Boot from a External Drive - Possible?

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Kerry Brown

RLMuller said:
Thanks Kerry for perhaps the most positive and helpful post to my
question.
I've picked up a 160GB external drive with a USB2 interface. I'll see how
it goes.

Regards,
Richard

Your welcome. Hope it works for you. If not then you have a great backup
drive. You could always use BartPe or the Ultimate Boot CD to repair the
partitions and copy files to the USB drive from the corrupted drives. I
think you may have more luck with this method.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

Kerry
 
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Pavel A.

Richard,

WinXP can not run off USB drive. Never, ever :(
A setup of WinXP or recovery console can run from a CD,
so you can use it to repair the installed system.

External SATA disk in a box, connected to internal controller,
is actually an internal disk, like SCSI, so it will work.

Good luck,
--PA
 
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RLMuller

Thanks for the additional info, Pavel.

Based on various comments, I checked to see whether any on my BIOSs would
let me specify booting from a USB port. None would. So even though I
bought the 160GB external drive, I've abandoned that idea. (I'll use it
for off-site backup of key data and software.)

I just ordered a 200GB Maxtor that has both ATA and EIDE interfaces. I've
got a card that matches it for both interfaces and the 133mbps transfer
rate. The only wrinke is the card doesn't support the full 120GB, but I
can switch it to another another drive and use the motherboard for the 200gb
connection (maybe with a bios upgrade).

Anyway, I can get that disk set up with an OS using my Win2000Pro computer,
which thankfully I haven't screwed up. Then I can transfer the disk and
card to each dead computer successively and get them running again without
any loss of data.

I see just one problem: If I install Win2kPro or WinXP-Pro on the Maxtor,
it will include the HAL appropriate to my Win2KPro machine. Will that disk
work correctly on my dead WinXP-Pro and Win2kAS machines.

If not, then I'll install Linux on the Maxtor and create some NT
partitions, copy data from one of the dead machines onto it and then
install the appropriate Windows setup disk on the machine to reinstall
Windows on that machine.

How's that sound?

I hope this diatribe wasn't too long winded for you.

Regards,
Richard

My co
 
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Ted Zieglar

My post was a follow on from Carey's post.

There are no 'rules' for what this or any newsgroup can discuss, but if you
want to expose your question to a forum where you are most likely to find
the greatest number of people who are knowledgable on your topic, it
wouldn't be here.
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

A very simple solution is to perform a "repair install" on
the computer that is having problems.

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

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:

| Thanks for the additional info, Pavel.
|
| Based on various comments, I checked to see whether any on my BIOSs would
| let me specify booting from a USB port. None would. So even though I
| bought the 160GB external drive, I've abandoned that idea. (I'll use it
| for off-site backup of key data and software.)
|
| I just ordered a 200GB Maxtor that has both ATA and EIDE interfaces. I've
| got a card that matches it for both interfaces and the 133mbps transfer
| rate. The only wrinke is the card doesn't support the full 120GB, but I
| can switch it to another another drive and use the motherboard for the 200gb
| connection (maybe with a bios upgrade).
|
| Anyway, I can get that disk set up with an OS using my Win2000Pro computer,
| which thankfully I haven't screwed up. Then I can transfer the disk and
| card to each dead computer successively and get them running again without
| any loss of data.
|
| I see just one problem: If I install Win2kPro or WinXP-Pro on the Maxtor,
| it will include the HAL appropriate to my Win2KPro machine. Will that disk
| work correctly on my dead WinXP-Pro and Win2kAS machines.
|
| If not, then I'll install Linux on the Maxtor and create some NT
| partitions, copy data from one of the dead machines onto it and then
| install the appropriate Windows setup disk on the machine to reinstall
| Windows on that machine.
|
| How's that sound?
|
| I hope this diatribe wasn't too long winded for you.
|
| Regards,
| Richard
|
| My co
|
|
|
| | > Richard,
| >
| > WinXP can not run off USB drive. Never, ever :(
| > A setup of WinXP or recovery console can run from a CD,
| > so you can use it to repair the installed system.
| >
| > External SATA disk in a box, connected to internal controller,
| > is actually an internal disk, like SCSI, so it will work.
| >
| > Good luck,
| > --PA
| >
| >
| | > > Hi Pavel,
| > >
| > > Thanks for the response. I've got a 160GB USB-interfaced drive with its
| own
| > > power adapter.
| > >
| > > Regards,
| > > Richard
| > >
| > > | > >> What external drive: SATA? Firewire?
| > >>
| > >> --PA
| > >>
| > > | > >> > Hi,
| > >> >
| > >> > I was running a three-computer workgroup: Win2kPro, Win2kAS and
| > > WinXP-Pro.
| > >> > I stupidly hosed the latter two machines. I wrecked the XP machine
| by
| > >> > making a mistake when trying to use Partition Magic to expanded XP
| > >> > partition. The AS machine somehow lost NTLDR. All machines have
| > > multiple
| > >> > NT partitions.
| > >> >
| > >> > I bought an external hard drive with goal of installing an OS on that
| > > drive
| > >> > using my still-working machine, then moving it successively to each
| of
| > > dead
| > >> > machines in order to recover important data from their hard drives
| > > before
| > >> > trying to reinstall OSs on them.
| > >> >
| > >> > If that seems workable, I assume I should install Linux on the
| external
| > >> > drive because it could read NT partitions. Id rather put XP on the
| > > external
| > >> > drive when attached to my 2K machine, but fear that HAL from the 2K
| > > machine
| > >> > qould be inappropriate when installing the external drive and booting
| > > from
| > >> > it on the other machines.
| > >> >
| > >> > Does any of this make any sense?
| > >> >
| > >> > Thanks in advance,
| > >> > Richard
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Kerry Brown

