autoexec.nt elusive

J

John B

I am running under Windows 2000 Pro + sp4. I have gone into a CMD window
and typed "autoexec.nt" + [enter]. A file executes OTHER than the one and
only autoexec.nt file that I can find in my computer... The one I find is
at %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt.

How can this be?
Can anyone refresh my memory? It seems there were various "autoexec" files
under Windows 95...a long time ago. I have used "attrib" to scan the
system32 directory, which should ferret out hidden files, but I only see
autoexec.nt...the same one I can edit.

TIA
John
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

John B said:
I am running under Windows 2000 Pro + sp4. I have gone into a CMD window
and typed "autoexec.nt" + [enter]. A file executes OTHER than the one and
only autoexec.nt file that I can find in my computer... The one I find is
at %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt.

How can this be?
Can anyone refresh my memory? It seems there were various "autoexec"
files
under Windows 95...a long time ago. I have used "attrib" to scan the
system32 directory, which should ferret out hidden files, but I only see
autoexec.nt...the same one I can edit.

TIA
John

There is only one autoexec.nt. It's the one you found in the System32
folder. Why do you want to execute it? It's a legacy file meant for
legacy applications! If you want a certain command to run at logon
time, place its shortcut into your Startup folder! If you want a certain
command to run at boot time, use the Task Scheduler!
 
J

John B

Thanks for the astute suggestions. Yes, those two methods are quite
appropriate. I want to invoke a clock synchronization scheme to NIST, and
since I turn my computer off and on quite frequently, I thought I could just
invoke "net start w32time" upon start up... Of course this didn't work,
when I installed that command line in autoexec.nt. That's why I posted.

(Given that I have set my computer to appeal to time server
time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov as a reference, all I need to do is to start
that service, w32time, to synchronize my clock to atomic time.) So I
suppose I could use Task Scheduler for this.

Better still, NIST provided me with a convenient executable for the purpose
of periodic synchronization: nistime-32bit.exe.

That being said, I am still curious about autoexec.nt. When, quite
specifically, is it executed, may I ask? It doesn't seem to happen for me.

Thanks for the replies.



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Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Pegasus (MVP) said:
John B said:
I am running under Windows 2000 Pro + sp4. I have gone into a CMD window
and typed "autoexec.nt" + [enter]. A file executes OTHER than the one and
only autoexec.nt file that I can find in my computer... The one I find is
at %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt.

How can this be?
Can anyone refresh my memory? It seems there were various "autoexec"
files
under Windows 95...a long time ago. I have used "attrib" to scan the
system32 directory, which should ferret out hidden files, but I only see
autoexec.nt...the same one I can edit.

TIA
John

There is only one autoexec.nt. It's the one you found in the System32
folder. Why do you want to execute it? It's a legacy file meant for
legacy applications! If you want a certain command to run at logon
time, place its shortcut into your Startup folder! If you want a certain
command to run at boot time, use the Task Scheduler!
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

It happens for you too. Open up autoexec.nt, add this
line as a second line, then save the file:

echo We come on the sloop John B

Now click Start / Run / command{OK]

and watch the screen, then remember that command.com
is a legacy 16-bit command processor that should not be
used under Win2000.


John B said:
Thanks for the astute suggestions. Yes, those two methods are quite
appropriate. I want to invoke a clock synchronization scheme to NIST, and
since I turn my computer off and on quite frequently, I thought I could
just
invoke "net start w32time" upon start up... Of course this didn't work,
when I installed that command line in autoexec.nt. That's why I posted.

(Given that I have set my computer to appeal to time server
time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov as a reference, all I need to do is to start
that service, w32time, to synchronize my clock to atomic time.) So I
suppose I could use Task Scheduler for this.

Better still, NIST provided me with a convenient executable for the
purpose
of periodic synchronization: nistime-32bit.exe.

That being said, I am still curious about autoexec.nt. When, quite
specifically, is it executed, may I ask? It doesn't seem to happen for
me.

Thanks for the replies.



--
Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Pegasus (MVP) said:
John B said:
I am running under Windows 2000 Pro + sp4. I have gone into a CMD
window
and typed "autoexec.nt" + [enter]. A file executes OTHER than the one and
only autoexec.nt file that I can find in my computer... The one I find is
at %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt.

