Att Ramesh - Toolbars issue

J

Jake

Hi Ramesh,

I have posted this issue earlier without much success
Searching and digging everything related to toolbars, I came across your site
It holds a wealth of information, but it dont address what I'm after
Thought give it another try, so here comes:

Is it possible to create a windows explorer(not IE) custom toolbar that can be enabled/disabled by a tick mark,
and will not disappear from the toolbars dropdown box when disabled?

Right clicking on quick launch/toolbars/ has 4 such 'permanent' entries:
Links, Address, Desktop, Quicklaunch
New made custom toolbars get on that dropdown box too, with a tick mark, but fall off the box when disabling

Upon reneeded, they have to be referenced towards the folder holding the toolbar content every time again

Disabling the 'Desktop' toolbar entry here merely unticks it, hides it, but _stays_ in the dropdown box list

Also, would it be possible to have the 'small icons' as default option selected when a new toolbar is created?

I didnt find the trick yet, maybe you have ?

Thanks in advance
 
R

Ramesh [MVP]

Jake,

Unfortunately, this is by design. To have the custom folder/toolbar entry (even after you uncheck it) in the Toolbars submenu, the custom folder/toolbar need to be implemented as a Band object. This involves programming using VC++ (i think). Address Bar, Links bar and others (like Language bar) appear by default because they are band objects and they have their own GUIDs (which in-turn have their own inprocserver DLLs), and not a normal folder. If you're a programmer and want to implement a custom deskband, please try this in IE Programming groups.

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k


Hi Ramesh,

I have posted this issue earlier without much success
Searching and digging everything related to toolbars, I came across your site
It holds a wealth of information, but it dont address what I'm after
Thought give it another try, so here comes:

Is it possible to create a windows explorer(not IE) custom toolbar that can be enabled/disabled by a tick mark,
and will not disappear from the toolbars dropdown box when disabled?

Right clicking on quick launch/toolbars/ has 4 such 'permanent' entries:
Links, Address, Desktop, Quicklaunch
New made custom toolbars get on that dropdown box too, with a tick mark, but fall off the box when disabling

Upon reneeded, they have to be referenced towards the folder holding the toolbar content every time again

Disabling the 'Desktop' toolbar entry here merely unticks it, hides it, but _stays_ in the dropdown box list

Also, would it be possible to have the 'small icons' as default option selected when a new toolbar is created?

I didnt find the trick yet, maybe you have ?

Thanks in advance
 
A

Alex Zhang

Hello Jake,

Thank you for post here.

I agree with Ramesh. This is by design. I didn't find any way could create
such toolbar.

If you have any other issues, please feel free to let me know. I am glad to
be of assistance.

Have a nice day!

Thanks and regards,

Alex Zhang
Microsoft Partner Online Support
Get Secure! - <www.microsoft.com/security>
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| From: "Ramesh [MVP]" <sramesh2k@\REMOV_NOSPAM\.hotmail.com>
| References: <[email protected]>
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| Jake,
| Unfortunately, this is by design. To have the custom folder/toolbar entry
(even after you uncheck it) in the Toolbars submenu, the custom
folder/toolbar need to be implemented as a Band object. This involves
programming using VC++ (i think). Address Bar, Links bar and others (like
Language bar) appear by default because they are band objects and they have
their own GUIDs (which in-turn have their own inprocserver DLLs), and not a
normal folder. If you're a programmer and want to implement a custom
deskband, please try this in IE Programming groups.
| --
| Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
| Windows XP Shell
| http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k
| Hi Ramesh,
| I have posted this issue earlier without much success
| Searching and digging everything related to toolbars, I came across your
site
| It holds a wealth of information, but it dont address what I'm after
| Thought give it another try, so here comes:
| Is it possible to create a windows explorer(not IE) custom toolbar that
can be enabled/disabled by a tick mark,
| and will not disappear from the toolbars dropdown box when disabled?
| Right clicking on quick launch/toolbars/ has 4 such 'permanent' entries:
| Links, Address, Desktop, Quicklaunch
| New made custom toolbars get on that dropdown box too, with a tick mark,
but fall off the box when disabling
| Upon reneeded, they have to be referenced towards the folder holding the
toolbar content every time again
| Disabling the 'Desktop' toolbar entry here merely unticks it, hides it,
but _stays_ in the dropdown box list
| Also, would it be possible to have the 'small icons' as default option
selected when a new toolbar is created?
| I didnt find the trick yet, maybe you have ?
| Thanks in advance
| --
| Replies in the same thread please
| Regards Jake
|
 
R

Ramesh [MVP]

Thanks for confirming that, Alex.

I just managed to get a sample entry on the Toolbar section, just to check if Explorer caches all the 'Implemented Categories' (Band object entries), yes it did as expected.

HKCR\CLSID\{GUID}\Implemented Categories\{00021492-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}
Now the permanent toolbar entry appeared in the QL Toolbars menu, but an useless entry :) I'm still yet to find a method to enable a permanent folder entry there.

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k



Hello Jake,

Thank you for post here.

I agree with Ramesh. This is by design. I didn't find any way could create
such toolbar.

If you have any other issues, please feel free to let me know. I am glad to
be of assistance.

Have a nice day!

