle in Hollywood
who also carries quite a line of inkjet papers at good prices (Tetenal,
Mitsubishi, Ilford, etc.). Still, I believe Canon's is the glossiest out
there. The Ilford Lustre (pebble surface) is a nice paper too.

B~

Great.. So would you say the spray coating is worth the effort and
added enhancement to the appearance?

Im sure you do not use it for every photo but for something you would
frame perhaps...

Have you also tried redriverpaper? I find their papers just as glossy
and as good as canon papers.

thanks for the reply

 

[B. Peg]

Never tried the RedRiver brand. The salesperson at Freestyle said they do
sell a house paper (Arista??) that is similar to Canon's gloss but I haven't
tried it. They used to have a large binder with all the different papers
and prints displayed in it. Now they are hanging prints over the areas
where each particular brand is sold. I think I bought 5-6 different brands.
Just haven't gotten around to using all of them side-by-side. Some of the
papers, although high gloss, have a distinct color cast in the whites
bordering on blue to gray.

I use the spray whenever I 'think' the print is going to get handled roughly
or maybe stick to something (glass). It dries quick, maybe 6-7 minutes,
although I'm sure longer would be better. They also had some spray lacquers
for inkjets as well but never tried any of them since my old experience with
lacquers was they were a bit yellowish. The spray does seem to add a little
more contrast to the print. It helps to knock off that "ink-jet cast/halo"
when you look at a print from the side. Seems to make it more like a
silver-type photograph. I also use it on the canvas-cloth inkjet prints
(from CompUSA and Office Max) to protect them. Never had ink run using it.

Okay. I went and got the can. It's called "Inkjet Fix" by Gepe distributed
by HP Marketing, NJ. Quote from can: "An easy-to-use protection spray with
UV inhibitors. Helps preserve inkjet prints and protects against fading,
smudging, and moisture. In gloss, semi-gloss, and matte." My can says
"Gloss-Lustre."

B~

 

[beezer]

Never tried the RedRiver brand. The salesperson at Freestyle said they do
sell a house paper (Arista??) that is similar to Canon's gloss but I haven't
tried it. They used to have a large binder with all the different papers
and prints displayed in it. Now they are hanging prints over the areas
where each particular brand is sold. I think I bought 5-6 different brands.
Just haven't gotten around to using all of them side-by-side. Some of the
papers, although high gloss, have a distinct color cast in the whites
bordering on blue to gray.

I use the spray whenever I 'think' the print is going to get handled roughly
or maybe stick to something (glass). It dries quick, maybe 6-7 minutes,
although I'm sure longer would be better. They also had some spray lacquers
for inkjets as well but never tried any of them since my old experience with
lacquers was they were a bit yellowish. The spray does seem to add a little
more contrast to the print. It helps to knock off that "ink-jet cast/halo"
when you look at a print from the side. Seems to make it more like a
silver-type photograph. I also use it on the canvas-cloth inkjet prints
(from CompUSA and Office Max) to protect them. Never had ink run using it.

Okay. I went and got the can. It's called "Inkjet Fix" by Gepe distributed
by HP Marketing, NJ. Quote from can: "An easy-to-use protection spray with
UV inhibitors. Helps preserve inkjet prints and protects against fading,
smudging, and moisture. In gloss, semi-gloss, and matte." My can says
"Gloss-Lustre."

B~

Great, Thank you for the information.
I end up ordering a couple cans of the krylon as I did not see the
post about "Inkjet Fix" prior to that. But I think the Krylon will do
the little bit I was looking for.

I was wanting just a little something to put a slight sheen and
little added richness to the paper finish such as a lab appearance or
for better term a "wet look"

Ive tried all kinds of papers as well and even the Canon Pro has that
"halo" look as you call it.. But redriverpaper is fantastic. I use
that along with refill inks from alotofthings.com Ive done
extensive test on proofing paper as well test prints with canon and
redriver. As picky as I am, I could not find a difference in any
combination of inks and papers.

Ive done a full tank of each type of ink and many many sheets of paper
for my own tests which im quite satisfied with the paper and ink I end
up with. Economically , no one can beat it.

 

[Ron Baird]

Greetings Beezer,

To make it easy, Beezer, try using the EasyShare Software. It incorporates
the One Touch feature for Inkjet and when you call up an image, you can
apply the changes to the driver automatically, by selecting the paper you
have and in the 'Setup' button. You can, of course, use an alternative
software such as Photoshop and apply the settings noted on our website.

http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet

On that page look to the left to find the link to 'Settings.'

Enjoy, let me know if there are questions.

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

 

[beezer]

Greetings Beezer,

To make it easy, Beezer, try using the EasyShare Software. It incorporates
the One Touch feature for Inkjet and when you call up an image, you can
apply the changes to the driver automatically, by selecting the paper you
have and in the 'Setup' button. You can, of course, use an alternative
software such as Photoshop and apply the settings noted on our website.

http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet

On that page look to the left to find the link to 'Settings.'

Enjoy, let me know if there are questions.

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

Thanks for the info Ron...
I am not a fan of "Automated" software and all the bells and whistles
these type of programs incorporate. I am an avid photoshop user so
manual settings as well as the ability to save the setting profile in
the canon drivers menu is not a problem.

I did go to the site shortly after my post and I was able to find the
settings that produced "OK" results. Perhaps some more time tweeking
may be needed.

Overall, the prints on that paper , UPP-3-A, just wouldnt be
"frameable" for me or a customer and perhaps not worth the time for me
to persue it to perfection.


Thank you for your reply.