How can this be?
Can anyone refresh my memory? It seems there were various "autoexec"
files
under Windows 95...a long time ago. I have used "attrib" to scan the
system32 directory, which should ferret out hidden files, but I only
see
autoexec.nt...the same one I can edit.

TIA
John

There is only one autoexec.nt. It's the one you found in the System32
folder. Why do you want to execute it? It's a legacy file meant for
legacy applications! If you want a certain command to run at logon
time, place its shortcut into your Startup folder! If you want a certain
command to run at boot time, use the Task Scheduler!
 
D

Dave Patrick

Why not use the Windows Time service?

net time /querysntp

net time /setsntp:132.163.4.101


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
J

John B

I'm doing that, quite exactly. But as I have put "net time /querysntp" as a
line entry in autoexec.nt, that line is replied to with "Bad command or file
name" upon my invocation of "start, run, command [enter]"

Once I open a command window, then "net time /querysntp [enter]" will indeed
function as expected.

I don't know why ALL my line entries are "so flunked" when invoked within
autoexec.nt from "start, run, command [enter]"

Your comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

The sloop John B.

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Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Dave Patrick said:
Why not use the Windows Time service?

net time /querysntp

net time /setsntp:132.163.4.101


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

John B said:
Thanks for the astute suggestions. Yes, those two methods are quite
appropriate. I want to invoke a clock synchronization scheme to NIST, and
since I turn my computer off and on quite frequently, I thought I could
just
invoke "net start w32time" upon start up... Of course this didn't work,
when I installed that command line in autoexec.nt. That's why I posted.

(Given that I have set my computer to appeal to time server
time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov as a reference, all I need to do is to start
that service, w32time, to synchronize my clock to atomic time.) So I
suppose I could use Task Scheduler for this.

Better still, NIST provided me with a convenient executable for the
purpose
of periodic synchronization: nistime-32bit.exe.

That being said, I am still curious about autoexec.nt. When, quite
specifically, is it executed, may I ask? It doesn't seem to happen for
me.

Thanks for the replies.
 
J

John B

First of all, I had never before invoked "start, run, command"; only "start,
run, cmd" under Windows 2000. There is a difference. The former invokes
autoexec.nt, while the latter does not. So we have accomplished something
there, at least.

Secondly, your "echo" does indeed work as expected. I just see "We come on
the sloop John B" on a separate line, in the resultant command window, with
no protests whatsoever from the operating system.

But other reasonable line entries are rejected as "Bad." (See reply to
David Patrick.) I don't know why "net time /querysntp [enter]" works in a
command window, but not in autoexec.nt.

Thanks for your replies.

The sloop John B.

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Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Pegasus (MVP) said:
It happens for you too. Open up autoexec.nt, add this
line as a second line, then save the file:

echo We come on the sloop John B

Now click Start / Run / command{OK]

and watch the screen, then remember that command.com
is a legacy 16-bit command processor that should not be
used under Win2000.


Thanks for the astute suggestions. Yes, those two methods are quite
appropriate. I want to invoke a clock synchronization scheme to NIST, and
since I turn my computer off and on quite frequently, I thought I could
just
invoke "net start w32time" upon start up... Of course this didn't work,
when I installed that command line in autoexec.nt. That's why I posted.

(Given that I have set my computer to appeal to time server
time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov as a reference, all I need to do is to start
that service, w32time, to synchronize my clock to atomic time.) So I
suppose I could use Task Scheduler for this.

Better still, NIST provided me with a convenient executable for the
purpose
of periodic synchronization: nistime-32bit.exe.

That being said, I am still curious about autoexec.nt. When, quite
specifically, is it executed, may I ask? It doesn't seem to happen for
me.

Thanks for the replies.



--
Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Pegasus (MVP) said:
I am running under Windows 2000 Pro + sp4. I have gone into a CMD
window
and typed "autoexec.nt" + [enter]. A file executes OTHER than the
one
and
only autoexec.nt file that I can find in my computer... The one I
find
is
at %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt.

How can this be?
Can anyone refresh my memory? It seems there were various "autoexec"
files
under Windows 95...a long time ago. I have used "attrib" to scan the
system32 directory, which should ferret out hidden files, but I only
see
autoexec.nt...the same one I can edit.

