Can anyone help? Where is the C: root folder ..????

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~ Free Spirit ~

Ok guys, here's another one. I never had problems finding anything in W95
and W98. I have these instructions and can't follow them because we can't
locate this "root folder". FIND can't find it either (FIND doesn't locate
many things we look for).
========please read this to understand:

To use the version provided with Windows XP, click on Start, Run,
then type: expand d:\i386\csapi3t1.dl_ c:\csapi3t1.dll
and click OK (if necessary, replace "d:\i386" with the true path of
your i386 folder.) A command window should flash up on your screen
and then vanish. Now look for the file in the C:\ root folder using
Windows Explorer, and move it to Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Proof using drag and drop. If you use this
method, be sure to get the filename correct (the end of the filename
is number three, letter T, number one.)

HOW do we find this "root folder" since all files are exposed in WE and it
doesn't show there????

FS...... DESPISES XP :(
 
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Don MI

In Windows Explorer click on the C drive. You should see on the right a list
of folders and files. The files listed are in the root folder.

Don
 
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GK

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
Ok guys, here's another one. I never had problems finding anything in W95
and W98. I have these instructions and can't follow them because we can't
locate this "root folder". FIND can't find it either (FIND doesn't locate
many things we look for).
========please read this to understand:

To use the version provided with Windows XP, click on Start, Run,
then type: expand d:\i386\csapi3t1.dl_ c:\csapi3t1.dll
and click OK (if necessary, replace "d:\i386" with the true path of
your i386 folder.) A command window should flash up on your screen
and then vanish. Now look for the file in the C:\ root folder using
Windows Explorer, and move it to Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Proof using drag and drop. If you use this
method, be sure to get the filename correct (the end of the filename
is number three, letter T, number one.)

HOW do we find this "root folder" since all files are exposed in WE and it
doesn't show there????

FS...... DESPISES XP :(

C:\ is the root folder. That's what it is saying. Surely you can find C:\, yes?
 
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GK

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
Ok guys, here's another one. I never had problems finding anything in W95
and W98. I have these instructions and can't follow them because we can't
locate this "root folder". FIND can't find it either (FIND doesn't locate
many things we look for).
========please read this to understand:

To use the version provided with Windows XP, click on Start, Run,
then type: expand d:\i386\csapi3t1.dl_ c:\csapi3t1.dll
and click OK (if necessary, replace "d:\i386" with the true path of
your i386 folder.) A command window should flash up on your screen
and then vanish. Now look for the file in the C:\ root folder using
Windows Explorer, and move it to Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Proof using drag and drop. If you use this
method, be sure to get the filename correct (the end of the filename
is number three, letter T, number one.)

HOW do we find this "root folder" since all files are exposed in WE and it
doesn't show there????

FS...... DESPISES XP :(

I canceled my first response, because it's a little ambiguous. C:\ = C drive,
and is sometimes referred to as the root folder, or just "root" or root drive.
In this case I think they are calling C:\ itself the root folder. But, a root
folder can also be any list of folders that first appear under C:\, i.e Windows.
 
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~ Free Spirit ~

GK said:
I canceled my first response, because it's a little ambiguous. C:\ = C drive,
and is sometimes referred to as the root folder, or just "root" or root drive.
In this case I think they are calling C:\ itself the root folder. But, a root
folder can also be any list of folders that first appear under C:\, i.e
Windows.
===================
Found it THANKS!!!! Why doesn't MS have this working when we buy our PCs?
A spellchecker is so important.
OK... now question #2.

Where do is get a free spellchecer for WordPad? Would you know offhand? I
use WordPad a lot and have to C&P it to OE to spellcheck it, then C&P back
to WordPad to print it. A real pain in the (_|_). Is there something like
the above to have a spellchecker work in WordPad?

Thanks :)

FS.........
 
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GK

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
Windows.
===================
Found it THANKS!!!! Why doesn't MS have this working when we buy our PCs?
A spellchecker is so important.
OK... now question #2.

Where do is get a free spellchecer for WordPad? Would you know offhand? I
use WordPad a lot and have to C&P it to OE to spellcheck it, then C&P back
to WordPad to print it. A real pain in the (_|_). Is there something like
the above to have a spellchecker work in WordPad?

