Automatic Updates/SP3 Question

[Daave]

My co-worker's wife asked me to look at her Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop.
It turns out her brother was messing with the Dial-Up settings for some
reason, but I fixed them.

However, I noticed that this Dell, which is at SP level 2 had the yellow
shield with the exclamation point in the systray. Apparently, SP3 had
been downloaded and was ready to be installed. My friend, knowing I'd
probably have better luck than he or his wife would have, asked me if I
would mind installing it, and I agreed to do so. I ran into an odd, but
unfortunately common problem (the stupid "cannot copy the Beethov9.wma
file" issue). It was too much effort to force the square peg into the
round hole, so I figured I'd just install the usual way from my Service
Pack 3 CD, which went smoothly.

But I'm still getting the Windows Update alert. I noticed also that the
Download folder (I'm pretty sure that's where the *other* SP3
installation file is located) in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution is
quite large (521 MB). What is best practice in this situation? I'd like
to simply delete the contents of this folder, but are there any other
steps? I don't want to badly bork any future Windows Updates!

 

[Lil' Dave]

My co-worker's wife asked me to look at her Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop. It
turns out her brother was messing with the Dial-Up settings for some
reason, but I fixed them.

However, I noticed that this Dell, which is at SP level 2 had the yellow
shield with the exclamation point in the systray. Apparently, SP3 had been
downloaded and was ready to be installed. My friend, knowing I'd probably
have better luck than he or his wife would have, asked me if I would mind
installing it, and I agreed to do so. I ran into an odd, but unfortunately
common problem (the stupid "cannot copy the Beethov9.wma file" issue). It
was too much effort to force the square peg into the round hole, so I
figured I'd just install the usual way from my Service Pack 3 CD, which
went smoothly.

But I'm still getting the Windows Update alert. I noticed also that the
Download folder (I'm pretty sure that's where the *other* SP3 installation
file is located) in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution is quite large (521
MB). What is best practice in this situation? I'd like to simply delete
the contents of this folder, but are there any other steps? I don't want
to badly bork any future Windows Updates!

Does sound like there's grounds that service packs should be installed from
only CD though on dialup only PCs. At least that's my experience regarding
downloading large files via dialup, more likely to be corrupted.

May be wrong here, but I believe if you opt to install the downloaded
version of SP3 at this point that nothing will actually happen. And,
windows update will mark it installed as a result, dismiss it from cue for
installation. After that, you can dump the downloaded SP3 installaion file.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[X-post to Windows Update NG]

Get the rest of the updates installed and eventually the contents of the
SoftwareDistribution folder will reduce markedly in size.

Can you install the remaining (post-SP3) updates via
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com?

 

[Daave]

Thanks for cross-posting, by the way, PA Bear.

To my knowledge, there are no other updates in the SoftwareDistribution
folder. It's just the SP3 update, which of course is not necessary now
since I installed it using the CD. But the alert is still telling me it
needs to be installed! I suppose, I could image the hard drive and go
ahead with the update to see what might happen. But frankly, I'm in no
mood to experiment. I just want to know what standard operating
procedure is in a situation like this. Bottom line: What's the proper
way to eliminate this incorrect alert?

[X-post to Windows Update NG]

Get the rest of the updates installed and eventually the contents of
the SoftwareDistribution folder will reduce markedly in size.

Can you install the remaining (post-SP3) updates via
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

My co-worker's wife asked me to look at her Dell Inspiron 5100
laptop.
It turns out her brother was messing with the Dial-Up settings for
some
reason, but I fixed them.

However, I noticed that this Dell, which is at SP level 2 had the
yellow
shield with the exclamation point in the systray. Apparently, SP3 had
been downloaded and was ready to be installed. My friend, knowing I'd
probably have better luck than he or his wife would have, asked me if
I
would mind installing it, and I agreed to do so. I ran into an odd,
but
unfortunately common problem (the stupid "cannot copy the
Beethov9.wma
file" issue). It was too much effort to force the square peg into the
round hole, so I figured I'd just install the usual way from my
Service
Pack 3 CD, which went smoothly.