TIA
John


There is only one autoexec.nt. It's the one you found in the System32
folder. Why do you want to execute it? It's a legacy file meant for
legacy applications! If you want a certain command to run at logon
time, place its shortcut into your Startup folder! If you want a certain
command to run at boot time, use the Task Scheduler!
 
D

Dave Patrick

You only need to set the time source once. No need for the logon batch. No
need to start the Windows Time service from batch. Set it's startup type to
'Automatic'

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Since we have agreed that autoexec.nt is a tool for
legacy applications and that its use is inappropriate
under Win2000, why persist in exploring its idiosyncracies?


John B said:
First of all, I had never before invoked "start, run, command"; only
"start,
run, cmd" under Windows 2000. There is a difference. The former invokes
autoexec.nt, while the latter does not. So we have accomplished something
there, at least.

Secondly, your "echo" does indeed work as expected. I just see "We come
on
the sloop John B" on a separate line, in the resultant command window,
with
no protests whatsoever from the operating system.

But other reasonable line entries are rejected as "Bad." (See reply to
David Patrick.) I don't know why "net time /querysntp [enter]" works in a
command window, but not in autoexec.nt.

Thanks for your replies.

The sloop John B.

--
Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Pegasus (MVP) said:
It happens for you too. Open up autoexec.nt, add this
line as a second line, then save the file:

echo We come on the sloop John B

Now click Start / Run / command{OK]

and watch the screen, then remember that command.com
is a legacy 16-bit command processor that should not be
used under Win2000.


Thanks for the astute suggestions. Yes, those two methods are quite
appropriate. I want to invoke a clock synchronization scheme to NIST, and
since I turn my computer off and on quite frequently, I thought I could
just
invoke "net start w32time" upon start up... Of course this didn't
work,
when I installed that command line in autoexec.nt. That's why I
posted.

(Given that I have set my computer to appeal to time server
time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov as a reference, all I need to do is to
start
that service, w32time, to synchronize my clock to atomic time.) So I
suppose I could use Task Scheduler for this.

Better still, NIST provided me with a convenient executable for the
purpose
of periodic synchronization: nistime-32bit.exe.

That being said, I am still curious about autoexec.nt. When, quite
specifically, is it executed, may I ask? It doesn't seem to happen for
me.

Thanks for the replies.



--
Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY

I am running under Windows 2000 Pro + sp4. I have gone into a CMD
window
and typed "autoexec.nt" + [enter]. A file executes OTHER than the one
and
only autoexec.nt file that I can find in my computer... The one I find
is
at %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt.

How can this be?
Can anyone refresh my memory? It seems there were various
"autoexec"
files
under Windows 95...a long time ago. I have used "attrib" to scan
the
system32 directory, which should ferret out hidden files, but I only
see
autoexec.nt...the same one I can edit.

TIA
John


There is only one autoexec.nt. It's the one you found in the System32
folder. Why do you want to execute it? It's a legacy file meant for
legacy applications! If you want a certain command to run at logon
time, place its shortcut into your Startup folder! If you want a certain
command to run at boot time, use the Task Scheduler!
 
J

John B

I have done that, a few days ago, and again today. That method doesn't
correct my computer clock.

There is something wacko going on, beyond even the reported nuances of the
Windows time service application. I have read that if the local computer
clock is FAST, invocation of the service will slow the clock gradually to
bring it into compliance with atomic time. If the local computer clock is
SLOW (i.e, behind atomic time), then the correction will be immediate.

Excerpt from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000pro/maintain/w2kmngd/16_2kwts.mspx
..
If the local clock time of the client is behind the current time received
from the server, the Windows Time service will change the local clock time
immediately.

..
If the local clock time of the client is more than three minutes ahead of
the time on the server, the service will change the local clock time
immediately.

..
If the local clock time of the client is less than three minutes ahead of
the time on the server, the service will quarter or halve the clock
frequency for long enough to synchronize the clocks.

..
If the client is less than 15 seconds ahead, it will halve the frequency;
otherwise, it will quarter the frequency. The amount of time the clock
spends running at an unusual frequency depends on the size of the offset
that is being corrected.

I have just observed this to be the case, through experiment, by moving my
computer clock AHEAD one minute, then attempting correction, and BEHIND one
minute, then attempting correction.

I'm digressing from the context of the original thread here...but for
reason. I want to demonstrate that I have attempted to personally solve
this issue, and more importantly, to share my dilemma.