Thanks :)

FS.........

Offhand, no, I'm not aware of any spellchecking program that can be linked to
Wordpad, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if it existed as shareware or
something. But, your question prompts one from me? Why are you using WordPad?
I'm guessing that there's a good chance that your computer came with MS Works,
not WORD or Office, although it may have that too. Many new computer come
with Works, and Works contains an excellent word processing program from Microsoft.
Check your program list for it. It has a spell checker too. If you don't have it,
you can buy Works at a computer store pretty reasonably priced. I think around $30
and you get a spread sheet program, calender program, and database program included
.... nice, really. Also, there may be some freeware you can download. Cost ya
nothing. Learn how to search out freeware sites. Be careful though, some freeware
comes bundled with spyware - but not always. You can usually find out by reading
their privacy statement. I've learned to scan these things pretty fast now.
 
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GK

GK said:
Offhand, no, I'm not aware of any spellchecking program that can be
linked to
Wordpad, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if it existed as
shareware or
something. But, your question prompts one from me? Why are you using
WordPad?
I'm guessing that there's a good chance that your computer came with MS
Works,
not WORD or Office, although it may have that too. Many new computer come
with Works, and Works contains an excellent word processing program from
Microsoft.
Check your program list for it. It has a spell checker too. If you don't
have it,
you can buy Works at a computer store pretty reasonably priced. I think
around $30
and you get a spread sheet program, calender program, and database
program included
... nice, really. Also, there may be some freeware you can download.
Cost ya
nothing. Learn how to search out freeware sites. Be careful though, some
freeware
comes bundled with spyware - but not always. You can usually find out by
reading
their privacy statement. I've learned to scan these things pretty fast now.
Okay, I did a quick search. Not sure how good any of these are but you can
download them and see. They have spellcheckers too.

http://www.abisource.com/

http://www.jarte.com/
 
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~ Free Spirit ~

GK said:
Offhand, no, I'm not aware of any spellchecking program that can be linked to
Wordpad, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if it existed as shareware or
something. But, your question prompts one from me? Why are you using
WordPad?

$$ It's very easy to use. You don't need a 2 year secretarial degree to
understand it.
I'm guessing that there's a good chance that your computer came with MS Works,
not WORD or Office, although it may have that too.

$$ It came with "WordPerfect" which I spent many frustrating hours trying to
learn to use. It's not intuitive and the pages can't be printed because the
type runs off the page etc. (I have a HP printer.) You need a degree in
"something" to even start to use it correctly. There are buttons and
choices all over the top of the page that mean nothing to me. The helpfiles
seem geared to computer geeks or technicians, not the average Jane and Joe
out there who doesn't know the terminology.
Here's an example from the unhelpful helpfiles:

Example: WordPerfect 10 makes it easy for you to convert Microsoft Word
files to WordPerfect formats,

* I have no clue what a MS Word file is, or what a WordPerfect Format is.
All I want are txt files to print with my old HP printer and to save on my
HD. And I notice on XP they refuse to save as txt. files - WHY? Why should
I have to go turn on my old PC in the back office with W98SE just to use
it's WordPad because it *will* save them as txt files.

EXAMPLE: open Microsoft Word documents in WordPerfect,
and save WordPerfect documents as Microsoft Word files.

* What is a MS Word document? Is that a .txt doc from WordPad? The
helpfiles don't say. I need something like WordPad to type up the pages,
spellcheck them, save them as txt,.... and print them.

If you are moving from Microsoft Word, you need to know which features of
WordPerfect have different names. Because Microsoft Word and WordPerfect
share basic formatting features, essential layouts, and many of the same
menu options, you can create Microsoft Word documents and then easily import
files into WordPerfect.

* WTF????

In this section, you'll learn about
Copyright (c) Corel Corporation. 2001. All rights reserved.

* Unless you have prior knowledge and know the terminology you just go in
circles.