But I'm still getting the Windows Update alert. I noticed also that
the
Download folder (I'm pretty sure that's where the *other* SP3
installation file is located) in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution is
quite large (521 MB). What is best practice in this situation? I'd
like
to simply delete the contents of this folder, but are there any other
steps? I don't want to badly bork any future Windows Updates!

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Ignore the SoftwareDistribution folder for now, please. Assuming updates
are available at Windows Update, can you successfully install them?

Right-click on My Computer | Properties: Does the General tab confirm that
WinXP SP3 has installed?

Thanks for cross-posting, by the way, PA Bear.

To my knowledge, there are no other updates in the SoftwareDistribution
folder. It's just the SP3 update, which of course is not necessary now
since I installed it using the CD. But the alert is still telling me it
needs to be installed! I suppose, I could image the hard drive and go
ahead with the update to see what might happen. But frankly, I'm in no
mood to experiment. I just want to know what standard operating
procedure is in a situation like this. Bottom line: What's the proper
way to eliminate this incorrect alert?

[X-post to Windows Update NG]

Get the rest of the updates installed and eventually the contents of
the SoftwareDistribution folder will reduce markedly in size.

Can you install the remaining (post-SP3) updates via
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

My co-worker's wife asked me to look at her Dell Inspiron 5100
laptop.
It turns out her brother was messing with the Dial-Up settings for
some
reason, but I fixed them.

However, I noticed that this Dell, which is at SP level 2 had the
yellow
shield with the exclamation point in the systray. Apparently, SP3 had
been downloaded and was ready to be installed. My friend, knowing I'd
probably have better luck than he or his wife would have, asked me if
I
would mind installing it, and I agreed to do so. I ran into an odd,
but
unfortunately common problem (the stupid "cannot copy the
Beethov9.wma
file" issue). It was too much effort to force the square peg into the
round hole, so I figured I'd just install the usual way from my
Service
Pack 3 CD, which went smoothly.

But I'm still getting the Windows Update alert. I noticed also that
the
Download folder (I'm pretty sure that's where the *other* SP3
installation file is located) in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution is
quite large (521 MB). What is best practice in this situation? I'd
like
to simply delete the contents of this folder, but are there any other
steps? I don't want to badly bork any future Windows Updates!

 

[Daave]

SP3 indeed had been installed (that was never in doubt).

I just visited the WU site. There was only one high-priority update to
be installed: KB951978 (the other six software updates were optional).
The update required a reboot. After the reboot, all was well: the update
had been installed and the pesky notification icon did *not* appear.
However, the Software Distribution folder is still quite large. But
perhaps it's supposed to be.

I suppose everything worked out fine. I was just concerned about a
potential conflict, but it looks like that won't be happening. Thank for
your input.

Ignore the SoftwareDistribution folder for now, please. Assuming
updates are available at Windows Update, can you successfully install
them?

Right-click on My Computer | Properties: Does the General tab confirm
that WinXP SP3 has installed?

Thanks for cross-posting, by the way, PA Bear.

To my knowledge, there are no other updates in the
SoftwareDistribution
folder. It's just the SP3 update, which of course is not necessary
now
since I installed it using the CD. But the alert is still telling me
it
needs to be installed! I suppose, I could image the hard drive and go
ahead with the update to see what might happen. But frankly, I'm in
no
mood to experiment. I just want to know what standard operating
procedure is in a situation like this. Bottom line: What's the proper
way to eliminate this incorrect alert?

[X-post to Windows Update NG]

Get the rest of the updates installed and eventually the contents of
the SoftwareDistribution folder will reduce markedly in size.

Can you install the remaining (post-SP3) updates via
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Daave wrote:
My co-worker's wife asked me to look at her Dell Inspiron 5100
laptop.
It turns out her brother was messing with the Dial-Up settings for
some
reason, but I fixed them.