Dilemma? Yes. There's a larger problem. And I suspect its essence lies in
the nuances of the time service, rather than the primary topic in our
thread.

Yes, I can automatically start the Windows Time Service in the manner you
recommended. But (dilemma), it doesn't correct my local computer clock, if
I do that. I have to "restart" the service. It's as if I'm premature in
starting the Windows Time Service, if I do it automatically. Perhaps it
starts so early that the computer isn't ready to poll the internet yet, to
get the correct atomic time.

So if you've got the answer, now that I've digressed, I'd appreciate your
sharing it with me.

Regards,
John B



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Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Dave Patrick said:
You only need to set the time source once. No need for the logon batch. No
need to start the Windows Time service from batch. Set it's startup type to
'Automatic'

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

John B said:
I'm doing that, quite exactly. But as I have put "net time /querysntp" as
a
line entry in autoexec.nt, that line is replied to with "Bad command or
file
name" upon my invocation of "start, run, command [enter]"

Once I open a command window, then "net time /querysntp [enter]" will
indeed
function as expected.

I don't know why ALL my line entries are "so flunked" when invoked within
autoexec.nt from "start, run, command [enter]"

Your comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

The sloop John B.
 
J

John B

OK. I'll simply conclude that "autoexec.nt" is not only idiosyncratic, but
flawed. No big deal... as you imply. It's isolated in its "antiquity." I
suppose I could use a PIF of something like that, if I ever need to raise
some antiquated use, with preliminary settings. I did that some ten years
ago, under Windows 95.

Thanks for your fine responses.

Regards,
John B

--
Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Pegasus (MVP) said:
Since we have agreed that autoexec.nt is a tool for
legacy applications and that its use is inappropriate
under Win2000, why persist in exploring its idiosyncracies?


John B said:
First of all, I had never before invoked "start, run, command"; only
"start,
run, cmd" under Windows 2000. There is a difference. The former invokes
autoexec.nt, while the latter does not. So we have accomplished something
there, at least.

Secondly, your "echo" does indeed work as expected. I just see "We come
on
the sloop John B" on a separate line, in the resultant command window,
with
no protests whatsoever from the operating system.

But other reasonable line entries are rejected as "Bad." (See reply to
David Patrick.) I don't know why "net time /querysntp [enter]" works in a
command window, but not in autoexec.nt.

Thanks for your replies.

The sloop John B.

--
Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY
Pegasus (MVP) said:
It happens for you too. Open up autoexec.nt, add this
line as a second line, then save the file:

echo We come on the sloop John B

Now click Start / Run / command{OK]

and watch the screen, then remember that command.com
is a legacy 16-bit command processor that should not be
used under Win2000.


Thanks for the astute suggestions. Yes, those two methods are quite
appropriate. I want to invoke a clock synchronization scheme to
NIST,
and
since I turn my computer off and on quite frequently, I thought I could
just
invoke "net start w32time" upon start up... Of course this didn't
work,
when I installed that command line in autoexec.nt. That's why I
posted.

(Given that I have set my computer to appeal to time server
time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov as a reference, all I need to do is to
start
that service, w32time, to synchronize my clock to atomic time.) So I
suppose I could use Task Scheduler for this.

Better still, NIST provided me with a convenient executable for the
purpose
of periodic synchronization: nistime-32bit.exe.

That being said, I am still curious about autoexec.nt. When, quite
specifically, is it executed, may I ask? It doesn't seem to happen for
me.

Thanks for the replies.



--
Sent via OE by John, from MERCURY

I am running under Windows 2000 Pro + sp4. I have gone into a CMD
window
and typed "autoexec.nt" + [enter]. A file executes OTHER than the one
and
only autoexec.nt file that I can find in my computer... The one I find
is
at %systemroot%\system32\autoexec.nt.

How can this be?
Can anyone refresh my memory? It seems there were various
"autoexec"
files
under Windows 95...a long time ago. I have used "attrib" to scan
the
system32 directory, which should ferret out hidden files, but I only
see
autoexec.nt...the same one I can edit.

TIA
John


There is only one autoexec.nt. It's the one you found in the System32
folder. Why do you want to execute it? It's a legacy file meant for
legacy applications! If you want a certain command to run at logon
time, place its shortcut into your Startup folder! If you want a certain
command to run at boot time, use the Task Scheduler!
 

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