Best Way for 2 Sites 200 feet line-of-sight??

[fred]

Anyone, please.

I have a situation where there's a sales office and a construction back
office. They both need to be on the same WiFi network. The two sites are
located about 200 feet apart in wood frame structures with NO intervening
obstructions. Trying to minimize cost and the number of gadgets and any
outdoor temporary LAN cabling would be nice. What's the best option?
What's a reasonable list of options?

A fancy new wireless router with extended range like a Belkin Pre N seems an
option to catch both sites with one gadget? Only B & G modes are needed.
However if such doesn't reach both sites reliably then what's plan B? It's
my understand that recent routers like the Belkin Pre N require that the
three antennas are like a phased array such that one can't disconnect one
antenna and put a directional high gain antenna there?? So is there an
optimal choice for a single B/G router with a few hardwired LAN ports that
could have one antenna used for local WiFi and the second antenna removed
and cabled to a high gain directional antenna?

What overall are the reasonable options to attain this goal that may include
step-wise experiments that don't require throwing out the elements of
previous lack of success?

Side question: I guess that the '802.11N' standard has now been formally
agreed to. Does anyone know how that came out with respect to various mfg.
'pre N' implementations? It was speculated that some "pre N" products might
work with a simple firmware upgrade for the final 802.11N standard. Anyone
know how this has played out?

Thanks.

 

[Clark W. Griswold, Jr.]

I have a situation where there's a sales office and a construction back
office. They both need to be on the same WiFi network. The two sites are
located about 200 feet apart in wood frame structures with NO intervening
obstructions. Trying to minimize cost and the number of gadgets and any
outdoor temporary LAN cabling would be nice. What's the best option?
What's a reasonable list of options?

200 feet? A good MIMO router at one end and an AP at the other should work with
no problem. Fallback is to locate the router and AP near a window in both
buildings, or in the attic (if there is one). Shoot, I get 10-12 neighbors in my
upstairs home office some whom are over 1000 feet away.

 

[Don W]

Anyone, please.

I have a situation where there's a sales office and a construction back
office. They both need to be on the same WiFi network. The two sites are
located about 200 feet apart in wood frame structures with NO intervening
obstructions. Trying to minimize cost and the number of gadgets and any
outdoor temporary LAN cabling would be nice. What's the best option?
What's a reasonable list of options?

A fancy new wireless router with extended range like a Belkin Pre N seems
an option to catch both sites with one gadget? Only B & G modes are
needed. However if such doesn't reach both sites reliably then what's plan
B? It's my understand that recent routers like the Belkin Pre N require
that the three antennas are like a phased array such that one can't
disconnect one antenna and put a directional high gain antenna there??
So is there an optimal choice for a single B/G router with a few hardwired
LAN ports that could have one antenna used for local WiFi and the second
antenna removed and cabled to a high gain directional antenna?

What overall are the reasonable options to attain this goal that may
include step-wise experiments that don't require throwing out the elements
of previous lack of success?

Side question: I guess that the '802.11N' standard has now been formally
agreed to. Does anyone know how that came out with respect to various
mfg. 'pre N' implementations? It was speculated that some "pre N"
products might work with a simple firmware upgrade for the final 802.11N
standard. Anyone know how this has played out?

Thanks.

Directional antennas are the way to go. Routers use two antennas (not
simultaneously) by 'choosing' the one with the best signal. If the
diversity system gives you any problem (it shouldn't), then replace the
remaining omnidirectional with a 50 ohm dummy load.

The higher the gain (on both ends), the better -- not only will it improve
signal quality, but it will reduce interference to and from others. High
gain antennas won't compare with WPA as a security measure, but it's less
likely someone in your general vicinity will pick up your signal unless they
are directly in line with your antennas.

Try using a wireless router or access point on one end and a
wireless-Ethernet adapter (wireless client) on the other. The alternative
is to use two access points that are capable of 'bridge' mode. If you do it
that way, use identical units on both ends and make sure the 'bridge' mode
means that it bridges two wired networks wirelessly.

Don W.

 

[fred]

Directional antennas are the way to go. Routers use two antennas (not
simultaneously) by 'choosing' the one with the best signal.

Not true for the lastest technology like the thre antenna Belkin Pre N
products.

If the diversity system gives you any problem (it shouldn't), then replace
the remaining omnidirectional with a 50 ohm dummy load.

The higher the gain (on both ends), the better -- not only will it improve
signal quality, but it will reduce interference to and from others. High
gain antennas won't compare with WPA as a security measure, but it's less
likely someone in your general vicinity will pick up your signal unless
they are directly in line with your antennas.

Try using a wireless router or access point on one end and a
wireless-Ethernet adapter (wireless client) on the other. The alternative
is to use two access points that are capable of 'bridge' mode.

Can you give an example of a specific product that runs in this 'bridge'
mode?

 

[Don W]

Not true for the lastest technology like the thre antenna Belkin Pre N
products.



Can you give an example of a specific product that runs in this 'bridge'
mode?

http://www.planet.com.tw/product/product_dm.php?product_id=295&menu_id=14
http://www.planet.com.tw/product/product_dm.php?product_id=315&menu_id=14
http://www.idreus.com/?page=product&action=view&id=190
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E55330C

Looks like the favorite is the Planet WAP-4000

I still like the wireless Ethernet client:
http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/nemewietbrac.html
http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/wge111nar.html
http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/wge101nar.html

Don W.

 

[frankdowling1]

Just out of interest - is Netgear rebranded D-Link for marketing
purposes or is it an entirely diffirent brand on its own ?

 

[Hans-Georg Michna]

Just out of interest - is Netgear rebranded D-Link for marketing
purposes or is it an entirely diffirent brand on its own ?

NetGear used to be Zyxel (from Taiwan).

Hans-Georg

 

[John Navas]

[POSTED TO alt.internet.wireless - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <[email protected]> on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:52:05

Entirely different brands.

NetGear used to be Zyxel (from Taiwan).

NETGEAR licensed only a few ZyXEL routers.
Most NETGEAR products aren't related to ZyXEL.

 

[Hans-Georg Michna]

In <[email protected]> on Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:52:05

NETGEAR licensed only a few ZyXEL routers.
Most NETGEAR products aren't related to ZyXEL.

John,

ah, didn't know that, thanks! I had seen one of those routers.

Where are the corporate headquarters of NetGear located?

Hans-Georg

 

[John Navas]

[POSTED TO alt.internet.wireless - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <[email protected]> on Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:04:18

ah, didn't know that, thanks! I had seen one of those routers.

Where are the corporate headquarters of NetGear located?

<http://www.netgear.com/about/contact_netgear.php>

 

[Hans-Georg Michna]

<http://www.netgear.com/about/contact_netgear.php>

John,

thanks again! I looked for that on the web but must have
overlooked or not found that page.

So they are in California.

Hans-Georg