can anyone help with installation of ATI Drivers?

[David Hewitt]

I am getting no where with ATI. I have recently replaced my nVidea 4600ti
card with a Sapphire X800XL AGP and at the moment can only run the card on
'VGASAVE'. Tried installed CAT 5.5 both from hardware wizard where I get the
following message 'there was a problem installing this hardware. Video
Controller (VGA compatible). An error occurred during the installation of
the device. The data is invalid' OR direct from the drivers where I get the
following message 'setup was unable to complete the installation. Try to set
up your display adaptor with a standard VGA driver before running setup'

Can anyone provide some advise on how I can get these installed before I
take the card back to PC World and exchange for nVidea.

I have a P2.4 running on Intel D845GBV motherboard

I have installed, re-installed the ATI drivers. I have installed and
un-installed the existing nVidea drivers. I have tried in SAFE mode and now
at a loss on how to get these drivers in

Really appreciate some expert guidance

Dave

 

[Bratboy]

I am getting no where with ATI. I have recently replaced my nVidea 4600ti
card with a Sapphire X800XL AGP and at the moment can only run the card on
'VGASAVE'. Tried installed CAT 5.5 both from hardware wizard where I get
the following message 'there was a problem installing this hardware. Video
Controller (VGA compatible). An error occurred during the installation of
the device. The data is invalid' OR direct from the drivers where I get the
following message 'setup was unable to complete the installation. Try to
set up your display adaptor with a standard VGA driver before running
setup'

Can anyone provide some advise on how I can get these installed before I
take the card back to PC World and exchange for nVidea.

I have a P2.4 running on Intel D845GBV motherboard

I have installed, re-installed the ATI drivers. I have installed and
un-installed the existing nVidea drivers. I have tried in SAFE mode and
now at a loss on how to get these drivers in

Really appreciate some expert guidance

Dave

My past experience changing over from NV was to have NV card in , change to
vga driver and run add/remove all of the NV stuff, you might need to use a
driver cleaner to get all the lil NV bitsa out then shut down change card
reboot and then do the driver install for ATI

 

[David Hewitt]

Hi 'bratboy' thanks for your quick response. I have already gone through the
process you describe, it seems what ever I do the installation process hits
a brick wall.


I assume 'vgasave' is the same as 'standard vga'?

I have also tried to install via safe mode but still the same.

Any other ideas

Dave

 

[Paul Murphy]

I'm unfamiliar with VGASAVE but certainly if you uninstall all the old NV
software, you should then ensure the machine is using plain vanilla OS
supplied drivers and the simplest way to do this is via VGA mode (or as near
as you can get). Now you mention that you have a Sapphire card yet say
you're getting no-where with ATI - have you tried Sapphires drivers? Many
powered by ATI products differ to Built by ATI products and therefore gain
extra functionality when the correct drivers are used. Sometimes the ATI
provided Catalyst reference drivers are unsuitable and its not guaranteed
they'll work properly with all "Powered by" cards.

Is the card fully plugged in (i.e. any power connector sockets on it are
powered - manual/website should explain this), is an IRQ allocated in the
motherboards BIOS (commonly referred to as IRQ for VGA - Enabled) and
finally, have you tried re-downloading the driver package (in case you got a
corrupt download)? Some ideas to try but of course in the end its your
choice which brand you want to go with.

Paul

 

[David Hewitt]

Paul, The drivers that came with the Sapphire are ATI. I have tried the ones
from the disc and also those downloaded from the ATI web site. I have
installed and card a couple of times and the power lead is connected ok (at
least I assume so). The card is running, though very limited, with the
VGASAVE drivers. You mentioned the motherboard, how do I check the IRQ
setting you refer to. Could the problem be hardware?

I thought I could just unplug my old nVidea card, remove the nVidea
drivers, install the new ATI card and drivers and all would be ok. If you
have any other thoughts they would be much appreciated

Dave

 

[Paul Murphy]

I'm unfamiliar with the Intel D845GBV motherboard so I don't know how to
check that option with it (or even if there is this option in the BIOS).
Your motherboard manual should explain any options available though and how
to get in there and change it. The other hardware related question is
whether the powersupply supplies enough power for the system with its new
card - how many watts is it, what are the other bits in your machine and
have you tried other feed cables for the VGA card (in case its a faulty
connector on the end of one cable).

Paul

 

[David Hewitt]

Paul, the Sapphire card requires a separate power supply. Inside the PC
there already existed a power lead running from the PSU to the hard =
drive.
The lead from the PSU was split two ways, one supplying the hard drive
=
and
the other hanging free. I used the free one to plug into the Sapphire =
card.

The card is functioning under the VGASAVE drivers so I assume the card
=
is
ok. Would it still be necessary to check the IRQ setting on the =
motherboard?
The previous nVidea 4600ti ran fine though it didn't require an
external
power lead.

I am sure the power supply is providing adequate wattage though there
is
nothing visible to show what it is. I would be very surprised if it is
=
below
300W. Do you know if there is an easy way to check?

