Big temp rise with new cpu - need advice please

[Alex Devlin]

The Temp. decreased from initially 78.5 degrees C with Intel gunk and
heaksink/fan to 70 degrees C with radio shack heatsink paste and
Intel heatsink/fan -----to 36.5 degrees C (nearly 10 degrees F) with
the thermalright XP-120 heat exchanger with a 120 mm fan (could have
put a faster fan with better CFM on). No throttling detected! I hope
you get to read this Alex. Thankssssssssssss!!!!!!!

Glad you got the temps down to something good
Glad I could help.

My sister comp has only one hard drive ( a 200 GB WD) primary ATA.
I'm wondering what kind of serial hard drive setup did you do? I've
never setup any up. I've spent enough on my sisters computer for now.
She owes enough ( every month she'll pay some). I also bought her
software to get her off on the right start. I thought Corel
WordPerfect Office 12 was a good value for her; it would go along with
her new PaintShop Pro 9. Then, I picked her up PC-cillin Internet
Security by Trend Micro. I added some good freeware I had. I have a
DVD-CD write/reader drive as her secondary master. She will need an
extra hard drive in the future. I'll keep my eyes open for good
rebates. I think she really only needs one more really large hard
drive that is serial ------- what speed can the P4P800 SE take as far
as SATA hard drives? How do you set up just one on this MB?

I have a 120GB SATA drive and a DVD burner set on IDE-1 as master. No
problems with them at all. Setting up was just plug it in and install
windows. It formats and does the install. Didn't need any extra software
installed for it to work.

Not sure what you mean about what speed SATA hard drives. Apart from the
rotation speed. I got one of these when I bought my board;
http://tinyurl.com/4rgny

When I'm rebuilding binaries with Quickpar I have a build rate of 500MB+
per second. Not sure how hast that is compared to other drives but it's
certainly faster than the last drive I had and I never wait for the drive
to catch up with me when I'm working on something. But I also have 1GB
ram so that means my swap file rarely gets used so the drive's ready for
data access when I need it.

With a big drive you have to keep it defragged. Forget the windows built
in one and use a third party one. I switch between using Perfectdisk and
O&O Software's defragger. Just now O&O is keeping the drive running
faster than Perfectdisk.

Glad everythings running as it should Randy!

 

[Alex Devlin]

Forgot to add...

Now you have it running ok with decent temps try a torture test.

I use the following;

Prime95 - http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm
Google Compute - http://toolbar.google.com/dc/offerdc.html
Einstein@home - http://www.physics2005.org/events/einsteinathome/
DVD Shrink - http://www.dvdshrink.org/what.html

Run Prime95 torture test.
Run Google compute
Run Einstein@home
Encode a DVD using DVD Shrink

Do all that at once and your cpu will be working it's tail off.

Watch the temps (cpu & motherboard) and use Throttle watch to check it's
behaving itself.

I'd say let it run for about 30 minutes to an hour. With what your sister
will be using it for that should be enough testing. You could let it run
for several hours just to be sure if you really want to.

Did you use Arctic Silver 5 paste? If so then your temps should drop over
the next few days/weeks. AS5 'cures' and the properties of it get better
over a few thermal cycles.

 

[Randy_O]

Thanks for the software links for checking my sister's new computer out.
Building it was torture enough; since the CPU no longer throttles and temps
are fine, I don't want to find anything else wrong with her machine. *<];o)
I'll keep the links, and download the software for myself especially for a
new build in the future. I'm thinking about cleaning up my P4P800 DLX, and
perhaps sticking in a new primary hard drive, new cpu, and adding new memory
(get 2 to 4 gigs) for video editing. To do all of this will cost big bucks,
sanity, and maybe screw up my Bios. Have you ever flashed a Bios on a
computer you built with all the hard drives formatted NTFS with ASUS mother
boards; I have only done a flash on a system where I had FAT 32 formatted
primary hard drive with Windows. How the heck can I do it; I've heard the
EZ flash method is not reliable, and I can't use a DOS formatted disks with
the way things are setup? You seem to know a heck of lot of stuff on
computer building - - especially software related. When I get a source of
brain power, I try to tap into it and get the info. I don't know --- you
seem willing to help Alex. Thanks again ----
Best Regards ---------- Randy O in WI
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[Randy_O]

One reason I can't do any of the stuff you mentioned Alex is that I must
take the computer to my sisters home, and install her antivirus software on
her server with her email address. I wish I would have picked a simpler
antivirus program than PC-cillin Internet Security by Trend Micro, but it
did have anti spyware and other goodies with it. I think it is way over her
head. I need to install it at her home because of some kind of verification
thingy -- passwords or something like that. I've also got to set her dialup
to her new external modem. Easy stuff, but she doesn't know this stuff. I
must activate her OS, and register all her software.

