ATI RAGE 128 PRO - Motherboard Intel 845GE


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draregcorreo

Hello,

A friend of mine has given me an ATI AGP Card RAGE 128 PRO and I would
like to know if it is safe to connect it to a Fujitsu Motherboard
(Chipset Intel 845GE).

I have read in:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18872
that the RAGE 128 Pro card can work at 3.3 V & 1.5 V.
In other hand my AGP slot ONLY support 1.5V AGP screen controllers.
As the Rage Pro Card has an Universal AGP connector there is no problem
in pluging it to the Motherboard AGP Slot, BUT will it be safe for the
Mothercard? Is it any chance that the AGP card work at 3.3v and fries
my motherboard ?

Thanks in advance,
Daniel R.A
 
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Batman or Superman

Hello,

A friend of mine has given me an ATI AGP Card RAGE 128 PRO and I would
like to know if it is safe to connect it to a Fujitsu Motherboard
(Chipset Intel 845GE).

I have read in:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18872
that the RAGE 128 Pro card can work at 3.3 V & 1.5 V.
In other hand my AGP slot ONLY support 1.5V AGP screen controllers.
As the Rage Pro Card has an Universal AGP connector there is no problem
in pluging it to the Motherboard AGP Slot, BUT will it be safe for the
Mothercard? Is it any chance that the AGP card work at 3.3v and fries
my motherboard ?

Thanks in advance,
Daniel R.A
If the AGP slot only supports 1.5v, then only run the card at that. It
should be fine.


Am I Batman or Superman? I'm so confused.
 
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Derek

Hello,

A friend of mine has given me an ATI AGP Card RAGE 128 PRO and I would
like to know if it is safe to connect it to a Fujitsu Motherboard
(Chipset Intel 845GE).

I have read in:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18872
that the RAGE 128 Pro card can work at 3.3 V & 1.5 V.
In other hand my AGP slot ONLY support 1.5V AGP screen controllers.
As the Rage Pro Card has an Universal AGP connector there is no problem
in pluging it to the Motherboard AGP Slot, BUT will it be safe for the
Mothercard? Is it any chance that the AGP card work at 3.3v and fries
my motherboard ?

Thanks in advance,
Daniel R.A
The video card is a load, it draws power, it does not create voltages
that could fry a motherboard. Now, as a load if it shorted (was a
faulty video card) then it could suck to many amps and cause some
damage, hopefully the power supply would kickout before any damage.

As the card works at both voltages, I think you're safe to install it.

Derek
 
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First of One

A friend of mine has given me an ATI AGP Card RAGE 128 PRO and I would
like to know if it is safe to connect it to a Fujitsu Motherboard
(Chipset Intel 845GE).

Never heard of Fujitsu selling retail motherboards. Is this board out of a
Fujitsu Primergy server?
I have read in:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=18872
that the RAGE 128 Pro card can work at 3.3 V & 1.5 V.
In other hand my AGP slot ONLY support 1.5V AGP screen controllers.

Yes, it will be safe for the motherboard. The card will automatically take
the 1.5 V signaling voltage.
As the Rage Pro Card has an Universal AGP connector there is no problem
in pluging it to the Motherboard AGP Slot, BUT will it be safe for the
Mothercard? Is it any chance that the AGP card work at 3.3v and fries
my motherboard ?

There's a reason for the keyed slots. :) Except for a small number of early
nVidia Riva128 cards, if the slot keys match with the card, you can be
assured of signaling voltage compatibility.
 
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draregcorreo

Thanks Derek.
Thanks "First of One".
Never heard of Fujitsu selling retail motherboards. Is this board out of a
Fujitsu Primergy server?

It is Fujitsu PC Scaleo. Motherboard Reference:
http://www.fujitsu-siemens.co.uk/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/boards/motherboards/
Model: D1520
There's a reason for the keyed slots. :) Except for a small number of early
nVidia Riva128 cards, if the slot keys match with the card, you can be
assured of signaling voltage compatibility.

Before pluging I want to be sure because:
1) I read that there are some cards that can cause damage to the
motherboars:
[ Motherboard Reference]
"Some older 3.3 V AGP screen controllers are coded like 1.5 V AGP
screen controllers. The installation of such 3.3 V AGP screen
controllers can cause serious damage to the mainboard and the AGP
screen controller."
2) I found a web site that explain how some AGP universal bus card can
fry I845 motherboard:
http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2001/october/011029_i845_AGP/011029_i845_AGP.htm
My ATI Card: ATI Rage pro 128 is a "good" card , but they also give a
list that include "ATI Rage Fury Maxx - Rage 128 pro" as a problematic
card.

Therefore I am not completely sure about pluging it.

DRA
 
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First of One

"Some older 3.3 V AGP screen controllers are coded like 1.5 V AGP
screen controllers. The installation of such 3.3 V AGP screen
controllers can cause serious damage to the mainboard and the AGP
screen controller."

Indeed. *Some* older 3.3 V AGP screen controllers are coded like 1.5 V AGP
screen controllers. The Rage 128 Pro is not one of them; it is a "genuine"
universal AGP card that can operate at both 3.3 V and 1.5 V.
2) I found a web site that explain how some AGP universal bus card can
fry I845 motherboard:
http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2001/october/
011029_i845_AGP/011029_i845_AGP.htm
My ATI Card: ATI Rage pro 128 is a "good" card , but they also give a
list that include "ATI Rage Fury Maxx - Rage 128 pro" as a problematic

You neglected to read the followup article:
http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2001/november/
011103_i845_AGP/011103_i845_AGP.htm

By the way, Van is a fanatic who treats Intel like a Satan reincarnate. He
blew such a minor issue out of proportion. I would not take any articles on
Vanshardware.com seriously.
 
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Bill

By the way, Van is a fanatic who treats Intel like a Satan reincarnate. He
blew such a minor issue out of proportion. I would not take any articles on
Vanshardware.com seriously.

Which minor issue would that be?

Bill
 
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First of One

What minor issue would that be? The supposed "death tango" between the Intel
i845/i850 boards and 3.3 V AGP cards. Never mind that 99.9% of 3.3V-only AGP
cards (including every 3dfx AGP card ever made - except the Voodoo4, which
could ran at 1.5V) are keyed to prevent the user from inserting the card in
the first place.

You snip out all the relevant sections of my post, then ask "what minor
issue"?
 
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Bill

What minor issue would that be? The supposed "death tango" between the Intel
i845/i850 boards and 3.3 V AGP cards. Never mind that 99.9% of 3.3V-only AGP
cards (including every 3dfx AGP card ever made - except the Voodoo4, which
could ran at 1.5V) are keyed to prevent the user from inserting the card in
the first place.

You snip out all the relevant sections of my post, then ask "what minor
issue"?

Well, that particular article was not so minor to me since I own a
Diamond Viper V770 and I know it has to be jumpered correctly for 3.3
or 1.5. Luckily I don't have any Intel chipped motherboards around
here.

I thought maybe you were refering to some other rant of his.

Bill
 
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First of One

Okay, so your card had to be jumpered. Many motherboards at the time also
required jumpers to set CPU voltages. Almost every PSU sold in North America
has a manual 115/220V slider. Sure it's not foolproof, but it's a documented
feature and the card was designed for it. Far more people blow their
motherboards plugging in poorly-labeled USB headers...

Ironically, cards back then didn't really benefit from the AGP interface. If
nVidia didn't spend so much time designing in OEM "checkbox" features and
offered the TNT2 in PCI form, like the Voodoo3, you wouldn't have this
problem.
 
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