Many new computer come
with Works, and Works contains an excellent word processing program from Microsoft.
Check your program list for it. It has a spell checker too. If you don't have it,
you can buy Works at a computer store pretty reasonably priced. I think around $30
and you get a spread sheet program, calender program, and database program
included

** I haven't a clue what a spreadsheet is or those other things, are nor do
I need them. All I need is a spellchecker for WordPad or a similar
easy-to-use program with a spellchecer.
... nice, really. Also, there may be some freeware you can download. Cost ya
nothing. Learn how to search out freeware sites. Be careful though, some freeware
comes bundled with spyware - but not always. You can usually find out by reading
their privacy statement. I've learned to scan these things pretty fast
now.

** I've been searching for an hour and haven't found a free one to work with
WordPad on XP yet. I can't see why in these days of such large HDs that MS
can't add a spellchecker to WordPad. Since retirement we're trying to keep
expenses down. I can't see paying $15 or more for a spellcheck unless I
can't find a free one.

Is there any way to save the pages from WordPad as txt files in XP? I
shouldn't need to use 2 computers to get my work done.

Thanks.... :)

FS..........
 
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GK

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
shareware or


WordPad?

$$ It's very easy to use. You don't need a 2 year secretarial degree to
understand it.




$$ It came with "WordPerfect" which I spent many frustrating hours trying to
learn to use. It's not intuitive and the pages can't be printed because the
type runs off the page etc. (I have a HP printer.) You need a degree in
"something" to even start to use it correctly. There are buttons and
choices all over the top of the page that mean nothing to me. The helpfiles
seem geared to computer geeks or technicians, not the average Jane and Joe
out there who doesn't know the terminology.
Here's an example from the unhelpful helpfiles:

Example: WordPerfect 10 makes it easy for you to convert Microsoft Word
files to WordPerfect formats,

* I have no clue what a MS Word file is, or what a WordPerfect Format is.
All I want are txt files to print with my old HP printer and to save on my
HD. And I notice on XP they refuse to save as txt. files - WHY? Why should
I have to go turn on my old PC in the back office with W98SE just to use
it's WordPad because it *will* save them as txt files.

EXAMPLE: open Microsoft Word documents in WordPerfect,
and save WordPerfect documents as Microsoft Word files.

* What is a MS Word document? Is that a .txt doc from WordPad? The
helpfiles don't say. I need something like WordPad to type up the pages,
spellcheck them, save them as txt,.... and print them.

If you are moving from Microsoft Word, you need to know which features of
WordPerfect have different names. Because Microsoft Word and WordPerfect
share basic formatting features, essential layouts, and many of the same
menu options, you can create Microsoft Word documents and then easily import
files into WordPerfect.

* WTF????

In this section, you'll learn about
Copyright (c) Corel Corporation. 2001. All rights reserved.

* Unless you have prior knowledge and know the terminology you just go in
circles.

Many new computer come


have it,


around $30


included

** I haven't a clue what a spreadsheet is or those other things, are nor do
I need them. All I need is a spellchecker for WordPad or a similar
easy-to-use program with a spellchecer.



now.

** I've been searching for an hour and haven't found a free one to work with
WordPad on XP yet. I can't see why in these days of such large HDs that MS
can't add a spellchecker to WordPad. Since retirement we're trying to keep
expenses down. I can't see paying $15 or more for a spellcheck unless I
can't find a free one.

Is there any way to save the pages from WordPad as txt files in XP? I
shouldn't need to use 2 computers to get my work done.

Thanks.... :)

FS..........

Well, FS, all this stuff is rather basic, and although I can understand your
frustration, if you want to use the computer adeptly, you need to be patient,
ask questions, and read. It doesn't come overnight, but it comes. The computer
world will not conform to you, rather, you must conform to it.

MS word documents are documents that are created with the word processing
program from Microsoft called WORD. It contains a specific format and files
created by this program have a .doc extension. That's how these particular
documents are identified. Wordperfect is another word processing program
that creates documents in another format and has an extension .wpd (I believe).
These extensions are at the end of the file name: e.g. FreeSpirit.doc. By
looking at this file, I can see it is a WORD document containing formatting
created by the WORD program. Formatting means things like fonts, spacing of
lines and text, and other hidden aspects of the file. Often, in order to
be user friendly to the world, many word processing programs are designed
to read the formatting of a their competitors, and even convert that format
to their own. This way you can use only one Word processing program to
work with many different documents, created with different formats that
were created using other word processing programs. Each program has
its own formatting and its own file extension, and the extension is the
visual identifying component that one uses to determine what kind of
document it is. Hence, Word documents end in .doc; WordPerfect documents
end in .wpd.

