Businesses delay Vista plans until 2009

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thai bear

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/07/11/29/businesses-delay-vista-plans-until-2009

Businesses remain unconvinced about the benefits of moving to Microsoft's
Windows Vista operating system and most are delaying any plans to upgrade
until 2009 at the earliest.

One year after the business launch of Vista, only one of silicon.com's
12-strong CIO Jury IT user panel said they had plans to move to the new OS
in 2008.

Most plan to stick with the stability of Windows XP and implement Service
Pack 3 for that OS before they even start thinking about Vista.

Adrian Hughes, head of IS for insurance company Amlin, said: "We are
sticking with XP and look to take XP SP3 in 2009. Vista not until 2011,
unless there is a good reason to migrate, by which time the next OS may be
out so we would then skip a generation."

The Maritime & Coastguard Agency isn't planning to upgrade to Vista for two
to three years.
 
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

The point is, they will be deploying Windows, not Linux and they will be
deploying Vista, so its a win-win for Microsoft either way. This typical of
most coporate deployments.
 
R

ray

Businesses delay Vista plans until 2009

Theyb should wait until wondows 7, vista is crap and
only dumb people like vista

I believe you overstate the problem. There are evidently a number of folks
using vista quite comfortably.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"only dumb people like vista"
And yet another of your generalizations.
You simply can not comprehend the FACT others successfully use what
you fail with.

Your inability to use Windows Vista has no bearing on the FACT many
are able to successfully use windows.

Your generalizations describe yourself more than anyone else.
 
C

Charlie Tame

Andre said:
The point is, they will be deploying Windows, not Linux and they will be
deploying Vista, so its a win-win for Microsoft either way. This typical of
most coporate deployments.


No, the point is they are keeping their options open, until Microsoft
get the check nothing is certain, and it may have been typical until now
but that also is not guaranteed. No organization can guarantee what
circumstances they will find themselves in a year from now. Plans do not
always work out.

Why you remain unconcerned about the fact that competition is becoming
more and more capable, a fact that Microsoft themselves appear to be
concerned about but seem unable to identify the cause of, is quite
surprising.

Pride often comes before a fall, an old saying but nonetheless true.

The single most important thing any business portrays to it's clients is
attitude. Enough said.
 
X

xfile

Well said. In fact, you are the one who really cares about MS.

Andre is the kind of person who will bring down a company.
 
X

xfile

The point is, they will be deploying Windows, not Linux and they will be
deploying Vista, so its a win-win for Microsoft either way.

Read that again. So, you are writing "unbiased" reviews?
 
X

xfile

As a last note,

I mentioned in another thread that I never thought people are stupid - I
meant it.

Whenever I came to this newsgroup, I always have a thought about if people
know how big the world really is and how many talents and wise person out
there? I don't know either but I know it's more than my tiny brain can
take.

People are not stupid. Stupid people are those who think so.

Best wishes for bye for now.
 
C

Charlie Tame

I care about the jobs of thousands of people who work there sure, may
sound a bit old and cliched but there are some things that only
Governments and big corporations can afford to do and we all need to
move forward - better Microsoft than any Government - but I think some
at Microsoft should lose their jobs, the totally counter productive
ones, and the same applies to Governments.

You can't keep on denying problems and living on past successes, nobody
can to that.

Things change - how often you hear it said in these groups that all it
needs is new hardware, minimal investment etc etc. Problem is there are
an increasing number of people who can afford NO investment, and the US
appears to me to be heading toward a recession. It is not going to get
dramatically better any time soon.

So you are running a business with customers, even some very big ones,
watching expenditure very carefully, you are selling things that have
perfectly viable but FREE alternatives. There are physical limits to how
much farther your technology can be pushed and limits to what "Extra"
you can provide over what the other guy is offering. The technology
already out in the market can supply more than 90% of customer needs.

Is this a good time to get arrogant with customers and try to tell them
what they can and cannot do? Is it a good time to say to your
prospective purchaser "Our product is fine, you must be a cheapskate or
a dumbass"???

I think not :)

Competition is not only good it is essential, both the proprietary
market and the open source communities can exist - probably both
innovate better if the competition was more "Friendly" and less about
litigation - from which only lawyers make money - and in the end if one
side needs a kick in the backside so be it :)
 
X

xfile

I agree with everything you said especially,
You can't keep on denying problems and living on past successes, nobody
can to that.

Andrew Grove, one of my role models even he is not the richest, once said:
Only the Paranoid Survive.

Take care and I am leaving the newsgroup for now.


Charlie Tame said:
I care about the jobs of thousands of people who work there sure, may sound
a bit old and cliched but there are some things that only Governments and
big corporations can afford to do and we all need to move forward - better
Microsoft than any Government - but I think some at Microsoft should lose
their jobs, the totally counter productive ones, and the same applies to
Governments.

You can't keep on denying problems and living on past successes, nobody
can to that.

Things change - how often you hear it said in these groups that all it
needs is new hardware, minimal investment etc etc. Problem is there are an
increasing number of people who can afford NO investment, and the US
appears to me to be heading toward a recession. It is not going to get
dramatically better any time soon.

So you are running a business with customers, even some very big ones,
watching expenditure very carefully, you are selling things that have
perfectly viable but FREE alternatives. There are physical limits to how
much farther your technology can be pushed and limits to what "Extra" you
can provide over what the other guy is offering. The technology already
out in the market can supply more than 90% of customer needs.

Is this a good time to get arrogant with customers and try to tell them
what they can and cannot do? Is it a good time to say to your prospective
purchaser "Our product is fine, you must be a cheapskate or a dumbass"???

I think not :)

Competition is not only good it is essential, both the proprietary market
and the open source communities can exist - probably both innovate better
if the competition was more "Friendly" and less about litigation - from
which only lawyers make money - and in the end if one side needs a kick in
the backside so be it :)


Well said. In fact, you are the one who really cares about MS.

Andre is the kind of person who will bring down a company.


Charlie Tame said:
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
The point is, they will be deploying Windows, not Linux and they will
be deploying Vista, so its a win-win for Microsoft either way. This
typical of most coporate deployments.

No, the point is they are keeping their options open, until Microsoft
get the check nothing is certain, and it may have been typical until now
but that also is not guaranteed. No organization can guarantee what
circumstances they will find themselves in a year from now. Plans do not
always work out.

Why you remain unconcerned about the fact that competition is becoming
more and more capable, a fact that Microsoft themselves appear to be
concerned about but seem unable to identify the cause of, is quite
surprising.

Pride often comes before a fall, an old saying but nonetheless true.

The single most important thing any business portrays to it's clients is
attitude. Enough said.
 

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