Brewing your own Beer

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feckit said:
So if your at a beer fest and you see someone talking to theirselves come and say hello it could be me:rolleyes: :eek:

:lol: :lol:

I have seen you, I'm sure ;)

BigJay said:
If anyone needs me to test any home-made cider, I am more than happy to offer my services.

I made some home made cider once that made everybody want to fight everybody else. No kidding, it wuz lethal :eek: So I never made that one again, all that blood, tsk tsk..........
 

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Me__2001 said:
if anyone wants a copy of the ebook i have the link is Here (1.1MB),

might even be the same one that flopps has

Thanks Me_2001, I downloaded the book & it's fascinating although the wine making looks awfully scary as well :blush:
So much specialised equipment. & I'm barely half way through the wine section.
Down here I can go buy a home brewwing kit at any supermarket, but I never seen anywhere selling equipment for making wine :(
I guess NZ has never had a tradition for making home made wines.
I will have to have a really thoughrough read & see just how much of the equipment can be improvised. So far the airlock looks the trickiest. I'm sure we can improvise the press, but I've certainly never seen any kind of specialised yeasts for wine making.
Definitely got the brain ticking over :D
 
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ciri, it really ain't that hard

got to the stage where I'd make a gallon of wine from grape juice, took three weeks, one week more to settle, filter it, then just drink it straight from demijohn (gallon jar) cos it didn't last that long, weren't worth bottling ;)
 

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floppybootstomp said:
ciri, it really ain't that hard

got to the stage where I'd make a gallon of wine from grape juice, took three weeks, one week more to settle, filter it, then just drink it straight from demijohn (gallon jar) cos it didn't last that long, weren't worth bottling ;)


:D

Now that sounds more like what I had in mind :nod:
 
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Rush said:
Ok i was given a kit for my birthday last september ...says it makes 40 pints , cant see it really as the tin is not that big...What next ;)

You do need the fermenter, or you'll never get over the physics problem and on to the brewing. (or maybe you'll figure out how to put 40 pints into that tin and win the Nobel prize, who am I to judge?)

The best idea, if you will be repeating the offence (er, brew) is to get a glass tank. The problem with plastic is that it absorbs all of the flavors of your first brew, and gives them back the next time. It also gives a slight plastic flavor to the beer, unless you rinse it with dilute vinegar 2-3 times, or a very mild perchlorate, then finish with repeated oxygenating rinses with some type of percarbonate sterilization agent.

You will need a air lock (basically a tiny version of a P-trap, like your house plumbing) to keep the random bacteria and yeasts out while allowing the escape of the fermentation's carbon dioxide. Some of you might think, when I say "bacteria" that I mean your house isn't clean.. No, generally that type of bacteria ignores brews. The most common agents that like to sour a batch are lactobacillus (from milk products), vinegar bacteria (acetobacter), or penicillin (green fuzz) variants. You'll get "off" flavors, or, at worst, a ruined batch.

The two key words of fermentation are:

-sterility
-termperature

Of course there are other factors, such as ingredients and darkness, but without those two above, you won't normally have a good result.

When making a beer, there are several steps, or "rests" to be taken in the cooking process, to allow for the breakdown or "conversion" of various components of the grains, as well as the mixing of adjuncts such as rice, and the extraction of complex organics from hops and other fravoring components.

(Remember, yeast eats sugar and poops alcohol, and farts carbon dioxide. If you can read this and still drink beer, then you're a brewer. Read on!)

There are generally two types of starches and proteins to be broken down into convertible sugars. The first to go is maltose (from the "malt" in beer, which is partially roasted barley). At higher temperatures, amylase is converted to sugars and to complex chains of loosely coupled hydrocarbons which add "body" or what's known by brewers as "mouthfeel". Lastly, any proteins available are broken down at high temperatures. They don't contribute to beer, and depending on your ingredients, may not be a factor, but loose unconverted proteins are not positive to fermentation.

If you have a "kit" then the extraction has already been done for you. Chances are you only need to heat water (the kit should tell you how hot) and mix in the malts, let them sit for the prescribed length of time, add some hops, and let cool. Since you don't have a mash tun with a chiller, just let it sit in the fermenter. Once cooled to room temperature, add the yeast (proof dry yeast with 1/2 l of 40 deg C boiled and cooled sugar water until it begins to bubble before adding), seal, and put in a calm dark cool place. Check it every few hours at the beginning to make sure the yeast has properly started (bubbling starts in the liquid) and make sure you have a catch bucket around the bottom of the fermenter since these kits have a tendency to have a lot of available simple sugars and will (at times literally) explode with fermentation once they get started. Let ferment until bubbling stops.

I don't know your kit's exact method of carbonation, so follow directions. It's either a CO2 or nitrogen cartridge and a pressure vessel, or bottles and corn sugar to bottle ferment (Belgian style).

Well, time to get to work. More later.

Cheers
FB
 
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Hmmmm home breewww

Fred B you are a star:thumb:
How can i do moonshine? Only joking:D
Any advice on brewing the unusal will be most helpful:bow:
 
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feckit said:
Fred B you are a star:thumb:
How can i do moonshine? Only joking:D
Any advice on brewing the unusal will be most helpful:bow:

Moonshine (brewed using wheat and/or rye to make whisk(e)y - by the way, "whisky" is generally applied to Scotch or Irish distillations, and "whiskey" to American equivalents - or potatoes, which are high in natural starch, or other starchy, low-flavor ingredients - is easy to make: just use the strongest yeast you can, usually a champagne yeast, that can make up to 21-22% alcohol, then boil it under a glass or food grade plastic vapor condenser or in a column filled with marbles. Pot distilling, as opposed to continuous reflux column distillation, requires a bit of finesse with the boiling temperature, as well as the discards.

Brewing and boiling will produce a small amount of "other" hydrocarbons in addition to ethanol, specifically methanol. It evaporates at about 5 degrees lower temperature than the ethanol, so make sure to discard the "head" until the thermometer in the vapor column reaches 100 degrees F. Methanol is toxic (well, so is ethanol, really, but methanol will kill you quickly and in small doses).

At the end, once the temperature starts to rise above 100 degrees, the complex organics start to boil off. A small amount of these is what flavors alcohols other than vodka or pure grain alcohol (note, it's not what COLORS them or provides the aromas or finish tongue flavoring - that's the aging process and the barrels) but too high a temp or too long allowing them to flow will allow cogeners (long organic chains) to contaminate your liquor; their chief effect, besides slight flavoring, is to give the drinker a headache.


Unusual brewing? Well, I'm not a beer expert, actually, I brew ciders, cysers, melomels, meads, and the odd fruit wine. I've never made dandelion wine, mostly due to the lack of dandelions in the desert. Cactus fruit mead, and pomegranate mead, however...

Questions? Please ask! Recipe requests? sure! Though I create food recipes more than brewing recipes, and I am, in truth, hoping to publish a cookbook in the not too distant future.

Cheers
FB


Mango Coconut ice cream
1 c Sugar
2 lg Eggs (Pasteurized)
4 c Canned coconut milk (puree and strain 1 lg mango to add in)


Prior to making, place all ingredients, and the bowl, in the freezer until very cold.


In a bowl, cream together the sugar and eggs until pale in color, about 5 minutes. Beat in the coconut milk.


Place in ice cream maker, and start. Allow to run until quite thick before adding mango puree. Finish the process, and freeze.


Allow to warm slightly before serving. Homemade ice cream makers don't spin as fast as the commercial units, so the resulting product tends to be harder and more compact. The flavor is still just as good!
 
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Marrow Rum

I used to make marrow rum, hollow out a large marrow & then mulch the inside of the pulp you have extracted. Put in a bowl and mix with brown sugar, put back into marrow and seal top. And wait 4 for 5 days, pour & enjoy!

This stuff has an aquired taste but, hey this is homebrew on the cheap:thumb: ;)
 

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