Best AV program or suite

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Fruit2O

Norton Internet Suite is getting great reviews. Comments on what YOU
think is best are welcome.
 
B

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Fruit2O said:
Norton Internet Suite is getting great reviews. Comments on what YOU
think is best are welcome.

0. Question is asked several times a week. Did you check recent posts?
1. Norton/McAfee are bloated, expensive pigs.
2. Use Avira, Avast, or AVG - all free.
2a. No anti- program is going to catch everything.
3. Use a router and firewall.
4. Use common sense - don't blindly click on everything.
5. Consider another operating system.
 
E

El.Plates

Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
0. Question is asked several times a week. Did you check recent posts?
1. Norton/McAfee are bloated, expensive pigs.
2. Use Avira, Avast, or AVG - all free.
2a. No anti- program is going to catch everything.
3. Use a router and firewall.
4. Use common sense - don't blindly click on everything.
5. Consider another operating system.

Very well put - but I bet by Wednesday (at the outside) someone else will
ask the very same question ;-)
 
B

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

El.Plates said:
Very well put

...and about as brief and concise as Fruit's post. said:
- but I bet by Wednesday (at the outside) someone else will ask the
very same question ;-)

<clouseau>But of course.</clouseau>
 
B

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Wolf said:
Norton has been getting good reviews recently because it's no longer
bloated. Expensive? It's expensive if it doesn't do what you want,
cheap otherwise.

I think it is still bloated.
Avast and AVG set themselves to run in the background when they
install. That's a major flaw, amounting to a deal breaker for me.

Why a deal-breaker? For most n00bs, that's the best way.
So you need more than one - but if they set themselves to run in the
background upon instillation, they will interfere with each other.
Bah!

Oh no, don't do that. Just ONE anti-virus program, but several other
scanning anti-*malware* apps are needed as well - for those n00bs.
 
1

1PW

Wolf said:
Norton has been getting good reviews recently because it's no longer
bloated. Expensive? It's expensive if it doesn't do what you want, cheap
otherwise.

Unfortunately, those who would rate Norton "good" are not those who I
might depend upon for an opinion to professionally protect an entire
company, corporation, or arm of a major governmental super power.

Try checking out what some of the professional research organizations
have to report about Norton:

<http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/results?display=summary>

<http://www.av-comparatives.org/>

I'm fairly certain you know this; A Norton product should not be
considered a Symantec product - and a Symantec product should not be
considered a Norton product. So that is for the benefit others...
Avast and AVG set themselves to run in the background when they install.
That's a major flaw, amounting to a deal breaker for me.

So does Avira. If real-time protection is your goal (hopefully),
that's a trade-off. It's one most of us are willing to make. Perhaps
AVG still has the largest foot print of all these though.
So you need more than one - but if they set themselves to run in the
background upon instillation, they will interfere with each other. Bah!

Sometimes yes. But several of the very best /do/ work and play well
with others.

I'm sure BTS means a NAT router here.
Yup.

wolf k.

Regards,

Pete
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

1PW said:
I'm sure BTS means a NAT router here.

Of course. The extra word(s) didn't fit in with the conciseness of my
post. <g>

I wonder if Fruit will be back to the thread...
 
1

1PW

Beauregard said:
Of course. The extra word(s) didn't fit in with the conciseness of my
post. <g>

We all new that... :) Yes we did...
I wonder if Fruit will be back to the thread...

Compared to other threads we see, this is a fairly intelligent
discussion. Sometimes only one poster at a time gets enlightened.
Other times many are brought on-board.

Fruit2O is a Rhode Islander and probably sitting down to Sunday dinner
now.

Pete
 
F

Fruit2O

We all new that... :) Yes we did...


Compared to other threads we see, this is a fairly intelligent
discussion. Sometimes only one poster at a time gets enlightened.
Other times many are brought on-board.

Fruit2O is a Rhode Islander and probably sitting down to Sunday dinner
now.

Pete

You're clairvoyant!!! I'm also reading the thread and learning
something. Thanks...........
 
F

Fruit2O

We all new that... :) Yes we did...


Compared to other threads we see, this is a fairly intelligent
discussion. Sometimes only one poster at a time gets enlightened.
Other times many are brought on-board.

Fruit2O is a Rhode Islander and probably sitting down to Sunday dinner
now.

Pete
How did you know I was a Rhode Islander?
 
1

1PW

nobody said:
Supposedly.... Norton Security 2009 has been trimmed of its bloat and is
now a viable "paid for" option.

I don't disagree that it hasn't been improved. However, folks in
these antimalware NGs have never recommended a Norton antimalware
product in my memory. I recently read (somewhere) that providers had
to lower the price of Norton AntiVirus 2009 to less than $20USD to
help sales.

We still pity those who install Norton stuff on systems with
challenged resources. We would much rather see a n00be install Avira
for their AV needs. Perhaps Microsoft Security Essentials will show
promise.
FYI requires registration to view results, but free

My bad. I did that intensionally to make a point.
Not updated well

That was sort of a ploy to show that Norton products haven't been
rated professionally.
Oh??
Where do you find the mfr's website for Norton Security 2009??

http://www.symantec.com/norton/internet-security

The "Norton" trademark was bought from Peter Norton many years ago by
Symantec.

Yes. Certainly. If you're new to the malware fight, you soon find
this out in short order. Some of us may still remember Peter Norton
Utilities a few decade ago.

A Norton product has no relationship to a corporate Symantec product.
As I, and others have oft said in these NGs, with a few embarrassing
instances, Symantec corporate products hold a much higher level of
respect when compared to Norton antimalware offerings.

None of us truly wants this.

Respectfully,

Pete
 
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1PW

Fruit2O wrote:

Snip, snip...
How did you know I was a Rhode Islander?

Though you /are/ running the latest Forte Agent, your newsreader and
security practices are quite generous with /your/ information.

Not to worry. We have relatively few stalkers in this newsgroup...

:)

Regards,

Pete
 
V

Virus Guy

1PW said:
Though you /are/ running the latest Forte Agent, your newsreader
and security practices are quite generous with /your/ information.

Wrong.

Fruit20's news reader and his "security practices" had nothing to do
with id'ing him as being in Rhode Island.

1PW knows that Fruit20 is in Rhode Island because of this line in the
header of Fruit20's posts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.1.163.181

A reverse lookup on that IP address returns this:

ip68-1-163-181.ri.ri.cox.net

Whois information also indicates that the likely geolocation of that IP
is RI - Rhode Island.

The presence of the NNTP-Posting-Host line in Fruit20's posts is not
caused by his news reader or his "security practices". That line is
created by the NNTP server or service he uses to read and post to
usenet, which is COX, or perhaps more correctly, a highwinds-media.com
server used by COX customers.
your newsreader and security practices are quite
generous with /your/ information

I wonder what caused 1PW to make such a false claim.
 
R

rmo555

Wrong.

Fruit20's news reader and his "security practices" had nothing to do
with id'ing him as being in Rhode Island.

1PW knows that Fruit20 is in Rhode Island because of this line in the
header of Fruit20's posts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.1.163.181

A reverse lookup on that IP address returns this:

ip68-1-163-181.ri.ri.cox.net

Whois information also indicates that the likely geolocation of that IP
is RI - Rhode Island.

The presence of the NNTP-Posting-Host line in Fruit20's posts is not
caused by his news reader or his "security practices". That line is
created by the NNTP server or service he uses to read and post to
usenet, which is COX, or perhaps more correctly, a highwinds-media.com
server used by COX customers.


I wonder what caused 1PW to make such a false claim.

I wonder why anyone would bother to look up the source of a posting?
 

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