Can a new Mac export to an XP drive?

[Rock]

HI,

I have a firewire external XP formatted drive and need to get some data
of a guy's Mac.

He said it will do it but I need to know if I have mine set up for that.

Mine in NTFS with XP on it and the drive in in a FireWire external box.


Thanks

Rock

 

[Nathan McNulty]

This post is a little unclear. I do not believe a PC can read MAC
files, but both can use the hard drive. The best way for you to find
out is to test it and see if it works

 

[Jim Macklin]

I think that the OS X Mac system has a built-in file
converter, it can make a Windows compatible file and the
Firewire drive can be plugged into the XP machine and the
Win files copied.

see http://www.macwindows.com/jaguar.html
.. An SMB file server for Windows clients

For the first time, a client version of Mac OS includes a
peer-to-peer SMB file server enabling Windows users to
access files on the Mac. Mac OS X will give you the URL that
Windows users can type,but according to Apple, the Mac
should show up in the My Network window of a Windows PC. By
default, the Mac is placed in the "WORKGROUP" work group on
the Windows network, but that can be changed using Jaguar's
new Directory Access utility.

There are several steps to turning SMB sharing on. First,
you click a box in the Sharing pane of System Preferences.
Next, you create accounts for the PC users in the Accounts
pane of System Preferences. For each account, you need to
check a box labeled "Allow user to log in from Windows."

.. SMB client now with browsing

Mac OS X 10.1 added the ability to access Windows file
servers via the Windows-native SMB file sharing protocol,
but only when you typed in a URL. Version 10.2 adds SMB
browsing, so that Windows servers appear in the Connect to
Server dialog. The Windows workgroup(s) appear(s) in the
left column. Click on a workgroup, and you'll get a list of
Windows file servers. Click on server and you can log on.
(The "smb:/" URL is also displayed, though you no longer
need to type it in.)

| This post is a little unclear. I do not believe a PC can
read MAC
| files, but both can use the hard drive. The best way for
you to find
| out is to test it and see if it works
|
| ----
| Nathan McNulty
|
|
| Rock wrote:
| > HI,
| >
| > I have a firewire external XP formatted drive and need
to get some data
| > of a guy's Mac.
| >
| > He said it will do it but I need to know if I have mine
set up for that.
| >
| > Mine in NTFS with XP on it and the drive in in a
FireWire external box.
| >
| >
| > Thanks
| >
| > Rock

 

[Vanguardx]

HI,

I have a firewire external XP formatted drive and need to get some
data of a guy's Mac.

He said it will do it but I need to know if I have mine set up for
that.
Mine in NTFS with XP on it and the drive in in a FireWire external
box.

Thanks

Rock

Your Mac-wielding friend cannot explain to you how he intends to perform
the file transfer? I don't use a Mac but even I can do a search on
Apple's support web page. Check the bottom of
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75320. Anyone can Google
search. I found http://www.sigsoftware.com/info/mactowindows.html which
mentions PC/File Exchange included in Mac OS so maybe that's what your
friend proposes to use. Or create a FAT32 partition (you may have to
resize your partition(s) to make room for a new FAT32 "transfer"
partition, so you'll need a 3rd party product to do that, like
PartitionMagic).

Firewire is the hardware interface. You still need to have something to
support the file system wanted on the targeted storage device. This is
a question probably better suited for asking in one of the comp.*.mac.*
newsgroups.

 

[Vanguardx]

I think that the OS X Mac system has a built-in file
converter, it can make a Windows compatible file and the
Firewire drive can be plugged into the XP machine and the
Win files copied.

see http://www.macwindows.com/jaguar.html
. An SMB file server for Windows clients

<snip>

Samba, FTP, Services for Mac (on Windows 2000/2003 *Server*), or any
other networking solutions won't work because the OP is only carrying
the hard drive to the Mac host. Whether or not there is Windows XP on
that drive is irrelevant because nothing of Windows XP will be running
as a networked host to use networking protocols and converters to handle
the file transfer. That's why I figure the OP needs to use a compatible
file system supported by both operating systems - when they are
running - which may include FAT32 or use a transfer utility either built
into the Mac (since that will be the only OS running at the time of the
file transfer) or available as a 3rd party tool.