Appreciate your help. Just a bit frustrating having spent over =A3200 =
and
can't get the card to work

Dave

 

[Julian Richards]

Worth a try with Omega drivers?
--

Julian Richards
computer "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

XP Home
L7S7A2 motherboard
Powercolor 9800 SE 8 pipelines 438/364 with Omega drivers
1 GB RAM
10 GB + 80 GB HDs
CD+DVD/CDRW drives

 

[Paul Murphy]

The simple way to tell the "claimed" wattage of a PSU is to look at all its
faces for a label (perhaps trapped between the case and PSU body). Although
the label may not clearly state its wattage there will usually be at least a
part number and this often gives a clue through inclusion of the wattage
e.g. a TG480-U1 is a 480 Watt PSU. You'll also need to mention the other
parts of the PC apart from just the P4 2.4 and Intel 845 chipset motherboard
if there's something other than the ordinary 1 each of a DVD drive, HDD,
Soundcard, NIC etc. Graphics card power consumption does vary as does the
tolerance of cards to run with less power than ideally needed. I have seen
cases of underpowered cards or those without an IRQ giving errors which
appear to be software related but are in fact a hardware issue. PSUs are
also up there as one of the most common parts to fail in a PC.

Paul

 

[ofn01]

I am getting no where with ATI. I have recently replaced my nVidea 4600ti
card with a Sapphire X800XL AGP and at the moment can only run the card on
'VGASAVE'. Tried installed CAT 5.5 both from hardware wizard where I get the
following message 'there was a problem installing this hardware. Video
Controller (VGA compatible). An error occurred during the installation of
the device. The data is invalid' OR direct from the drivers where I get the
following message 'setup was unable to complete the installation. Try to set
up your display adaptor with a standard VGA driver before running setup'

Can anyone provide some advise on how I can get these installed before I
take the card back to PC World and exchange for nVidea.

I have a P2.4 running on Intel D845GBV motherboard

I have installed, re-installed the ATI drivers. I have installed and
un-installed the existing nVidea drivers. I have tried in SAFE mode and now
at a loss on how to get these drivers in

Really appreciate some expert guidance

Dave

On my old GF2 I used to get the 'Data is invalid' error. It was on a
Windows 2000 machine and basically the error was an obscure one which
was to do with permissions in the registry (Even happens if you're
running as administrator - some permissions are set to read only for a
bizarre reason)

Having a quick search around the web I found how to solve the error
again - and I believe you could try this for yours:

(from here: http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-256959.php)

That error is due to a registry permission
prob Dan (If you use XP)

Go to start/run. Type regedit.

Then go here.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\PCI

Go the entry where it shows that videocard (click
on the [+]'s). When u find it, highlight it, and select
permissions, then tick Full control. Reboot, then
the driver should load with no probs at all.

 

[Lorenzo Sandini]

David,

I have no easy answer to your problem, but a clean windows install once
in a while fixes things and helps getting rid of all the crap that
accumulates over the months.

Backup your important stuff with whatever software/media suits you, and
go for a clean install, that is what I would do.

There is probably nothing wrong with your card, it sounds like a simple
driver problem. Ever used any tweaker program ? It can have created
registry entries that are not removed when you remove the NV drivers,
and keeps you from installing new drivers for the new card.

Lorenzo

 

[ofn01]

I am getting no where with ATI. I have recently replaced my nVidea
4600ti card with a Sapphire X800XL AGP and at the moment can only run
the card on 'VGASAVE'. Tried installed CAT 5.5 both from hardware
wizard where I get the following message 'there was a problem
installing this hardware. Video Controller (VGA compatible). An error
occurred during the installation of the device. The data is invalid'
OR direct from the drivers where I get the following message 'setup
was unable to complete the installation. Try to set up your display
adaptor with a standard VGA driver before running setup'

Can anyone provide some advise on how I can get these installed before
I take the card back to PC World and exchange for nVidea.

I have a P2.4 running on Intel D845GBV motherboard

I have installed, re-installed the ATI drivers. I have installed and
un-installed the existing nVidea drivers. I have tried in SAFE mode
and now at a loss on how to get these drivers in

Really appreciate some expert guidance

Dave

On my old GF2 I used to get the 'Data is invalid' error. It was on a
Windows 2000 machine and basically the error was an obscure one which
was to do with permissions in the registry (Even happens if you're
running as administrator - some permissions are set to read only for a
bizarre reason)

Having a quick search around the web I found how to solve the error
again - and I believe you could try this for yours:

(from here: http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-256959.php)

That error is due to a registry permission
prob Dan (If you use XP)

Go to start/run. Type regedit.

Then go here.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\PCI

Go the entry where it shows that videocard (click
on the [+]'s). When u find it, highlight it, and select
permissions, then tick Full control. Reboot, then
the driver should load with no probs at all.

P.S. I think from memory you're meant to set the permissions to full
control, then do the driver install (setup.exe), THEN reboot the machine
and it should all install fine.

Or it could be that you do the setup.exe for the driver install after
doing an initial reboot after doing the registry changes (if the first
option above does not work then try this one)

 

[Ed Medlin]

Paul, the Sapphire card requires a separate power supply. Inside the PC
there already existed a power lead running from the PSU to the hard =
drive.
The lead from the PSU was split two ways, one supplying the hard drive
=
and
the other hanging free. I used the free one to plug into the Sapphire =
card.

