Attn: Canon PIXMA & i Series Users

M

measekite

He is absolutely right. To make the black colors are mixed by the
printer. That is why I went for the IP4000. It uses both and produces
better photos with enhanced contrast.
 
M

Mapanari

He is absolutely right. To make the black colors are mixed by the
printer. That is why I went for the IP4000. It uses both and produces
better photos with enhanced contrast.

Ron Cohen wrote:


The black dye ink (bci 3e bk)in the iP3000 must be used only then for text I
guess.

I just printed out a 4x color photo on my iP3000 and it's better than you can
get at Ritz Camera.

What I need now is a home kit to devlop my 35mm color film negative stock, so
I can slide scan it and do ALL my photo and printing at home now!
 
C

Caitlin

Mapanari said:
The black dye ink (bci 3e bk)in the iP3000 must be used only then for
text I
guess.

I just printed out a 4x color photo on my iP3000 and it's better than you
can
get at Ritz Camera.

What I need now is a home kit to devlop my 35mm color film negative stock,
so
I can slide scan it and do ALL my photo and printing at home now!

Huh? Wouldn't buying a digital camera be a little cheaper?
 
R

Ron Cohen

You've got the ink specifications confused. The BCI-3ebk is a pigment based
black. The black ink from the BCI-3 tank is used for the plain paper setting
instead of having the photo inks mixed to make a composite black. Saying it
is for exclusively for text assumes intelligence on the part of the printer
that isn't there.
 
M

measekite

Mapanari said:
@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:





The black dye ink (bci 3e bk)in the iP3000 must be used only then for text I
guess.
bci-3eBK is pigmented ink and is used only for text.
 
R

_R

To make the black colors are mixed by the
printer. That is why I went for the IP4000. It uses both and produces
better photos with enhanced contrast.

I missed the start of this thread (it's off my server already).
You mean you prefer the IP4000 to the 5000? or to the 3000?

My i850 has died*, at least the text output (odd...it seems like it
handles text separately from graphics??!). The printer didn't last
long, so I'm hesitant to buy another Canon. On the other hand,
I've got ink carts for it, and they'll work in some of the IPx000-
series**.

I like the larger black cartridge, given that I can use it for
emergency backup for my B&W laser. If I go with Canon again,
I'd like to get something cheap cause I'm assuming it won't last.
Is there a good reason to go with the IP4000 rather than the IP3000?

Are there comparable Epsons with better longevity, or is this
'luck of the draw'?

_R

*I thought the i850's black nozzle was clogged, but it looks like
some of the black graphics patterns display OK. My Canon scanner
died today too after very little use. Go, Canon!

**The irony is that I paid as much for the spare set of ink carts as
the current discount prices for the IP3000. May as well just toss
the printer when the ink runs out.
 
M

measekite

IP4000 vs IP3000

When printing Photos the IP4000 has an extra dye black cartridge for
increased contrast and better mileage on colors. The IP3000 has to mix
the black from CYM and as a result it uses more color ink.

IP4000 vs IP5000

If your emphasis is on photos go for the IP4000. If your emphasis is on
business printing go for the IP5000. If you are balanced you need to
decide if you want marginally better photos (IP4000) and faster speed
or significantly better text (IP5000) with slower speed. The difference
is about $40.00. Also it is unknown if the 1pl droplet size used for
text printing will have a greater tendency for print clogging.

I opted for the IP4000. The IP5000 was not out at the time. I still
would have bought the IP4000 because I want the best photos and the
fastest speed. I plan on getting the PIXMA version of the i9900 if
Canon decides to make it.

Right now I am using Canon OEM inks at $9.00 from Costco and the best
paper I have used so far is Canon Photo Paper Pro. I have purchased but
have not used Costco/Kirkland Photo Glossy Paper. Some say it may be
Ilford Gallerie.

Hope this has been helpful.
 
M

Mapanari

"Caitlin" <[email protected]>
wrotecom.au:
Huh? Wouldn't buying a digital camera be a little cheaper?

Comparable prints:

Digital camera
vs
Minolta high end SLR with 28-50 lens/60-105 Zoom and 200-400 zoom with 34
cokin filter lens system, hotshoe flash with 30' of usable distance etc
etc.

No comparison.

When they make a digital camera in the 7 megapixal range with all the
above, and not made of cheap plastic and room for ony two AA batteries, for
the same price, then we'll talk.

My camera cost $400
Comprable digital camera cost $4,000.

Sorry, I'd rather devlop my own negatives for good photopgraphy, and keep
the digital camera for Ebay and Aunt Sally's horrible rugrats.
 
M

Mapanari

_R said:
I missed the start of this thread (it's off my server already).
You mean you prefer the IP4000 to the 5000? or to the 3000?

Consumer reports rates the canon printers in exact disorder from their
price; the more expensive are rated least.
The iP4000 is the second highest rated printer of them all, including hp
etc.

For some reason they dint include the iP3000, but I think because it's very
simular to the 4000.


Are there comparable Epsons with better longevity, or is this
'luck of the draw'?

I bought it because of Epinions.com, Amazon.com, Consumer reports, my own
experience, and a few other sources.

I bought it because I din't see that much more bang for my bucks in buying
the 4000 over the 3000.

This weekend in Texas the iP6000 was on sale for under $150. Plus there is
a worldwide Canon rebate.
_R

*I thought the i850's black nozzle was clogged, but it looks like
some of the black graphics patterns display OK. My Canon scanner
died today too after very little use. Go, Canon!

Canon has the highest rated scanner in the last C.R. issue.
**The irony is that I paid as much for the spare set of ink carts as
the current discount prices for the IP3000. May as well just toss
the printer when the ink runs out.

Funny, I found a website that sells these carts for $4.99 each. Most
others are about $7.00.
 

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