Bcc Conspiracy

[Fletch]

There is seriously a Bcc conspiracy. I have my default mail set up in
HTML in Outlook 2007. When I send out a new message with a bcc
recipient, I can see it in my sent folder. But when I reply or
forward the same message to another or the same bcc recipient, when I
go to see whom I sent it to in my sent folder, the field disappears
all together.

Who's behind this plot?

By the way, I'm using Gmail and IMAP if that matters.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

are you storing it in the IMAP sent folder or the local sent folder? If IMAP
folder, it's probably related to how gmail stores mail and the fact that bcc
is a hidden field. Store a copy local and see if the BCC field remains
populated.

 

[VanguardLH]

There is seriously a Bcc conspiracy. I have my default mail set up
in
HTML in Outlook 2007. When I send out a new message with a bcc
recipient, I can see it in my sent folder.

Well, yeah, because you specified a Bcc recipient.

But when I reply or
forward the same message to another [recipient]

Since you don't get e-mails where the Bcc recipients were listed, just
why do you think your reply would go to them? You are replying to
whomever sent you that e-mail, not to whomever the original sender
sent that e-mail.

or the same bcc recipient,

So are you Bcc'ing that recipient, or putting them in the To/Cc
fields?

when I go to see whom I sent it to in my sent folder, the field
disappears
all together.

It only appears if Bcc was actually used when you sent that e-mail.
So you did not use Bcc when you *sent* the e-mail.

Who's behind this plot?

The boobs that didn't manage to educate you regarding logic when you
back in elementary and high school.

By the way, I'm using Gmail and IMAP if that matters.

Gmail does not provide true POP3 and IMAP4 services. They emulate
them. There are known problems existing with Gmail for over 2 years
that they have not addressed. However, the problem regarding Bcc
looks to me more on how you are sending e-mails from Outlook than on
what e-mail provider you are using.

 

[Fletch]

are you storing it in the IMAP sent folder or the local sent folder? If IMAP
folder, it's probably related to how gmail stores mail and the fact that bcc
is a hidden field. Store a copy local and see if the BCC field remains
populated.

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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
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There is seriously a Bcc conspiracy. I have my default mail set up in
HTML in Outlook 2007. When I send out a new message with a bcc
recipient, I can see it in my sent folder. But when I reply or
forward the same message to another or the same bcc recipient, when I
go to see whom I sent it to in my sent folder, the field disappears
all together.

Who's behind this plot?

By the way, I'm using Gmail and IMAP if that matters.

Diane, I don't think it's Gmail, because whenever I send an email with
bcc recipients from the Gmail interface they are visible in the bcc
fields of the "sent" message.

I suppose that I could keep a copy of the messages in my "sent"
personal folder, but I'm not a big fan of having to go back and forth
between personal folders and IMAP folders.

If I were to do that, would I set it up by making a rule that stores a
copy in my personal "sent" folder?

Thanks for your help.

 

[Fletch]

There is seriously a Bcc conspiracy. I have my default mail set up
in
HTML in Outlook 2007. When I send out a new message with a bcc
recipient, I can see it in my sent folder.

Well, yeah, because you specified a Bcc recipient.

But when I reply or
forward the same message to another [recipient]

Since you don't get e-mails where the Bcc recipients were listed, just
why do you think your reply would go to them? You are replying to
whomever sent you that e-mail, not to whomever the original sender
sent that e-mail.

or the same bcc recipient,

So are you Bcc'ing that recipient, or putting them in the To/Cc
fields?

when I go to see whom I sent it to in my sent folder, the field
disappears
all together.

It only appears if Bcc was actually used when you sent that e-mail.
So you did not use Bcc when you *sent* the e-mail.

Who's behind this plot?

The boobs that didn't manage to educate you regarding logic when you
back in elementary and high school.

By the way, I'm using Gmail and IMAP if that matters.

Gmail does not provide true POP3 and IMAP4 services. They emulate
them. There are known problems existing with Gmail for over 2 years
that they have not addressed. However, the problem regarding Bcc
looks to me more on how you are sending e-mails from Outlook than on
what e-mail provider you are using.

Vangaurd, thanks so much for your detailed and thorough response, I
appreciate it.

As regards replies, I meant to say that if I reply to a message from a
known sender and also bcc the reply to another recipient, I can't see
the bcc recipient in the "sent" reply.

I don't know what I was talking about regarding sending a message to
the same bcc recipient, it must have been the late night air adversely
affecting my synapses.

So you had teachers in elementary and high school that formally taught
you about logic? I must confess that I did not; I'm rather jealous.
I will, however, say that my high school teachers and college
professors did educate me regarding satire and veiled humor . . . Oh,
and the boobs did manage to teach me a thing or two about grammar and
proofreading.

Finally, I certainly agree with your well-founded conclusion that
Gmail is not the culprit.

Again, thanks for your time and unusually warm regards.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

in outlook 2007 you can either use a rule to copy the sent message to the
gmail sent folder or just disable saving it in the gmail sent folder
(choosing the local folder in acct properties).

are you storing it in the IMAP sent folder or the local sent folder? If
IMAP
folder, it's probably related to how gmail stores mail and the fact that
bcc
is a hidden field. Store a copy local and see if the BCC field remains
populated.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)

Outlook Tips:http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center:http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
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There is seriously a Bcc conspiracy. I have my default mail set up in
HTML in Outlook 2007. When I send out a new message with a bcc
recipient, I can see it in my sent folder. But when I reply or
forward the same message to another or the same bcc recipient, when I
go to see whom I sent it to in my sent folder, the field disappears
all together.

Who's behind this plot?

By the way, I'm using Gmail and IMAP if that matters.

Diane, I don't think it's Gmail, because whenever I send an email with
bcc recipients from the Gmail interface they are visible in the bcc
fields of the "sent" message.

I suppose that I could keep a copy of the messages in my "sent"
personal folder, but I'm not a big fan of having to go back and forth
between personal folders and IMAP folders.

If I were to do that, would I set it up by making a rule that stores a
copy in my personal "sent" folder?

Thanks for your help.

 

[VanguardLH]

How are you "seeing" the Bcc field in your outbound e-mails under the
Sent Items folder in Outlook? Are you *opening* those e-mails to show
them in their own window? Right-click and Open, or double-click on an
item in the Sent Items Folder so the e-mail shows in its own window.
Does the Bcc field show up there (for e-mails where you included a
non-blank Bcc field)?