I agree, it's is not always easy to learn this stuff, nor is it a always
a quick exercise, but it's possible if you have a little desire, and you
certainly don't need a degree of any kind. My best advice would be to go to
the library and get a book like "Word for dummies" or "Wordperfect for
Dummies" and sit down each say and read a few pages. You will be amazed
how much sense it all makes when you're done. The buttons will become
second nature.

You strike me as a person who likes to learn.
 
G

GK

GK said:
Well, FS, all this stuff is rather basic, and although I can understand
your
frustration, if you want to use the computer adeptly, you need to be
patient,
ask questions, and read. It doesn't come overnight, but it comes. The
computer
world will not conform to you, rather, you must conform to it.

MS word documents are documents that are created with the word processing
program from Microsoft called WORD. It contains a specific format and files
created by this program have a .doc extension. That's how these particular
documents are identified. Wordperfect is another word processing program
that creates documents in another format and has an extension .wpd (I
believe).
These extensions are at the end of the file name: e.g. FreeSpirit.doc. By
looking at this file, I can see it is a WORD document containing formatting
created by the WORD program. Formatting means things like fonts, spacing of
lines and text, and other hidden aspects of the file. Often, in order to
be user friendly to the world, many word processing programs are designed
to read the formatting of a their competitors, and even convert that format
to their own. This way you can use only one Word processing program to
work with many different documents, created with different formats that
were created using other word processing programs. Each program has
its own formatting and its own file extension, and the extension is the
visual identifying component that one uses to determine what kind of
document it is. Hence, Word documents end in .doc; WordPerfect documents
end in .wpd.

I agree, it's is not always easy to learn this stuff, nor is it a always
a quick exercise, but it's possible if you have a little desire, and you
certainly don't need a degree of any kind. My best advice would be to go to
the library and get a book like "Word for dummies" or "Wordperfect for
Dummies" and sit down each say and read a few pages. You will be amazed
how much sense it all makes when you're done. The buttons will become
second nature.

You strike me as a person who likes to learn.

Oh, and BTW, all word processing programs (as far as I know) will create
and read .txt files. This is the most basic of all documents, contains no
formatting, and is standard across the board. This type of document is
often referred to as a plain text document or and ASCII
(American Standard Code for Information Interchange) document. Which is
a code everyone follows as a matter of practice when designing their products
to create such documents.

There may be more accurate ways to explain it, but I think, basically, that's
how it is.
 
E

Epona

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
$$ It's very easy to use. You don't need a 2 year secretarial degree
to understand it.


$$ It came with "WordPerfect" which I spent many frustrating hours
trying to learn to use. It's not intuitive and the pages can't be
printed because the type runs off the page etc. (I have a HP
printer.) You need a degree in "something" to even start to use it
correctly. There are buttons and choices all over the top of the
page that mean nothing to me. The helpfiles seem geared to computer
geeks or technicians, not the average Jane and Joe out there who
doesn't know the terminology.
Here's an example from the unhelpful helpfiles:

Example: WordPerfect 10 makes it easy for you to convert Microsoft
Word files to WordPerfect formats,

* I have no clue what a MS Word file is, or what a WordPerfect
Format is. All I want are txt files to print with my old HP printer
and to save on my HD. And I notice on XP they refuse to save as txt.
files - WHY? Why should I have to go turn on my old PC in the back
office with W98SE just to use it's WordPad because it *will* save
them as txt files.

EXAMPLE: open Microsoft Word documents in WordPerfect,
and save WordPerfect documents as Microsoft Word files.

* What is a MS Word document? Is that a .txt doc from WordPad? The
helpfiles don't say. I need something like WordPad to type up the
pages, spellcheck them, save them as txt,.... and print them.

If you are moving from Microsoft Word, you need to know which
features of WordPerfect have different names. Because Microsoft Word
and WordPerfect share basic formatting features, essential layouts,
and many of the same menu options, you can create Microsoft Word
documents and then easily import files into WordPerfect.

* WTF????

In this section, you'll learn about
Copyright (c) Corel Corporation. 2001. All rights reserved.

