CA vs. Symantec vs. Microsoft

[Ken Blake]

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Will Microsoft ever release a bi-directional firewall to
compete with
ZoneAlarm, Sygate and Computer Associates firewalls?

Assuming that this isn't just a rhetorical question, I have no
idea. I don't know what their plans are, and even if they have no
plans to do so now, that could change in the future.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

You got a point, there, <g>.

 

[Dan]

Maybe that why there are so many so called "script kiddies" out there that we
all have to watch out for or the students will become more proficient than
the teachers. <grin>

: You got a point, there, <g>.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: : > Gary S. Terhune wrote:
: > >
: > > So put a password on the router setup, <bg>.
: >
: > Yeah I know that's an available feature. I sort of like to learn tho
: > what kids his age do as it helps when going out in the field on
: service
: > calls.
: >
: > > > Got teens in the house? I put in a Linksys Router w/built in
: firewall
: > > > only to find that the teen upstairs took about 10 minutes to learn
: how
: > > > to disable ports to allow access to what he believed, was ONLY his
: pc.
: >
: >
:

 

[Dan]

Thanks, Leythos. That is why I also use a screen saver password as well as
my BIOS (Basic Input Output System) password. I do not have my desktop case
locked because I figure if someone wanted to remove the battery to disable my
computer that badly then they simple would smash the exterior lock or use
liquid nitrogen and break it easily that way. I have heard if you remove the
CMOS battery for a while that will reset the BIOS and then the person could
access the system. I am sure there is a way around the screen saver password
also but I am unsure of that as of now.

: On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:36:39 -0600, Plato wrote:
:
: > Dan wrote:
: >>
: >> What was the router number, Plato? My router is a wired 4-port router
model
: >> number --- BEFSX41. Can this Router be hacked? I also have ZoneAlarm
Pro.
: >
: > I dont recall. Hacked is not what Im talking about. It was just
: > interesting how he found the http address of the router to get to the
: > setup in only a matter of minutes reasearching using google. The kids's
: > not a computer geek either
:
: The router manual tells you to change the password as soon as you start
: configuring it. There are only two ways a unauthorized person can access
: the configuration pages - 1) You didn't setup a strong password. 2)
: Pressing the reset button on the back for 30 seconds and it resets to
: default values - including the password.
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[Dan]

Thanks Ken Blake and no it was not meant to be a rhetorical question but I
see now how it could be interpreted as a rhetorical question. Have a great
day!

: In : Dan <[email protected]> typed:
:
: > Will Microsoft ever release a bi-directional firewall to
: > compete with
: > ZoneAlarm, Sygate and Computer Associates firewalls?
:
:
: Assuming that this isn't just a rhetorical question, I have no
: idea. I don't know what their plans are, and even if they have no
: plans to do so now, that could change in the future.
:
: --
: Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: Please reply to the newsgroup
:
:
:
: > : >> In : >> Gary S. Terhune <[email protected]> typed:
: >>
: >>> OK, but what if, despite all of your precautions, a nasty
: >>> manages to
: >>> sneak by your protective procedures--something new and
: >>> totally
: >>> unexpected or planned for by any of your various AV and
: >>> antispyware
: >>> scanners?
: >>>
: >>> It *does* happen. And if you are sans firewall protection for
: >>> outgoing
: >>> communications, you won't even *know* it's happening.
: >>
: >>
: >> My sentiments exactly. There's no cost to running a better
: >> firewall (many are free) and since there is no guarantee that
: >> "protective procedures" are ever perfect, the prudent thing to
: >> do
: >> is to run a bi-directional firewall.
: >>
: >> --
: >> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: >> Please reply to the newsgroup
: >>
: >>
: >>> message
: >>> : >>>> "Fred S" <"Fred S" wrote:
: >>>>
: >>>>> You should drop the Windows firewall and use Zone Alarm or
: >>>>> even
: >>>>> CA's EZ Armor which is an older version of ZA.
: >>>>
: >>>>> Windows firewall is better than nothing but only blocks
: >>>>> INcoming
: >>>>> traffic. Many viruses and rogue programs get on your PC and
: >>>>> try to
: >>>>> go OUT and the Windows firewall will not even look at them.
: >>>>
: >>>> I prefer to use means other than my firewall to keep the
: >>>> crud
: >>>> from
: >>>> every getting on my machine in the first place.
: >>>>
: >>>>> ZA is Free, so is Sygate, which is also very good - each of
: >>>>> these is
: >>>>> better than the Windows firewall.
: >>>>
: >>>> They stop crud already on your machine from phoning home. I
: >>>> prefer
: >>>> to keep the crud off my machine in the first place so that
: >>>> it
: >>>> never
: >>>> even gets the opportunity to phone home. For someone like
: >>>> me,
: >>>> who
: >>>> knows how to avoid crudware and also has other software
: >>>> already
: >>>> running as first and second lines of defenses and early
: >>>> warning
: >>>> systems, using a third party firewall is -- please excuse
: >>>> the
: >>>> crude
: >>>> analogy --like wearing a condom when you don't even plan to
: >>>> have sex.
: >>>>
: >>>> Ken
:
:

 

[Dan]

Which IT (Information Technology) company did you help, Hugh Candlin if you
are able and willing to share this information?

"Bill Gates himself has forecast the death of Microsoft
if they allowed the company to become complacent
and rest on its laurels, which is exactly what they
appear to be doing."

Exactly, and that is why the 9x source code needs to be reworked and
continued as a Classics line or allowed to go open source for the benefit of
all consumers and the U.S. (United States) as a whole. <smile>

:
: : >
: > And we're all waiting with bated breath for the better OS that you seem
: > to think you're capable of developing.
:
: Given the resources available to Microsoft,
: and using the new hardware architecture
: developed by IBM and others as a baseline,
: I am indeed capable of project managing
: the development of a better OS and browser.
:
: Let there be NO doubt in your mind about that.
:
: Many, many other developers worldwide think likewise,
: which is why there is so much resentment toward MS.
: It is something that they bring down on their own head,
: through their proven inability to innovate, and their
: refusal to think outside the box and step outside
: the safety net of their current moribund architecture.
:
: Bill Gates himself has forecast the death of Microsoft
: if they allowed the company to become complacent
: and rest on its laurels, which is exactly what they
: appear to be doing.
:
: I have challenged a major IT vendor in the past,
: worked with their software engineers
: and proved to them that their OS was flawed,
: and personally made significant changes to the design
: which resulted in outstanding improvements.
:
: I speak with the benefit of experience, with the confidence
: that I can practice what I preach. Your response,
: on the other hand, is devoid of any meritorious content.
:
: I anticipate that a revolutionary OS announcement
: will be made in the not too distant future.
:
: It will not be from Microsoft, unless they are running
: one of the best cloak-and-dagger development
: operations ever mounted.
:
: