boot problem(i need urgent help, please)

[Guest]

Hi all!
our problem is: we have a new config. we've installed XP but it doesn't work
properly.we set the device priority, first was the HD, second the CDROM and
then we got the message: disk boot failure, please insert system disk and
press enter.so we changed the device priority again 1st was the CDROM....then
accidentally we left the motherboard's setup disk in the drive and it started
booting.later we tried the same with the XP's disk, it worked, but we still
get the next message:
1.FD 1.44MB System-type(06)
Loading Free DOS fat kernel go!
Press any key to boot from CDROM

when we don't press anything it boots from the HD, when we press a key it
enters to DOS.but never without any of the mentioned disks.I have no idea
what is wrong with it.
If anyone could help me I would be the happiest person all over the
world.thank you

 

[NewScience]

Do you have anything in the floppy drive? Do you have a floppy drive?

 

[Guest]

this is another nice story.basically we have one.but the system recognised
two.so we had A and B drives.we never used it so it's just not possible that
we left insedie something.and the B one just doesn't exist."????"so both of
them are disabled now, because every time when we turned the computer down we
got a message about something in the B drive what is not possible.so
temporarily this problem seems to be solved.

well, there's nothig left in the floppy drive, and we don't use it at all.

 

[NewScience]

Who installed XP? Did they use a Floppy setup disk to boot from and then to
access the XP installation disk to finish the installation? Somehow, the
system thinks that the bootsector is on the floppy drive FD.

How did you disable the drives from the BIOS?

You should be able to setup in the system BIOS to disable A and B (or do not
detect floppy).
This must be an old BIOS or motherboard if it's still checking for the two
floppy drives.

 

[Gordon]

This must be an old BIOS or motherboard if it's still checking for the two
floppy drives.

About 1985 or prior? The old IBM XT was the last machine to have no hard
Disk and two floppies that /I/ used....AFAIR.....

 

[Guest]

disable the diskette drives from the bios first since we will be booting from
cds.

in the event that u will get the same msg (1.fd 1.44mb...), dont be
surprised. bios inherently doesnt have the capability to boot from cds/dvds.
an easy way to explain this is that it somewhat fools itself (bios) that the
cd in the drive is a diskette by recognizing the first 1.44~2.88 part of the
bootable disc. it then loads the dos drivers necessary to be able access the
full contents of the disc. u will observe this with the older win98
installation disc, it only has a diskette's worth of utilities loaded on
ramdrive.

also, are you using an original winxp installation disc? i happen to
recognize the line "freedos" and microsoft have its own dos if they will have
to use it. typically, i find free dos bootups from linux distribution discs.

just continue reinstallation. it doesnt matter if the the cdd/dvd is after
hdd. if the hdd doesnt have boot files on it, it should skip and go try to
locate boot files on the cd/dvd drive. once copying from the disc to the hdd
is complete, it will restart to continue installation but this time, from the
hdd.

hope it helps.

 

[Guest]

Did you guys read my basic problem?then it starts to boot from the HD, but
not without one of the mentioned disks.and when it happens we got that
message before the XP starts up.by the way the setup disk is original.after
these we can remove the disk, it works.


Config: Asus A8N-E, AMD Athlon 3000+ S939, 2HDs: western digital 120GB(this
has a partition for Win) & western digital 160GB S-ATA(this is for data)

The floppy drive had been disabled from windows, not from BIOS.

 

[Guest]

otherwise thank you for trying to help but the issue what you're talking
about is not the same with my probelm.I'm still waiting for any ideas.THX

P.S.:someone told me, that I might have problem with boot.ini and its
settings.is it possible, and how can i solve it?

 

[Andy]

In BIOS setup under the boot menu should be a Hard Disk Drives
setting. Try changing the order of the drives listed there.

 

[NewScience]

You state: we have a new config.

When you installed XP, did you format the drive and install from scratch.
Was anything on this drive prior to installing XP? Any other OS? Windows 98,
NT, 2000? Linux? Solaris?

Any underlying Disk Management programs from WD or such?

Loading Free DOS fat kernel go!

Has nothing to do with Windows XP ... in any shape or form.
Windows XP does not even use fat anymore ... FAT32 or NTFS ... and it's not
call Free DOS fat kernel.