I did use the Artic Silver 5 paste, and I like what you said about it
getting better with time! The best to you and yours.

Sincerely ------Randy O in WI
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[Alex Devlin]

Thanks for the software links for checking my sister's new computer
out. Building it was torture enough; since the CPU no longer throttles
and temps are fine, I don't want to find anything else wrong with her
machine. *<];o) I'll keep the links, and download the software for
myself especially for a new build in the future. I'm thinking about
cleaning up my P4P800 DLX, and perhaps sticking in a new primary hard
drive, new cpu, and adding new memory (get 2 to 4 gigs) for video
editing. To do all of this will cost big bucks, sanity, and maybe
screw up my Bios. Have you ever flashed a Bios on a computer you
built with all the hard drives formatted NTFS with ASUS mother boards;
I have only done a flash on a system where I had FAT 32 formatted
primary hard drive with Windows. How the heck can I do it; I've heard
the EZ flash method is not reliable, and I can't use a DOS formatted
disks with the way things are setup?

You don't need to worry about your drives being NTFS. Go to
www.bootdisk.com and you can download a bootdisk for BIOS flashing. It's
an executable file that writes straight to floppy disk. Once you've done
that then copy the BIOS flash utility and the new BIOS file to the floppy
and you're good to go. When you boot with that it doesn't even need to
look at any of your drives so who cares if they're NTFS?

I have used the Asus software to flash from windowsXP without any
problems. Mainly because I don't have a floppy drive.

You seem to know a heck of lot
of stuff on computer building - - especially software related. When
I get a source of brain power, I try to tap into it and get the info.
I don't know --- you seem willing to help Alex. Thanks again ----
Best Regards ---------- Randy O in WI

I don't know half as much as some of the people in here. You just ask the
questions I 'DO' know

HTH

 

[Alex Devlin]

One reason I can't do any of the stuff you mentioned Alex is that I
must take the computer to my sisters home, and install her antivirus
software on her server with her email address. I wish I would have
picked a simpler antivirus program than PC-cillin Internet Security by
Trend Micro, but it did have anti spyware and other goodies with it.
I think it is way over her head. I need to install it at her home
because of some kind of verification thingy -- passwords or something
like that. I've also got to set her dialup to her new external modem.
Easy stuff, but she doesn't know this stuff. I must activate her OS,
and register all her software.

I did use the Artic Silver 5 paste, and I like what you said about it
getting better with time! The best to you and yours.

Sincerely ------Randy O in WI

There is some good free software out there that I use on my system. I use
AVG for virus and Spybot S&D for spyware. I used PC-Cillin years ago but
it missed a lot of stuff of started to give me false positives. AVG seems
to catch everything. I have a friend who has access to lots of different
virus scanners and I load them up to scan my system every few weeks to
see if there's anything hiding. So far AVG caught everything.

Keep well.

 

[Randy_O]

Now that is truly interesting because I visited that web site yesterday.
I've thought about that free software before; now, next time I need
antivirus I'll go that route --- esp. for a second build. Thanks again and
my best to you and yours ---------------
Randy O in WI
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[LoboMX]

I was googling about the P4 3E high temps when reached this thread, i
just bought my P4 3E 4 hours ago and as soon i arrived from work
took
my old P4 1.6 out and mounted the new one all went really smooth and
fast to boot up XP but as soon XP detected the new kid in the block
an ear -killing-high-pitch-neverending-buzz jumped from the case (1-2
minutes since power on) i though was the new cpu fan or something like
that since i readed a lot of tech doc telling about the big heat
source this "toy" was (geez i almost buy a P4 3.2 but a the guy
buying before me took the last one, and since my Toshiba Satellite
a70 used one of those and im burning my lap while typing this i thank
to that guy for getting that brimstone before me ), I opened the
easy4 tune tool for monitoring the cpu and system (im using a
GA-8TRS350MT which uses an ATI chipset) i was amazed about the cpu
core temp readed: 55C and just XP and services running but the buzz
was driving me crazy so i did shutdown the PC to figure out where the
buzz was originated, after 2-3 minutes booted up to BIOS (the buzz
showed up again) and found some really scary at the PC Health
section:

CPU TEMP: 60C (it reached and stalled at 64C in 2 seconds)