Thanks and regards,

Alex Zhang
Microsoft Partner Online Support
Get Secure! - <www.microsoft.com/security>
=====================================================
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that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
=====================================================
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--------------------
| From: "Ramesh [MVP]" <sramesh2k@\REMOV_NOSPAM\.hotmail.com>
| References: <[email protected]>
| Subject: Re: Att Ramesh - Toolbars issue
| Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:36:02 +0530
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|
| Jake,
| Unfortunately, this is by design. To have the custom folder/toolbar entry
(even after you uncheck it) in the Toolbars submenu, the custom
folder/toolbar need to be implemented as a Band object. This involves
programming using VC++ (i think). Address Bar, Links bar and others (like
Language bar) appear by default because they are band objects and they have
their own GUIDs (which in-turn have their own inprocserver DLLs), and not a
normal folder. If you're a programmer and want to implement a custom
deskband, please try this in IE Programming groups.
| --
| Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
| Windows XP Shell
| http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k
| Hi Ramesh,
| I have posted this issue earlier without much success
| Searching and digging everything related to toolbars, I came across your
site
| It holds a wealth of information, but it dont address what I'm after
| Thought give it another try, so here comes:
| Is it possible to create a windows explorer(not IE) custom toolbar that
can be enabled/disabled by a tick mark,
| and will not disappear from the toolbars dropdown box when disabled?
| Right clicking on quick launch/toolbars/ has 4 such 'permanent' entries:
| Links, Address, Desktop, Quicklaunch
| New made custom toolbars get on that dropdown box too, with a tick mark,
but fall off the box when disabling
| Upon reneeded, they have to be referenced towards the folder holding the
toolbar content every time again
| Disabling the 'Desktop' toolbar entry here merely unticks it, hides it,
but _stays_ in the dropdown box list
| Also, would it be possible to have the 'small icons' as default option
selected when a new toolbar is created?
| I didnt find the trick yet, maybe you have ?
| Thanks in advance
| --
| Replies in the same thread please
| Regards Jake
|
 
A

Alex Zhang

Hello Jake,

Just checking in to see if you have any update.

If you have any other issues, please feel free to let me know. I am glad to
be of assistance.

Have a nice day!

Thanks and regards,

Alex Zhang
Microsoft Partner Online Support
Get Secure! - <www.microsoft.com/security>
=====================================================
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that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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| From: "Ramesh [MVP]" <sramesh2k@\REMOV_NOSPAM\.hotmail.com>
| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
| Subject: Re: Att Ramesh - Toolbars issue
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|
| Thanks for confirming that, Alex.
| I just managed to get a sample entry on the Toolbar section, just to
check if Explorer caches all the 'Implemented Categories' (Band object
entries), yes it did as expected.
| HKCR\CLSID\{GUID}\Implemented
Categories\{00021492-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}
| Now the permanent toolbar entry appeared in the QL Toolbars menu, but an
useless entry :) I'm still yet to find a method to enable a permanent
folder entry there.
| --
| Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
| Windows XP Shell
| http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k
| Hello Jake,
| Thank you for post here.
| I agree with Ramesh. This is by design. I didn't find any way could
create
| such toolbar.
| If you have any other issues, please feel free to let me know. I am glad
to
| be of assistance.
| Have a nice day!
| Thanks and regards,
| Alex Zhang
| Microsoft Partner Online Support
| Get Secure! - <www.microsoft.com/security>
| =====================================================
| When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
| that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| =====================================================
| This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
| --------------------
| | From: "Ramesh [MVP]" <sramesh2k@\REMOV_NOSPAM\.hotmail.com>
| | References: <[email protected]>
| | Subject: Re: Att Ramesh - Toolbars issue
| | Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:36:02 +0530
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| |
| | Jake,
| | Unfortunately, this is by design. To have the custom folder/toolbar
entry
| (even after you uncheck it) in the Toolbars submenu, the custom
| folder/toolbar need to be implemented as a Band object. This involves
| programming using VC++ (i think). Address Bar, Links bar and others (like
| Language bar) appear by default because they are band objects and they
have
| their own GUIDs (which in-turn have their own inprocserver DLLs), and not
a
| normal folder. If you're a programmer and want to implement a custom
| deskband, please try this in IE Programming groups.
| | --
| | Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
| | Windows XP Shell
| | http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k
| | | Hi Ramesh,
| | I have posted this issue earlier without much success
| | Searching and digging everything related to toolbars, I came across
your
| site
| | It holds a wealth of information, but it dont address what I'm after
| | Thought give it another try, so here comes:
| | Is it possible to create a windows explorer(not IE) custom toolbar that
| can be enabled/disabled by a tick mark,
| | and will not disappear from the toolbars dropdown box when disabled?
| | Right clicking on quick launch/toolbars/ has 4 such 'permanent' entries:
| | Links, Address, Desktop, Quicklaunch
| | New made custom toolbars get on that dropdown box too, with a tick
mark,
| but fall off the box when disabling
| | Upon reneeded, they have to be referenced towards the folder holding
the
| toolbar content every time again
| | Disabling the 'Desktop' toolbar entry here merely unticks it, hides it,
| but _stays_ in the dropdown box list
| | Also, would it be possible to have the 'small icons' as default option
selected when a new toolbar is created?
| | I didnt find the trick yet, maybe you have ?
| | Thanks in advance
| | --
| | Replies in the same thread please
| | Regards Jake
| |
|
 
J

Jake

Hi Alex,
No... unfortunately not...
Looks like my wishes always are too demanding lol
and thats true not only for the puter things... :)
Tool band programming is above my skills so :)
But will keep eyes open for anything that looks like toolbar :)
Big thanks go out to everyone trying to help me
 
J

Jack Wang [MSFT]

Hi

This is a great idea for a future product enhancement. I'd recommend that
you forward the recommendation to the Microsoft Wish Program:



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| Subject: Re: Att Ramesh - Toolbars issue
| From: "Jake" <[email protected]>
| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
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| Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:49:42 GMT
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|
| Hi Alex,
| No... unfortunately not...
| Looks like my wishes always are too demanding lol
| and thats true not only for the puter things... :)
| Tool band programming is above my skills so :)
| But will keep eyes open for anything that looks like toolbar :)
| Big thanks go out to everyone trying to help me
| --
| Replies in the same thread please
| Regards Jake
|
 

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