* Unless you have prior knowledge and know the terminology you just
go in circles.

Many new computer come

** I haven't a clue what a spreadsheet is or those other things, are
nor do I need them. All I need is a spellchecker for WordPad or a
similar easy-to-use program with a spellchecer.


** I've been searching for an hour and haven't found a free one to
work with WordPad on XP yet. I can't see why in these days of such
large HDs that MS can't add a spellchecker to WordPad. Since
retirement we're trying to keep expenses down. I can't see paying
$15 or more for a spellcheck unless I can't find a free one.

Is there any way to save the pages from WordPad as txt files in XP?
I shouldn't need to use 2 computers to get my work done.

Thanks.... :)

FS..........

Lemme guess - you're blonde, right? ;o) The four year old next door knows
what a 'Microsoft Word document is - it's , er, a document created in MS
Word, surprisingly enough.

There is nothing in those excerpts you've posted that someone of average
intelligence couldn't understand. There's nothing 'technical' or 'geeky'
there in the slightest.

If you don't like WP - simple solution, buy Office.
 
P

Papa

It is simply C:\.

Below C:\ are subsidiary folders such as "Windows", and below "Windows" are
subsidiary folders to the "Windows" folder, such as the "System32" folder.

So, for example, C:\ is the root, C:\Windows is the path to the "Windows"
folder, and C:|Windows\System32 is the path to the "System32" folder.
 
D

Donald McDaniel

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
$$ It's very easy to use. You don't need a 2 year secretarial degree
to understand it.


$$ It came with "WordPerfect" which I spent many frustrating hours
trying to learn to use. It's not intuitive and the pages can't be
printed because the type runs off the page etc. (I have a HP
printer.) You need a degree in "something" to even start to use it
correctly. There are buttons and choices all over the top of the
page that mean nothing to me. The helpfiles seem geared to computer
geeks or technicians, not the average Jane and Joe out there who
doesn't know the terminology.
Here's an example from the unhelpful helpfiles:

Example: WordPerfect 10 makes it easy for you to convert Microsoft
Word files to WordPerfect formats,

* I have no clue what a MS Word file is, or what a WordPerfect
Format is. All I want are txt files to print with my old HP printer
and to save on my HD. And I notice on XP they refuse to save as txt.
files - WHY? Why should I have to go turn on my old PC in the back
office with W98SE just to use it's WordPad because it *will* save
them as txt files.

EXAMPLE: open Microsoft Word documents in WordPerfect,
and save WordPerfect documents as Microsoft Word files.

* What is a MS Word document? Is that a .txt doc from WordPad? The
helpfiles don't say. I need something like WordPad to type up the
pages, spellcheck them, save them as txt,.... and print them.

If you are moving from Microsoft Word, you need to know which
features of WordPerfect have different names. Because Microsoft Word
and WordPerfect share basic formatting features, essential layouts,
and many of the same menu options, you can create Microsoft Word
documents and then easily import files into WordPerfect.

* WTF????

In this section, you'll learn about
Copyright (c) Corel Corporation. 2001. All rights reserved.

* Unless you have prior knowledge and know the terminology you just
go in circles.

Many new computer come

** I haven't a clue what a spreadsheet is or those other things, are
nor do I need them. All I need is a spellchecker for WordPad or a
similar easy-to-use program with a spellchecer.


** I've been searching for an hour and haven't found a free one to
work with WordPad on XP yet. I can't see why in these days of such
large HDs that MS can't add a spellchecker to WordPad. Since
retirement we're trying to keep expenses down. I can't see paying
$15 or more for a spellcheck unless I can't find a free one.

Is there any way to save the pages from WordPad as txt files in XP?
I shouldn't need to use 2 computers to get my work done.

Thanks.... :)

FS..........

To save files in WordPad as text documents, do "File|Save as...", enter the
file name, and select "Text document" as the file type from the drop-down
list (accessed by clicking on the arrow on the right side of the line which
says "Save as type...".)