So i found what the buzz was when i saw the CPU TEMP WARNING setting
to trigger it at 60C i changed it to 70C rebooted and the buzz was
gone but the TEMP kept at 64C, and since the peak nominal temp for P4
3E is 69.1 the whole things was too scary... just 5.1 degrees below
critical temp and just running the BIOS setup???? :shock: :roll:

My old P4 1.6 cpu was cooler than that even it was a lil' OCed (to
1.65) the cpu temp never reached 50C (even playing Joint Operations
over Internet or Rendering in 3DSmax) although never used an extra
cooling
system but the stock HSF, a 120mm fan placed just below the PSU
and the case opened all the time, so after reading your comment my
conclusion is that a P4 3E is a real "hottie" literaly

Now i have to wait untill tomorrow for buy a Cooling system and some
thermal paste, since the options here (guadalajara, mexico,the
so-called "Mexican-Latinamerican Sillicon Valley" yeah right!!)
aren't that much... no AS grease just a cheap Sili-Tek silicon grease
(i hope it works) and a Gigabyte Rocket Fan cooler that looks like the
AIR filter of my GT Cruiser .... :roll:

Un saludo amigos, and forgive my typos and grammar english is not my
1st language

My system specs:
Mobo GA-8TRS350MT
RAM: 640 MB (2 x 256Mb DDR PC2100, 1 x 128 DDR PC2100 for video shared
mem)
Optical: LG 52x32x52x CDRW
Case: Mid Tower 380W Generical Case
HDD: 1 Seagate 60Gb, 1 Seagate 40Gb, 1 20Gb Quantum

 

[Peacekeeper]

I was googling about the P4 3E high temps when reached this thread, i
just bought my P4 3E 4 hours ago and as soon i arrived from work
took
my old P4 1.6 out and mounted the new one all went really smooth and
fast to boot up XP but as soon XP detected the new kid in the block
an ear -killing-high-pitch-neverending-buzz jumped from the case (1-2
minutes since power on) i though was the new cpu fan or something like
that since i readed a lot of tech doc telling about the big heat
source this "toy" was (geez i almost buy a P4 3.2 but a the guy
buying before me took the last one, and since my Toshiba Satellite
a70 used one of those and im burning my lap while typing this i thank
to that guy for getting that brimstone before me ), I opened the
easy4 tune tool for monitoring the cpu and system (im using a
GA-8TRS350MT which uses an ATI chipset) i was amazed about the cpu
core temp readed: 55C and just XP and services running but the buzz
was driving me crazy so i did shutdown the PC to figure out where the
buzz was originated, after 2-3 minutes booted up to BIOS (the buzz
showed up again) and found some really scary at the PC Health
section:

CPU TEMP: 60C (it reached and stalled at 64C in 2 seconds)

So i found what the buzz was when i saw the CPU TEMP WARNING setting
to trigger it at 60C i changed it to 70C rebooted and the buzz was
gone but the TEMP kept at 64C, and since the peak nominal temp for P4
3E is 69.1 the whole things was too scary... just 5.1 degrees below
critical temp and just running the BIOS setup???? :shock: :roll:

My old P4 1.6 cpu was cooler than that even it was a lil' OCed (to
1.65) the cpu temp never reached 50C (even playing Joint Operations
over Internet or Rendering in 3DSmax) although never used an extra
cooling
system but the stock HSF, a 120mm fan placed just below the PSU
and the case opened all the time, so after reading your comment my
conclusion is that a P4 3E is a real "hottie" literaly

Now i have to wait untill tomorrow for buy a Cooling system and some
thermal paste, since the options here (guadalajara, mexico,the
so-called "Mexican-Latinamerican Sillicon Valley" yeah right!!)
aren't that much... no AS grease just a cheap Sili-Tek silicon grease
(i hope it works) and a Gigabyte Rocket Fan cooler that looks like the
AIR filter of my GT Cruiser .... :roll:

Un saludo amigos, and forgive my typos and grammar english is not my
1st language

My system specs:
Mobo GA-8TRS350MT
RAM: 640 MB (2 x 256Mb DDR PC2100, 1 x 128 DDR PC2100 for video shared
mem)
Optical: LG 52x32x52x CDRW
Case: Mid Tower 380W Generical Case
HDD: 1 Seagate 60Gb, 1 Seagate 40Gb, 1 20Gb Quantum

Ok i have a 3gc version and it sits at 50C highs of 56C. My query to you
would be

1. what was the cpu fan speed running at?
2. have to ask you did remove any cpu thermal pad correctly. ( sorry if this
offends).