ATI HDTV Component Video Adapter

[Greg]

Oh great users of the ATI products. A humble NVIDIA user comes to you with a
question...

Will the ATI VGA to Component adapter work on an NVIDIA 440 AGP Card? I've
built a small form factor media center pc. The card has VGA and S-Video out.
My television is a JVC 32" CRT with Component In (r,g &b). My stand alone
DVD player interfaces with the TV via the component cables. But now since I
have the media center pc I no longer need the stand alone DVD player. But I
want the component instead of the s-video. Any help or recommendations would
be appreciated.

Greg

 

[First of One]

Nope. Using the HDTV component video adapter actually requires setting YPbPr
timing options specific to tabs in the Catalyst driver control panel, in
addition to the physical dipswitches. See the manual here:
http://www2.ati.com/manuals/CmpVidAd.pdf

BTW, not even all ATi cards are supported, only Radeon 8500 and higher.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Nope. Using the HDTV component video adapter actually requires setting YPbPr
timing options specific to tabs in the Catalyst driver control panel, in
addition to the physical dipswitches. See the manual here:
http://www2.ati.com/manuals/CmpVidAd.pdf

BTW, not even all ATi cards are supported, only Radeon 8500 and higher.

Which one works with the AIW 2006 PCI Express?
Page 3 of the manual doesn't list the AIW 2006 as being one of the
supported cards, but my AIW 2006 manual states that there is an
optional component adapter.

 

[Danny G.]

Which one works with the AIW 2006 PCI Express?
Page 3 of the manual doesn't list the AIW 2006 as being one of the
supported cards, but my AIW 2006 manual states that there is an
optional component adapter.

I'm no expert but...
I think that CmpVidAd.pdf might only apply to older cards. My x1300pro is nothing like that and came with the adapter.
There are no jumpers and I believe any display is hot swappable.

 

[First of One]

Which one works with the AIW 2006 PCI Express?

Your card has only a DVI port, so it's best served by this one.
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2537967

Page 3 of the manual doesn't list the AIW 2006 as being one of the
supported cards, but my AIW 2006 manual states that there is an
optional component adapter.

Note I said "Radeon 8500 and higher". The manual was probably published
around the time of the Radeon 9700, and never got updated as new cards are
released. My X1900 Crossfire master card came with a DVI-component adapter,
dipswitches and all, though the manual wasn't included!

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Your card has only a DVI port, so it's best served by this one.
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2537967


Note I said "Radeon 8500 and higher". The manual was probably published
around the time of the Radeon 9700, and never got updated as new cards are
released. My X1900 Crossfire master card came with a DVI-component adapter,
dipswitches and all, though the manual wasn't included!

I bought the card 3 months ago.

Isn't the AIW 2006 "higher" than the Radeon 8500?

The manual appears NOT to be a general manual, but is specific to the
AIW 2006 PCI Express. The output adapter has an S-video connection,
the so-called HD output adapter is identical, but with component
connectors instead of the S-video connector. How is it HD if it goes
through a component connection?

 

[Greg]

Thanks.

I may have to end up getting a low profile ATI card then. Any
recommendations?

 

[First of One]

Isn't the AIW 2006 "higher" than the Radeon 8500?

The AIW 2006 is based on the X1300, so yes it will work. I think we've been
talking about different adapters, though. The one I referred to earlier
plugs directly to the DVI port: http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2537967
.. This one will work with all cards higher than the 8500.

The one mentioned in the AIW 2006 manual with the breakout box is more
proprietary to the AIW cards, available here:
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2693358

Both will work with your card and offer comparable quality. Of course, the
first one ties up the DVI port, which may or may not be a nuisance depending
on whether the comp will be an HTPC.

The manual appears NOT to be a general manual, but is specific to the
AIW 2006 PCI Express. The output adapter has an S-video connection,
the so-called HD output adapter is identical, but with component
connectors instead of the S-video connector. How is it HD if it goes
through a component connection?

I think you meant to ask "How is it HD if it goes through an S-video
connection?" Take a closer look at the photos on the ATI store web page. The
round red plug has ten pins. A standard S-video port only has four pins.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

The AIW 2006 is based on the X1300, so yes it will work. I think we've been
talking about different adapters, though. The one I referred to earlier
plugs directly to the DVI port: http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2537967
. This one will work with all cards higher than the 8500.

