Boot from Floppy or cd with a pci card?

L

Larry

I have an old computer,
a Dell Dimension 2100, I want to put two new hard drives on it.
The computer won't accept the hard drives, they are 100 Gig
(the original dirves were 20 gig).

I have tried a couple of PCI Adaptor cards, but they do not let me
boot from the floppy or the CD. When the adapator card is plugged into the
computer, I can only boot from the drives that are connected to the
adaptor card. Even if there are no drives plugged into the adaptor
card, I still cannot boot from a floppy or CD. I have to removed the
adaptor card from the computer in order to boot from the floppy or cd.

Is there an adaptor card that will allow me to boot from the floppy or cd.

The reason I want to boot from a floppy or cd, is that I want to be able to
run Ghost and make a ghost image of the boot drive to a second drive.
Is this possible?

Thank You,
Laurence
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

Rod Speed said:
What actually happens when it 'wont accept' the new drives ?



Can you disable the bios on the card ? That may fix the boot problem.

You may also be able to configure the card so it doent boot anything too.
Yes, most dont give that result.

Right, he just managed to pick all the bad ones.
 
R

Rod Speed

Larry said:
I have an old computer, a Dell Dimension 2100, I want to put two new hard drives on it.
The computer won't accept the hard drives,

What actually happens when it 'wont accept' the new drives ?
they are 100 Gig (the original dirves were 20 gig).
I have tried a couple of PCI Adaptor cards, but they do not let me
boot from the floppy or the CD. When the adapator card is plugged
into the computer, I can only boot from the drives that are connected
to the adaptor card. Even if there are no drives plugged into the adaptor card, I still
cannot boot from a floppy or CD. I have to removed the
adaptor card from the computer in order to boot from the floppy or cd.

Can you disable the bios on the card ? That may fix the boot problem.

You may also be able to configure the card so it doent boot anything too.
Is there an adaptor card that will allow me to boot from the floppy or cd.

Yes, most dont give that result.
The reason I want to boot from a floppy or cd, is that I want to be able to run Ghost
and make a ghost image of the boot drive to a second drive.
Is this possible?

Yes.
 
L

Larry

What actually happens when it 'wont accept' the new drives ?


When I boot, and go into setup the Bios doesn't pick up the hard drive
that is plugged in.

there is no way to disable the bios on the card,
I took the card back anyway.

Before I buy another card, I wanted to make sure
that the card would work.

Do You know of a card that does definitely work
the way I want it to?

Thanks in Advance,

Larry
 
R

Rod Speed

When I boot, and go into setup the Bios doesn't pick up the hard drive that is plugged
in.

OK, thats guaranteed to be fixable.
there is no way to disable the bios on the card,
I took the card back anyway.
Before I buy another card, I wanted to make sure that the card would work.

You dont need a card, just fix what you are doing wrong
that prevents the bios from seeing the new drives.

It can be as basic as not having the drive type set
to AUTO or not having the drives jumpered properly.
Do You know of a card that does definitely work the way I want it to?

You dont need a card, just fix what you are doing wrong
that prevents the bios from seeing the new drives.
 
H

Horst Franke

In Larry typed:
Hi Larry, will try to rearrange Your posting to logical reading ;-(
Please reflect the logical sequence on Your next posting
= Reading from top to down.
When I boot, and go into setup the Bios doesn't pick up the hard
drive that is plugged in.
And WHAT Bios message was displayed? Or what else?
What about the jumpering?
Any set as master and the other as slave?
Or did You choose "cable select"?
Hello Larry, this looks like the BIOS limit of 32GB).
You should look for a BIOS update by Dell!

How much GB do You see? Difference of 100 - 32GB?

YES and this should be the HD connected to this adapter card!
You should have moved Your HD from EIDE to this adapter.
Most of the time it will be identified as SCSI (with extra BIOS).
But never mind, it will also handle IDE devices.

That's ok and looks like a faulty BIOS setup. If there's no drive
connected then You should be able to disable this adapter
within the BIOS.
there is no way to disable the bios on the card
What BIOS message did You see?
No need to do so as You would connect Your HD to it.
Else only disable this card within the BIOS detection.
I took the card back anyway.
No need to do so. Connect the HD to it instead.
Otherwise look for a Bios update. The 32GB limit is
somewhat old and should have been fixed nowadays.
The next limit would be at about 128 GB.

And what about Your basic booting sequence?
Where You able to boot from the HD (connected to what)?
Horst
 
R

Rod Speed

Horst Franke said:
Larry wrote
Hi Larry, will try to rearrange Your posting to logical reading ;-(
Please reflect the logical sequence on Your next posting
= Reading from top to down.

Take your jackboots and shove them up your arse, krautchild.
And WHAT Bios message was displayed? Or what else?
What about the jumpering?
Any set as master and the other as slave?
Or did You choose "cable select"?
Hello Larry, this looks like the BIOS limit of 32GB).

Nope, that normally sees the system lockup.
You should look for a BIOS update by Dell!
How much GB do You see? Difference of 100 - 32GB?

You dont get that effect either and he clearly says that the
drive isnt even seen, so there is no difference to see either.
YES and this should be the HD connected to this adapter card!
You should have moved Your HD from EIDE to this adapter.

That's what he's saying he did.
Most of the time it will be identified as SCSI (with extra BIOS).
But never mind, it will also handle IDE devices.
That's ok and looks like a faulty BIOS setup. If there's no drive connected then

No point if you want to have the HD on it.
You should be able to disable this adapter within the BIOS.

No point if you want to have the HD on it.
What BIOS message did You see?
No need to do so as You would connect Your HD to it.
Else only disable this card within the BIOS detection.
No need to do so. Connect the HD to it instead.
Otherwise look for a Bios update. The 32GB limit is
somewhat old and should have been fixed nowadays.

It aint the 32G limit, that produces a lockup with drives over 32G.
The next limit would be at about 128 GB.
And what about Your basic booting sequence?
Where You able to boot from the HD (connected to what)?

He already said that.
 

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