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[thetruthhurts]

Allow me to state that I understand that users want to utilize that which
came with the computer, namely Explorer. But "you" must understand that
Explorer is an inferior way, in every respect, to handle files.

I use a competent file manager program. I can copy multi gig files or
thousands of small files from one drive to another. After I highlight the
files I wish to copy, and initiate the copy process, the file copying
commences immediately. There is no delay what-so-ever.

I honestly do not know why so many people have a hang-up for Explorer. It is
so poor and inefficient for file system maintenance.

I'll bite.......what file manager do you use under Vista?

 

[Richard Urban]

The same one that I have been using for the past 13 years. Total Commander.
The latest version 6.56 for XP works fine under Vista. There is a beta, RC5,
that has some of the Vista eye candy, as well as more options (as if a
thousand aren't enough already). It will be released soon.

I just copied about 800 meg of files and utilities to a USB stick. After
selecting and pressing copy, the copying took off immediately. No
pre-determination of anything - it just went. This was with RC5.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Frank Rizzo]

As always, things just zoom right past Frank. Most everyone knows
there are WAY BETTER file managers, viewers, etc. available, the point
is you shouldn't have to buy one when you've already paid $200 to
upgrade Vista like I did to get the Vista business version.

Let us know when it pent rates your thick skull Frank. The point lost
on Frank and other Microsoft fanboys is even if you install a better
shell or whatever Windows Explorer is still eating up resources
because you can never totally shut the damn crap off. If only you
could turn the damn thing off! Microsoft won't let you disable core
components.

Get it yet Frank? No? Well duh, you never do.

Me thinks, you got the name wrong, Chachi. I was just reporting the
problem.

 

[Adam Albright]

Me thinks, you got the name wrong, Chachi. I was just reporting the
problem.

No, the OTHER Frank that's always so uptight.

 

[john]

The same one that I have been using for the past 13 years. Total
Commander. The latest version 6.56 for XP works fine under Vista. There is
a beta, RC5, that has some of the Vista eye candy, as well as more options
(as if a thousand aren't enough already). It will be released soon.

that looks a lot like "PowerDesk Pro" - another excellent explorer
replacement.
....it started out in the late 90's as Mijenix, then was sold to OnTrack who
sold it to VCom.
it's still around and kicking...
http://www.v-com.com/product/PowerDesk_Pro_Home.html

 

[MICHAEL]

* Adam Albright:

As always, things just zoom right past Frank. Most everyone knows
there are WAY BETTER file managers, viewers, etc. available, the point
is you shouldn't have to buy one when you've already paid $200 to
upgrade Vista like I did to get the Vista business version.

Let us know when it pent rates your thick skull Frank. The point lost
on Frank and other Microsoft fanboys is even if you install a better
shell or whatever Windows Explorer is still eating up resources
because you can never totally shut the damn crap off. If only you
could turn the damn thing off! Microsoft won't let you disable core
components.

Get it yet Frank? No? Well duh, you never do.

Adam,

I'm not sure who you meant your rant to be directed at.
I do understand what you are saying. Yes, I am disappointed
that Windows Explorer (after all these years) still blows, and I
think it is quite pathetic at how bad it is at times in Vista.
I can even go off on a tangent or two myself.
However, once that wears off, I want to get stuff done and if
what I am working with is not good enough, I will find another
solution. I have better things to do than constantly complain.
I'll make my points and move on.

I completely realize that some folks just don't have the extra money
to spend on a solution fixing something that shouldn't need fixing
in the first place. I even understand the anger of those who do have
the funds but are pissed that it should even come to that. Vista should
be better than it is, Windows Explorer should be better than it is. It's not,
not right now. So, since I can, I found my own solution and it works well.
Hopefully, things will get better for Vista. If not, users need to find other
solutions.

I've used Windows Server 2008 and it is a great product. Hopefully,
Vista's code base catches up to it in SP1. We'll see. But, hope should
not be a substitute for action. If a user is upset and stated their grievances
with Microsoft and/or the computer manufacturer, and have yet to be
satisfied, it is time for them to seek other solutions or alternatives.

In this particular situation, I got over how bad Windows Explorer is,
and moved on to Opus 9. I'm almost thrilled I was unhappy with
Windows Explorer- Opus 9 is far superior to anything Microsoft has
ever done to file management and Explorer in their consumer OS releases.


-Michael

 

[Adam Albright]

* Adam Albright:

Adam,

I'm not sure who you meant your rant to be directed at.

Funny somebody else finds fault you label it ranting, you on the other
hand calmly and dispassionately explain things. Sure, right, got it.
Thanks for sharing. WHY I find newsgroups so much fun to watch.
Everybody sees fault in others, never themselves when they do the same
things. <snicker>

The point you seem to miss is since Explorer is one of several core
components of Vista as it has been in other versions of Windows since
the beginning simply installing another application to take it's place
isn't the answer since Explorer can't be shut totally down it still no
matter what hogs variable system resources and caused EVERYTHING you
do to run slower and be less effective because of it.

Microsoft sees people being told use something else, thus they have no
incentive or desire to throw resources at it to once and for all fix
it. Thus Explorer remains clunky, prone to crash and next to useless.

I wonder why, you seem to be saying so what, which brings us full
circle. If the majority don't demand better and hold Microsoft
accountable then they never will change and will continue to dump
inferior, poorly designed, untested crap on the public laughing all
the way to the bank.

Frankly I've had a belly full of Microsoft's arrogance. Almost twenty
years of the same old, same old, something broke? Oh no, that's just a
undocumented feature. Later they admit oops, I guess it is broke, well
maybe we'll fix it later, maybe not, wait nine months to a year or
more for some service pack.

WHY do people so willing accept Microsoft bullshit?

Just wondering.