RLMuller said:
Thanks for the additional info, Pavel.

Based on various comments, I checked to see whether any on my BIOSs would
let me specify booting from a USB port. None would. So even though I
bought the 160GB external drive, I've abandoned that idea. (I'll use it
for off-site backup of key data and software.)

I just ordered a 200GB Maxtor that has both ATA and EIDE interfaces. I've
got a card that matches it for both interfaces and the 133mbps transfer
rate. The only wrinke is the card doesn't support the full 120GB, but I
can switch it to another another drive and use the motherboard for the
200gb
connection (maybe with a bios upgrade).

Anyway, I can get that disk set up with an OS using my Win2000Pro
computer,
which thankfully I haven't screwed up. Then I can transfer the disk and
card to each dead computer successively and get them running again without
any loss of data.

I see just one problem: If I install Win2kPro or WinXP-Pro on the Maxtor,
it will include the HAL appropriate to my Win2KPro machine. Will that
disk
work correctly on my dead WinXP-Pro and Win2kAS machines.

If not, then I'll install Linux on the Maxtor and create some NT
partitions, copy data from one of the dead machines onto it and then
install the appropriate Windows setup disk on the machine to reinstall
Windows on that machine.

How's that sound?

I hope this diatribe wasn't too long winded for you.

Regards,
Richard

My co

If you only want to copy some files why not just boot from a CD with the
Ultimate Boot CD, BartPe, Knoppix etc. Any of these could be used to copy
files to a USB drive. This will be much easier than your proposed solution.
Your way unless the motherboards are very similar you will probably have to
do a repair install with each system just to get it to boot.

Kerry
 
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RLMuller

Hi Ted,

I'm sorry, I interpreted the comment as flaming.

It seems to me the a discussion about mounting an external drive,
intializing it with WinXP, and trying to boot from it is very much relevant
to this NG. What NGs do you think would elicit a greater response?

BTW, notice that there have been dozens of responses in this thread.

Regards,
Richard Muller
 
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RLMuller

Hi Carey,

Thanks for responding again. I looked briefly at the "repair install" site,
but it looks to me that I need to be able to boot with my WinXP-Pro CD on my
dead machine. The BIOS Boot Sequence is set to Removble/CDROM/HardDrive.
The floppy drive is empty. The primary CDROM drive has my CD in it (and
I've booted from it in the past when I had an OS running on the machine.)

After I click F10 in BIOS Setup I get the Intel graphic and then a blank
black screen for a minute until "Boot Failure: System Halted" in white
letters appears.

So it looks like I can't implement that approach. Do you agree?

Regards,
Richad
 
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RLMuller

Hi Carey,

I've got just two questions:
1. It looks to me like I can burn the slipstream disk with the WinXP-Pro
and SP2forXP CDs' content on my Win2kProSP4 machine, i.e. there'll be no XP
stuff trying to interfere with my Win2kProSP4 OS.

2. After burning that CD, is there any hope that it will boot, given that
my current WinXP-Pro CD won't boot?

If you think this'll work, I'm off to the races!!

Regards,
Richard
 
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RLMuller

Hey Carey and PC,

I thought because the disk started up whenever I installed on a working
Windows system, it was bootable. I just looked at the disk in Windows
Explorer and recalled that it's the autorun.inf that a running system looks
for but there no executable image on the disk.

Considering I'm a retired software developer, it's pretty sad that I didn't
realize that a long time ago.

Thank you, guys, for persisting in getting me on the right track despite my
stubborn ignorance.

I'll follow the "...Create a bootable CD" guidance.

Regards,
Richard
 
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RLMuller

Hi Jim,

I thought having a bootable external drive would be the neatest solution in
the long term. I thought anytime a system crashed in the future, I'd have
a painless solution at recovery.

I just bought a 200GB internal hard drive and a controller card for it which
I'll use shorty on both dead systems, just as you suggest. (I don't think
I'll even have to change the jumpers on the two existing hard drives.)

Regards,
Richard
 

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