AVG months behind other anti-virus programs

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SD65879

Avast & Norton anti-virus found virus in archives months ago
that now finally AVG has detected. Does each anti-virus company
do their own research to determine what is a virus then instruct
their software what to look for or do they access a database and
use those findings or what? One of the virus is
Trojan horse dropper.Delf.3.BE.

A program Avast & Norton just absolutly won't let run is called
crack searcher but AVG will. Does it contain a virus?
 
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Eric Parker

SD65879 said:
Avast & Norton anti-virus found virus in archives months ago
that now finally AVG has detected. Does each anti-virus company
do their own research to determine what is a virus then instruct
their software what to look for or do they access a database and
use those findings or what? One of the virus is
Trojan horse dropper.Delf.3.BE.

A program Avast & Norton just absolutly won't let run is called
crack searcher but AVG will. Does it contain a virus?

If you suspect a file is infected, submit it to virustotal.

http://www.virustotal.com/flash/index_en.html

eric
 
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Noel Paton

SD65879 said:
Avast & Norton anti-virus found virus in archives months ago
that now finally AVG has detected. Does each anti-virus company
do their own research to determine what is a virus then instruct
their software what to look for or do they access a database and
use those findings or what? One of the virus is
Trojan horse dropper.Delf.3.BE.

A program Avast & Norton just absolutly won't let run is called
crack searcher but AVG will. Does it contain a virus?


AVG has historically not bothered much with Trojans, as it seems not to view
them as viral infection vectors - hopefully this is changing

As Eric says, check out dubious files with a submission to one of the
multi-virus scanner sites.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
 
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Art

AVG has historically not bothered much with Trojans, as it seems not to view
them as viral infection vectors

Trojans aren't "viral". They don't replicate. Non-replicative malware
have long been detected by antivirus products. AVG just happens to
be one of the products that have never tested well comparatively in
the Trojan and "other malware" categories. Many av products seem to
be improving in such categories. This is partly due to the fact that
viruses are far less of a problem now than they used to be. Worms
and a wide variety of Trojans (including spyware and adware and
various and sundry "underware") are now the major problem.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
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Ben Myers

SD65879 said:
Avast & Norton anti-virus found virus in archives months ago
that now finally AVG has detected. Does each anti-virus company
do their own research to determine what is a virus then instruct
their software what to look for or do they access a database and
use those findings or what? One of the virus is
Trojan horse dropper.Delf.3.BE.

A program Avast & Norton just absolutly won't let run is called
crack searcher but AVG will. Does it contain a virus?

Zip the suspicious file and send it to them.

(e-mail address removed)

Ben
 
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jen

Art said:
Trojans aren't "viral". They don't replicate. Non-replicative malware
have long been detected by antivirus products. AVG just happens to
be one of the products that have never tested well comparatively in
the Trojan and "other malware" categories. Many av products seem to
be improving in such categories. This is partly due to the fact that
viruses are far less of a problem now than they used to be. Worms
and a wide variety of Trojans (including spyware and adware and
various and sundry "underware") are now the major problem.

Read it again... He said "viral infection vectors". Do you not know what a
vector is?

-jen
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "jen" <[email protected]>


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| Read it again... He said "viral infection vectors". Do you not know what a
| vector is?
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| -jen
|

I think you'll find that Art has quite a library of knowledge. The problem is there really
is no definition for "infection vector". I use this terminology as ways that infectors use
to spread. Email is an infection vector, so is P2P, IM, unsecure shared, vulnerable
networking protocol ports, etc.

The fact is Trojans need assistance to be installed and don't seek out their own "infection
vectors" to spread.

Although I understood what Noel was trying to convey, I don't really concur with his use of
the term "vectors" in the context he used.

Maybe the following is more apropos...

"AVG has historically not bothered much with Trojans, as it seems not to view them as viral
entities"

Personally, I think AVG is often slow to produce signatures but, they do target Trojans.

Examples: Dropper.Yabinder.A , PSW.Perfect.B , Downloader.Agent.IP
 
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Art

Although I understood what Noel was trying to convey, I don't really concur with his use of
the term "vectors" in the context he used.

Maybe the following is more apropos...

"AVG has historically not bothered much with Trojans, as it seems not to view them as viral
entities"

I'm sure AVG knows the difference between a virus and a Trojan :)
Sorry, but your rewording comes across as just as absurd to me.

"AVG has historically not bothered much with Trojans"

That makes sense while the other sentences don't.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 

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