I also figure, and although the PC user community dwarfs the Mac user
community, that there are more numbers of Mac users that get stuck
having to interface with the PC world than there are PC users that get
stuck interfacing with the Mac world, and why asking newsgroups
populated by Mac users might provide better answers.

 

[Jim Macklin]

Point taken, perhaps the best solution would involve two
Ethernet cards rather than a Firewire external drive.


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"Vanguardx" <see_signature> wrote in message
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
| wrote in | > I think that the OS X Mac system has a built-in file
| > converter, it can make a Windows compatible file and the
| > Firewire drive can be plugged into the XP machine and
the
| > Win files copied.
| >
| > see http://www.macwindows.com/jaguar.html
| > . An SMB file server for Windows clients
| >
| <snip>
|
| Samba, FTP, Services for Mac (on Windows 2000/2003
*Server*), or any
| other networking solutions won't work because the OP is
only carrying
| the hard drive to the Mac host. Whether or not there is
Windows XP on
| that drive is irrelevant because nothing of Windows XP
will be running
| as a networked host to use networking protocols and
converters to handle
| the file transfer. That's why I figure the OP needs to
use a compatible
| file system supported by both operating systems - when
they are
| running - which may include FAT32 or use a transfer
utility either built
| into the Mac (since that will be the only OS running at
the time of the
| file transfer) or available as a 3rd party tool.
|
| I also figure, and although the PC user community dwarfs
the Mac user
| community, that there are more numbers of Mac users that
get stuck
| having to interface with the PC world than there are PC
users that get
| stuck interfacing with the Mac world, and why asking
newsgroups
| populated by Mac users might provide better answers.
|
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[Rock]

Ah Haa, I think you have hit it on the head!

We tried it before but the Mac didn't see the ext drive at all.

The files by the way are Mac and PC useable wav files as they are audio,
so if I can get them onto my ext drive, I am cooking XP to read them.

Maybe bacause it is formatted NTFS NOT FAT32!

What say ye!

Rock

 

[Vanguardx]

Fomat your ext. Hdd as basic disk with FAT 32 file format.
You can use the XP disk management feature to format it at any time.

Be careful with reformatting advice. The OP said, "Mine in NTFS with XP
on it." It looks like the OP has Windows XP installed on that external
drive (don't know why but that's what he said). If the partition to be
reformatted is a different one that where Windows XP is installed and
has nothing of value on it or was backed up (and *verified* to be
readable backup media - backup without verification is playing Russian
Roulette), or if the partition has Windows XP and the OP doesn't care
about losing that install, then they can use the Disk Management applet
in Windows XP to reformat that partition. There is the safety that Disk
Management will not let you format the partition from which the current
instance of the operating system is running, but that might not be the
instance of Windows XP that the OP mentioned is installed on the
external drive.

While you can use 'convert' to switch from FAT32 to NTFS, there is no
utility (provided by Microsoft) to switch from NTFS to FAT32, so the
switch is destructive because you have to FORMAT the partition and wipe
everything on it to get to using FAT32. If the Windows XP install on
the external drive is important and must stick, and since it uses NTFS,
and if that is the only partition then using PartitionMagic or other 3rd
party software to resize partition(s) and create a new FAT32 in the then
unallocated space seems the only way to solve his drive-toting
file-transfer problem.

 

[Ron Colvin]

Point taken, perhaps the best solution would involve two
Ethernet cards rather than a Firewire external drive.

If you have 10.3 there is limited read ability on NTFS, no write.
Anything before that I would not count on at all. Best bet is as someone
else mentioned move the files so you can re-format the drive fat32 or
network them. I believe it is a G4 or better, and all the g4 powerbooks
will auto sense on the ethernet jack so you don't need a cross-over
cable if you don't have a hub. The mac should be able to see any windows
shares automatically with 10.2 or 10.3 in case not in the finder go
connect to server smb://IP/sharepoint/