 

[Guest]

We changed the motherboard and the CPU.Before that the XP was on the same
partition.After these changings we did format the hard drive,installed XP
again (there was not any another OP.Since we have computer, we've used XP,
nothing else.) and now we have this unknown error.

I repeat more simply:
it boots only when the CDROM is the first device in BIOS and only with the
following diks:XP setup disk or Asus setup disk(for the motherboard)
I really don't know if it's possible or not but we get the same message
every time[1.FD 1.44MB System-type(06)

Loading Free DOS fat kernel go!
Press any key to boot from CDROM ]

Then we don't do anything, and it starts booting from the hard drive.

Otherwise, if these things are not set(CDROM is not the first or any of the
disks is not in the drive) ISK BOOT FAILURE PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND
PRESS ENTER

So, it's working but has this error and I really don't know what to do.We've
already checked the simpliest things like no floppy in the drive etc...We've
asked so many people and yet nobody knows what is this.

 

[NewScience]

Still trying to figure this out. This is really got me stumped.

When you install XP after the upgrade (CPU and Motherboard), did you just
put the Microsoft Windows XP CD in the drive, reboot and it took off?

Or did you have to use anything prior to that in order for the CD to be read
into memory (e.g., another disk that needed to be loaded, you then switched
out, and then put the Windows CD in the CD drive and install)?

We changed the motherboard and the CPU.Before that the XP was on the same
partition.After these changings we did format the hard drive,installed XP
again (there was not any another OP.Since we have computer, we've used XP,
nothing else.) and now we have this unknown error.

I repeat more simply:
it boots only when the CDROM is the first device in BIOS and only with the
following diks:XP setup disk or Asus setup disk(for the motherboard)
I really don't know if it's possible or not but we get the same message
every time[1.FD 1.44MB System-type(06)

Loading Free DOS fat kernel go!
Press any key to boot from CDROM ]

Then we don't do anything, and it starts booting from the hard drive.

Otherwise, if these things are not set(CDROM is not the first or any of
the
disks is not in the drive) ISK BOOT FAILURE PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISK
AND
PRESS ENTER

So, it's working but has this error and I really don't know what to
do.We've
already checked the simpliest things like no floppy in the drive
etc...We've
asked so many people and yet nobody knows what is this.

 

[Guest]

I installed the opsystem from the cd-rom, after that the motherboard chipset
drivers from the motherboards installation cd, after that the SP2, after that
the vga driver. after all these, i wanted to switch back the boot priority so
that the hard drive would be the first boot device, but this failed. and ever
since we are facing this problem.

 

[Gordon]

I installed the opsystem from the cd-rom, after that the motherboard
chipset drivers from the motherboards installation cd, after that the SP2,
after that the vga driver. after all these, i wanted to switch back the
boot priority so that the hard drive would be the first boot device, but
this failed. and ever since we are facing this problem.

When you install XP, it asks you right at the beginning if you need to
install any additional drivers FIRST.......perhaps you should have done so
then....

 

[Guest]

it never asked me about this before. the first thing what i install after
the windows is on, is the motherboard chipset driver. second is SP2 is
because of the updates that are needed, and after that everithing else.

is this method wrong? what do you think i should install first?

 

[Gordon]

it never asked me about this before. the first thing what i install after
the windows is on, is the motherboard chipset driver. second is SP2 is
because of the updates that are needed, and after that everithing else.

is this method wrong? what do you think i should install first?

When you first boot from the XP CD and when it starts to copy files, at the
bottom of the dialog box there's a message telling you to press a key
(can't tell you which one as I've never had to use it) if you need to
install drivers.

Having said that, you must have a very obscure Motherboard for XP not to
have the drivers built-in.....

 

[Guest]

Thanks for everyone who tried to help, the problem is sorted now.
I cleared the CMOS then installed XP again, and it's working

 

[Guest]

since u have stated earlier that once u forgot to remove the motherboard
driver disc inside the drive when this started to happen, are you using an
asus motherboard?

there was a time asus used freedos on some of their p4 bioses and driver
discs (for bios update).

though its possible that by updating the bios could resolve this conflict,
but i suggest resetting the bios first then try again.