The card is functioning under the VGASAVE drivers so I assume the card
=
is
ok. Would it still be necessary to check the IRQ setting on the =
motherboard?
The previous nVidea 4600ti ran fine though it didn't require an
external
power lead.

I am sure the power supply is providing adequate wattage though there
is
nothing visible to show what it is. I would be very surprised if it is
=
below
300W. Do you know if there is an easy way to check?

Appreciate your help. Just a bit frustrating having spent over =A3200 =
and
can't get the card to work

Dave

Uninstall the ATI drivers. There is a program called NFR (Nasty File
Remover) at www.guru3d.com . Set it for ATI and run it to get all the old
ATI driver remnants out. Then set it for Nvidia to take care of those before
rebooting. Reboot and install the drivers. My X850 PCIE by Sapphire uses the
ATI reference drivers, not sure about yours. If in doubt, just use the
latest drivers from Sapphire's site. Good luck.


Ed

 

[LostSoul]

Want an easy way format c: An reinstall you're OS an im betting it will then
work. Been there done that nvidia to ati card stuff. Sucks but then hey you
want it to work right

I am getting no where with ATI. I have recently replaced my nVidea
4600ti card with a Sapphire X800XL AGP and at the moment can only run
the card on 'VGASAVE'. Tried installed CAT 5.5 both from hardware wizard
where I get the following message 'there was a problem installing this
hardware. Video Controller (VGA compatible). An error occurred during
the installation of the device. The data is invalid' OR direct from the
drivers where I get the following message 'setup was unable to complete
the installation. Try to set up your display adaptor with a standard VGA
driver before running setup'

Can anyone provide some advise on how I can get these installed before I
take the card back to PC World and exchange for nVidea.

I have a P2.4 running on Intel D845GBV motherboard

I have installed, re-installed the ATI drivers. I have installed and
un-installed the existing nVidea drivers. I have tried in SAFE mode and
now at a loss on how to get these drivers in

Really appreciate some expert guidance

Dave

On my old GF2 I used to get the 'Data is invalid' error. It was on a
Windows 2000 machine and basically the error was an obscure one which was
to do with permissions in the registry (Even happens if you're running as
administrator - some permissions are set to read only for a bizarre
reason)

Having a quick search around the web I found how to solve the error
again - and I believe you could try this for yours:

(from here: http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-256959.php)

That error is due to a registry permission
prob Dan (If you use XP)

Go to start/run. Type regedit.

Then go here.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\PCI

Go the entry where it shows that videocard (click
on the [+]'s). When u find it, highlight it, and select
permissions, then tick Full control. Reboot, then
the driver should load with no probs at all.

P.S. I think from memory you're meant to set the permissions to full
control, then do the driver install (setup.exe), THEN reboot the machine
and it should all install fine.

Or it could be that you do the setup.exe for the driver install after
doing an initial reboot after doing the registry changes (if the first
option above does not work then try this one)

 

[ofn01]

Want an easy way format c: An reinstall you're OS an im betting it will then
work. Been there done that nvidia to ati card stuff. Sucks but then hey you
want it to work right

Reformatting and installing is a final resort - but changing the
permissions on registry keys has to be easier

David Hewitt wrote:


I am getting no where with ATI. I have recently replaced my nVidea
4600ti card with a Sapphire X800XL AGP and at the moment can only run
the card on 'VGASAVE'. Tried installed CAT 5.5 both from hardware wizard
where I get the following message 'there was a problem installing this
hardware. Video Controller (VGA compatible). An error occurred during
the installation of the device. The data is invalid' OR direct from the
drivers where I get the following message 'setup was unable to complete
the installation. Try to set up your display adaptor with a standard VGA
driver before running setup'

Can anyone provide some advise on how I can get these installed before I
take the card back to PC World and exchange for nVidea.

I have a P2.4 running on Intel D845GBV motherboard

I have installed, re-installed the ATI drivers. I have installed and
un-installed the existing nVidea drivers. I have tried in SAFE mode and
now at a loss on how to get these drivers in

Really appreciate some expert guidance

Dave


On my old GF2 I used to get the 'Data is invalid' error. It was on a
Windows 2000 machine and basically the error was an obscure one which was
to do with permissions in the registry (Even happens if you're running as
administrator - some permissions are set to read only for a bizarre
reason)

Having a quick search around the web I found how to solve the error
again - and I believe you could try this for yours:

(from here: http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-256959.php)


That error is due to a registry permission
prob Dan (If you use XP)

Go to start/run. Type regedit.

Then go here.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\PCI

Go the entry where it shows that videocard (click
on the [+]'s). When u find it, highlight it, and select
permissions, then tick Full control. Reboot, then
the driver should load with no probs at all.

P.S. I think from memory you're meant to set the permissions to full
control, then do the driver install (setup.exe), THEN reboot the machine
and it should all install fine.

Or it could be that you do the setup.exe for the driver install after
doing an initial reboot after doing the registry changes (if the first
option above does not work then try this one)