The one mentioned in the AIW 2006 manual with the breakout box is more
proprietary to the AIW cards, available here:
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2693358

Both will work with your card and offer comparable quality. Of course, the
first one ties up the DVI port, which may or may not be a nuisance depending
on whether the comp will be an HTPC.


I think you meant to ask "How is it HD if it goes through an S-video
connection?" Take a closer look at the photos on the ATI store web page. The
round red plug has ten pins. A standard S-video port only has four pins.

No, I meant to ask exactly what I asked. Componet video is not HD
video, so how is it that the componet adapter sold by ATI will pass a
HD signal?

 

[First of One]

Component video cable has enough bandwidth to transmit analog video at
1080i, so the adapter is passing an HD signal. Of course, the quality won't
be as good as a digital connection.

What kind of inputs does your TV accept? Can it take a digital input like
DVI or HDMI? If that's the case you don't need any of the dongles or
breakout boxes. Just use a simple DVI cable or a DVI-HDMI cable to connect
your card to the TV.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Component video cable has enough bandwidth to transmit analog video at
1080i, so the adapter is passing an HD signal. Of course, the quality won't
be as good as a digital connection.

What kind of inputs does your TV accept? Can it take a digital input like
DVI or HDMI? If that's the case you don't need any of the dongles or
breakout boxes. Just use a simple DVI cable or a DVI-HDMI cable to connect
your card to the TV.

My TV takes all kinds of input. For some reason the S-video input's
quality is the same as the HDMI input's quality; I can't tell the
difference.

 

[Chuck U. Farley]

My TV takes all kinds of input. For some reason the S-video input's

quality is the same as the HDMI input's quality; I can't tell the
difference.

If _you_ can't tell the difference, then there is no difference.

 

[T Shadow]

No, I meant to ask exactly what I asked. Componet video is not HD
video, so how is it that the componet adapter sold by ATI will pass a
HD signal?

Sounds like your confusing Composite(same as S-Video with the signals
combined) and Component(RGB).

Didn't realize AIW 2006 PCI Express wasn't based on the same GPU as the AGP
card.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

Sounds like your confusing Composite(same as S-Video with the signals
combined) and Component(RGB).

Sound like you are comfusing Composite and S-video. They are NOT the
same thing.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

If _you_ can't tell the difference, then there is no difference.

Don't worry, be happy.

Smoke a joint, eat some doritos, watch "Up In Smoke", and all will be
allright.

 

[T Shadow]

Sound like you are comfusing Composite and S-video. They are NOT the
same thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Video

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Video

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video

And this proves what? I assume you think it proves that S-video and
Composite video are the same.

They are not the same.

 

[Chuck U. Farley]

My TV takes all kinds of input. For some reason the S-video input's

Don't worry, be happy.

Smoke a joint, eat some doritos, watch "Up In Smoke", and all will be
allright.

I'm not the moron who can't tell the difference between an analog S-video
powered display on a "my TV takes all kinds of input' versus a digital HDMI
signal so _I'm_ obviously not the one stoned out of their gourd so bad I
can't see.

T Shadow knows a whole lot more about video displays and AIW cards than you
do... but then again given _your_ knowledge of the subject, that's really
not saying much. (no offense T Shadow <g>)

Now run along little troll as First of One has already answered your
question, you're just too stupid to realize it, and too visually impaired to
notice the difference.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

I'm not the moron who can't tell the difference between an analog S-video
powered display on a "my TV takes all kinds of input' versus a digital HDMI
signal so _I'm_ obviously not the one stoned out of their gourd so bad I
can't see.

You realize there are limits to human senses (including vision), don't
you moron? Therefore:
"Looks the same to human eyes" IS NOT EQUAL TO "is the same".
Is this too hard for you to follow, moron?

T Shadow knows a whole lot more about video displays and AIW cards than you
do... but then again given _your_ knowledge of the subject, that's really
not saying much. (no offense T Shadow <g>)

Now run along little troll as First of One has already answered your
question, you're just too stupid to realize it, and too visually impaired to
notice the difference.

That he did, idiot.
If you knew he did, then why did you feel the need to post you little
pearl of wisdom?