Auto Reboot during installations of softwares

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mingo

Hi, I need help bad.... :cry:

My comp is AMD 1400 with motherboard A7A266, 768MB DDR 266Hz. In the
installation of windows XP was fine..but once I start installing
stuff like office XP or any programs that need more than around 5
mins to complete...the computer restarts itself. I believe that in
medium usage of the CPU, the computer will restart. Is there any
tools/softwares to help me know what's wrong or anyone know what
exactly is the problem?

Thanks in advance~
 
S

spodosaurus

mingo said:
Hi, I need help bad.... :cry:

My comp is AMD 1400 with motherboard A7A266, 768MB DDR 266Hz. In the
installation of windows XP was fine..but once I start installing
stuff like office XP or any programs that need more than around 5
mins to complete...the computer restarts itself. I believe that in
medium usage of the CPU, the computer will restart. Is there any
tools/softwares to help me know what's wrong or anyone know what
exactly is the problem?

Thanks in advance~

Your motherboard does not make use of the AMD on die thermal diode, so
what it reports will be from an external temperature sensor beneath the
CPU. Does ASUS make a motherboard monitor type program that came on your
install cdrom? If not, try out the program motherboard monitor (it's
free, IIRC). It sounds to me like a thermal issue is causing reboots.
Make sure your CPU, case, and PSU fans are all still running properly!
When you report back on your operating temperatures we can have a guess
at other potential problems :)

Cheers,

Ari

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transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
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B

BruceM

AMD need a VERY good power supply apparently. If that's not your problem
then it has got to be a temperature issue.
There are many progs that will report your temps like SiSoft or Everest.
Or if you do a bit of work & then quickly reboot your machine & go into your
bios setup, it usually reports temps & fan speeds in there.
My guess is power supply first choice?
 
M

mingo

Hi, I tried using Siso to monitor the temperatures but when doing the
analysis, it said "unable to connect to environmental monitor".
 
S

spodosaurus

mingo said:
Hi, I tried using Siso to monitor the temperatures but when doing the
analysis, it said "unable to connect to environmental monitor".

Try "motherboard monitor" then:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=311

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
M

mingo

Hi, my temperature detected by Motherboard monitor is:

Case 34 C
CPU 65 C
sensor 3 0C <-the spacing was intended...that's what the program
gave me
 
S

spodosaurus

mingo said:
Hi, my temperature detected by Motherboard monitor is:

Case 34 C
CPU 65 C
sensor 3 0C <-the spacing was intended...that's what the program
gave me

Even for that CPU, that's a bit hotter than I'd be comfortable with. Try
running some programs such as a game or one of the software
installations you mentioned and note what the temperatures are.

Ari

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
M

mingo

Normally when I run games like Counter-Strike, or install softwares
like MATLAB, Office XP, etc... The temperature of the CPU is around
70-72 celcius
 
S

spodosaurus

mingo said:
Normally when I run games like Counter-Strike, or install softwares
like MATLAB, Office XP, etc... The temperature of the CPU is around
70-72 celcius

The maximum operating temperature of that CPU is said to be 95C, so
you're technically within specs. That said, 72 is too high, in my
opinion. Could you post the full specs of your system, including power
supply brand and wattage and case fans?

Ari

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
M

mingo

HI Ari,

Thanks for helping out. I've just replaced my power supply (from a
300W to a 400W) and now it seems to be ok. The temperature is still
at that range though..but if it's within the specs, I'm still
good..rite?
 
S

spodosaurus

mingo said:
HI Ari,

Thanks for helping out. I've just replaced my power supply (from a
300W to a 400W) and now it seems to be ok. The temperature is still
at that range though..but if it's within the specs, I'm still
good..rite?

They were built to run hot (I think those older ones were pre-thermal
diode, too). You'll probably get better life if you keep it slightly
cooler, though. If you already have a case fan, then there's really not
much more you can quickly do without replacing the HSF (not too big of a
job, but a pain in the bum because the only really safe way to do it is
to remove the motherboard). If you don't have a case fan blowing air out
the back in parallel with your PSU fan, I'd recommend getting one. I
have quiet 80mm Vantec Stealth fans in my computers. My athlon xp 2400+
runs at 37-42C (42C being during gaming) using the default HSF and the
one case fan in parallel with the PSU fan exhausting the hot air out the
back.

Glad that it's all working now! I love my Antec TruePower 380W, by the
way :)

Ari


--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 

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