However, I noticed that this Dell, which is at SP level 2 had the
yellow
shield with the exclamation point in the systray. Apparently, SP3
had
been downloaded and was ready to be installed. My friend, knowing
I'd
probably have better luck than he or his wife would have, asked me
if
I
would mind installing it, and I agreed to do so. I ran into an odd,
but
unfortunately common problem (the stupid "cannot copy the
Beethov9.wma
file" issue). It was too much effort to force the square peg into
the
round hole, so I figured I'd just install the usual way from my
Service
Pack 3 CD, which went smoothly.

But I'm still getting the Windows Update alert. I noticed also that
the
Download folder (I'm pretty sure that's where the *other* SP3
installation file is located) in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution is
quite large (521 MB). What is best practice in this situation? I'd
like
to simply delete the contents of this folder, but are there any
other
steps? I don't want to badly bork any future Windows Updates!

 

[MowGreen [MVP]]

However, the Software Distribution folder is still quite large. But

perhaps it's supposed to be.

IF Automatic Updates is functioning properly then the downloaded updates
should be cycled off of the system in time.
If you do not want to wait for this to occur, stop the update service
and BITS service
Start > Run > type in the following and then click OK or press Enter

net stop wuauserv
net stop bits

Show hidden files, folders, and system files
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html#winxp

and then navigate to WINDOWS\SofwareDistribution\Download and manually
delete all of the subfolder's content.
Either restart the system now to start the stopped services or

Start > Run >

net start bits
net start wuauserv

NOTE: BITS is not always set to Automatic on Startup and may not need to
be stopped. Automatic updating can be done when it's set to Manual on
Startup.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

SP3 indeed had been installed (that was never in doubt).

I just visited the WU site. There was only one high-priority update to
be installed: KB951978 (the other six software updates were optional).
The update required a reboot. After the reboot, all was well: the update
had been installed and the pesky notification icon did *not* appear.
However, the Software Distribution folder is still quite large. But
perhaps it's supposed to be.

I suppose everything worked out fine. I was just concerned about a
potential conflict, but it looks like that won't be happening. Thank for
your input.

Ignore the SoftwareDistribution folder for now, please. Assuming
updates are available at Windows Update, can you successfully install
them?

Right-click on My Computer | Properties: Does the General tab confirm
that WinXP SP3 has installed?

Thanks for cross-posting, by the way, PA Bear.

To my knowledge, there are no other updates in the
SoftwareDistribution
folder. It's just the SP3 update, which of course is not necessary
now
since I installed it using the CD. But the alert is still telling me
it
needs to be installed! I suppose, I could image the hard drive and go
ahead with the update to see what might happen. But frankly, I'm in
no
mood to experiment. I just want to know what standard operating
procedure is in a situation like this. Bottom line: What's the proper
way to eliminate this incorrect alert?



[X-post to Windows Update NG]

Get the rest of the updates installed and eventually the contents of
the SoftwareDistribution folder will reduce markedly in size.

Can you install the remaining (post-SP3) updates via
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Daave wrote:

My co-worker's wife asked me to look at her Dell Inspiron 5100
laptop.
It turns out her brother was messing with the Dial-Up settings for
some
reason, but I fixed them.

However, I noticed that this Dell, which is at SP level 2 had the
yellow
shield with the exclamation point in the systray. Apparently, SP3
had
been downloaded and was ready to be installed. My friend, knowing
I'd
probably have better luck than he or his wife would have, asked me
if
I
would mind installing it, and I agreed to do so. I ran into an odd,
but
unfortunately common problem (the stupid "cannot copy the
Beethov9.wma
file" issue). It was too much effort to force the square peg into
the
round hole, so I figured I'd just install the usual way from my
Service
Pack 3 CD, which went smoothly.