By the way, a Word file is a file formatted by Microsoft Word and saved
using Microsoft Word. It usually has a ".doc" file extension. Word Perfect
format means the file has been formatted by Word Perfect. I don't know what
extension for documents Word Perfect is using nowadays. Maybe ".wpf" or
".wpd"
 
F

~ Free Spirit ~

GK said:
Oh, and BTW, all word processing programs (as far as I know) will create
and read .txt files. This is the most basic of all documents, contains no
formatting, and is standard across the board. This type of document is
often referred to as a plain text document or and ASCII
(American Standard Code for Information Interchange) document. Which is
a code everyone follows as a matter of practice when designing their products
to create such documents.

There may be more accurate ways to explain it, but I think, basically, that's
how it is.
================
Thanks. The information in you last post, and this one explains a lot. I
checked out one of the downloads but get an error when truing to access the
Helpfiles. I'll try the other and play with WordPerfect some more.

FS..........
 
F

~ Free Spirit ~

Epona said:
Lemme guess - you're blonde, right? ;o) The four year old next door knows
what a 'Microsoft Word document is - it's , er, a document created in MS
Word, surprisingly enough.

## I assumed it was but wouldn't know one if I saw it,... and why would I?
Where would I or a 4 year old for that matter see or use one of these
documents? I was a veterinary assistant and we didn't have computers back
then.
There is nothing in those excerpts you've posted that someone of average
intelligence couldn't understand. There's nothing 'technical' or 'geeky'
there in the slightest.

## Oh really? If you want to insult people why not go to Usenet and find
those special "insult everyone" NGs? :) You can tell them how you were
BORN knowing all the word processors and what idiots and blondes everyone
but you are! Now that should really build up your ego.
If you don't like WP - simple solution, buy Office.

## Why should I buy software I don't even know I can use, or that I need?
All I need is a spellchecker for WordPad.

FS.........
 
F

~ Free Spirit ~

Donald McDaniel said:
To save files in WordPad as text documents, do "File|Save as...", enter the
file name, and select "Text document" as the file type from the drop-down
list (accessed by clicking on the arrow on the right side of the line which
says "Save as type...".)

** I know how to do this but then I lose the formatting on the XP computer.
On W98SE when I save them as .txt the formatting is NOT LOST. How do I save
them as a .txt and NOT lose the formatting on the XP machine? It wants to
save them as .rtf files. What is an rtf file? I never saw rtf files on W98
when I used WordPad.
By the way, a Word file is a file formatted by Microsoft Word and saved
using Microsoft Word. It usually has a ".doc" file extension. Word Perfect
format means the file has been formatted by Word Perfect. I don't know what
extension for documents Word Perfect is using nowadays. Maybe ".wpf" or
".wpd"

** I honestly don't know either because we couldn't figure out how to use
it.

FS........
 
F

~ Free Spirit ~

Papa said:
It is simply C:\.

Below C:\ are subsidiary folders such as "Windows", and below "Windows" are
subsidiary folders to the "Windows" folder, such as the "System32" folder.

So, for example, C:\ is the root, C:\Windows is the path to the "Windows"
folder, and C:|Windows\System32 is the path to the "System32" folder.
========================
Yes, thanks. I understood that from the other post. The folks I know here
call that the TREE. So now I know the TREE and the ROOT are basically the
same thing. :blush:)

FS.......
 
G

GK

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
================
Thanks. The information in you last post, and this one explains a lot. I
checked out one of the downloads but get an error when truing to access the
Helpfiles. I'll try the other and play with WordPerfect some more.

FS..........

Well, I found a 3rd party WordPad program with a a spellchecker. I download
it myself for a quick look. You can save documents in .rtf (rich text file)
or .txt (plain text file) or as an *older* version Word document - .doc.
To save as .txt or .rtf or whatever, go to File, save as, look at the bottom
of the window and select your choice.

..rtf is another standard file format that most spell checkers can create and
read. It has some formatting. Here's the download site for the program. You
will need a zip expanding program to open the file. Download free Winzip or
some other one if you need a program like this. Once the zip file is expanded,
select setup file in the list to install.

http://users.erols.com/fwcetus/cwordpad.htm
 
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D.Currie

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
Is there any way to save the pages from WordPad as txt files in XP? I
shouldn't need to use 2 computers to get my work done.

Thanks.... :)

FS..........
on the menu, go to file --> save as

In the drop-down menu, choose Text File.
 

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