But I'm still getting the Windows Update alert. I noticed also that
the
Download folder (I'm pretty sure that's where the *other* SP3
installation file is located) in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution is
quite large (521 MB). What is best practice in this situation? I'd
like
to simply delete the contents of this folder, but are there any
other
steps? I don't want to badly bork any future Windows Updates!

 

[Daave]

IF Automatic Updates is functioning properly then the downloaded
updates should be cycled off of the system in time.
If you do not want to wait for this to occur, stop the update service
and BITS service
Start > Run > type in the following and then click OK or press Enter

net stop wuauserv
net stop bits

Show hidden files, folders, and system files
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html#winxp

and then navigate to WINDOWS\SofwareDistribution\Download and manually
delete all of the subfolder's content.
Either restart the system now to start the stopped services or

Start > Run >

net start bits
net start wuauserv

NOTE: BITS is not always set to Automatic on Startup and may not need
to be stopped. Automatic updating can be done when it's set to Manual
on Startup.

Excellent. Thanks, Mow!

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Very good. The size of SoftwareDistribution folder should decrease
automatically over time. That being said, here's a variation on Mow's last
post:

1. Stop the Automatic Updates service:

Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Stop
(Stopping the service will take a moment)

2. Delete the contents of the Download folder:

Start > Run > (type in) %windir%\SoftwareDistribution > [OK]
Open the Download folder and delete its contents
Close the window.

3. Start the Automatic Updates service:

Start > Run > (type in) services.msc > [OK]
Double-click Automatic Updates > Click on Start
(Starting the service will take a moment)

SP3 indeed had been installed (that was never in doubt).

I just visited the WU site. There was only one high-priority update to
be installed: KB951978 (the other six software updates were optional).
The update required a reboot. After the reboot, all was well: the update
had been installed and the pesky notification icon did *not* appear.
However, the Software Distribution folder is still quite large. But
perhaps it's supposed to be.

I suppose everything worked out fine. I was just concerned about a
potential conflict, but it looks like that won't be happening. Thank for
your input.

Ignore the SoftwareDistribution folder for now, please. Assuming
updates are available at Windows Update, can you successfully install
them?

Right-click on My Computer | Properties: Does the General tab confirm
that WinXP SP3 has installed?

Thanks for cross-posting, by the way, PA Bear.

To my knowledge, there are no other updates in the
SoftwareDistribution
folder. It's just the SP3 update, which of course is not necessary
now
since I installed it using the CD. But the alert is still telling me
it
needs to be installed! I suppose, I could image the hard drive and go
ahead with the update to see what might happen. But frankly, I'm in
no
mood to experiment. I just want to know what standard operating
procedure is in a situation like this. Bottom line: What's the proper
way to eliminate this incorrect alert?


[X-post to Windows Update NG]

Get the rest of the updates installed and eventually the contents of
the SoftwareDistribution folder will reduce markedly in size.

Can you install the remaining (post-SP3) updates via
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Daave wrote:
My co-worker's wife asked me to look at her Dell Inspiron 5100
laptop.
It turns out her brother was messing with the Dial-Up settings for
some
reason, but I fixed them.

However, I noticed that this Dell, which is at SP level 2 had the
yellow
shield with the exclamation point in the systray. Apparently, SP3
had
been downloaded and was ready to be installed. My friend, knowing
I'd
probably have better luck than he or his wife would have, asked me
if
I
would mind installing it, and I agreed to do so. I ran into an odd,
but
unfortunately common problem (the stupid "cannot copy the
Beethov9.wma
file" issue). It was too much effort to force the square peg into
the
round hole, so I figured I'd just install the usual way from my
Service
Pack 3 CD, which went smoothly.

But I'm still getting the Windows Update alert. I noticed also that
the
Download folder (I'm pretty sure that's where the *other* SP3
installation file is located) in C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution is
quite large (521 MB). What is best practice in this situation? I'd
like
to simply delete the contents of this folder, but are there any
other
steps? I don't want to badly bork any future Windows Updates!