Ati All in Wonder cards

[Guest]

thousands of people bought all in wonder cards and expected them to work in
vista.
Ati tech support says this is microsofts fault. We want our expensive
harware to work asap!

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[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

ATI have Vista drivers for a variety of cards.. is your card listed among
the drivers available?

thousands of people bought all in wonder cards and expected them to work
in
vista.
Ati tech support says this is microsofts fault. We want our expensive
harware to work asap!

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[JW]

The ATI Website does have drivers for the graphics part of the AIW cards and
it also states that they have no Vista drivers for the tuners on the cards
at this time. Hopefully after they finish the developement of their
graphics card drivers for Vista they will develop support for the AIW card
tuners so that users can at least run the ATI MMI application on Vista.

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

An misleading site then.. I clicked on TV Tuners for the 550 and gotten
this..

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista32/theater550-vista32.html

The ATI Website does have drivers for the graphics part of the AIW cards
and it also states that they have no Vista drivers for the tuners on the
cards at this time. Hopefully after they finish the developement of their
graphics card drivers for Vista they will develop support for the AIW card
tuners so that users can at least run the ATI MMI application on Vista.

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[Art]

For the record thats not the card he's talking about.

I have used this with success for captures other features etc...

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334691881

YMMV. HTH.

Art

An misleading site then.. I clicked on TV Tuners for the 550 and gotten
this..

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista32/theater550-vista32.html

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[JW]

I don't consider the following misleading for an All In Wonder ATI card:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista32/common-vista32.html

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

I was kidding a little.. I looked at the ATI site, and there are graphics
and TV Tuner drivers available.. maybe not for every single ATI All In
Wonder card ever, but certainly some.. I just picked out one of them as I
don't see any mention of a specific card in the OP.. One has to 'wonder' if
the OP checked it out recently?

I don't consider the following misleading for an All In Wonder ATI card:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista32/common-vista32.html

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[Tom Lake]

An misleading site then.. I clicked on TV Tuners for the 550 and gotten
this..

The other posters are talking about All-In-Wonder cards, not dedicated tuner
cards.
Yes, ATI has Vista drivers for their 550 but no, they don't have drivers for
the AIW series.

Tom Lake

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. and there was I hoping that ATI were doing a better job
than nVidia..

The other posters are talking about All-In-Wonder cards, not dedicated
tuner cards.
Yes, ATI has Vista drivers for their 550 but no, they don't have drivers
for the AIW series.

Tom Lake

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[BSchnur]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. and there was I hoping that ATI were doing a better job

than nVidia..

The difference for now is that ATI basically focused on new sales with
their drivers (sort of like other companies out there in the software
world...). Meaning the AIW cards are old sales, just like Radeon
9200/9250 are old sales. Sadly, the 9200/9250 cards are still being
sold -- they work in Vista with generic support.

My sense is that nVidia may be more inclusive in their driver
development and that this might be slowing up their releases.

 

[JW]

Mike are least it looks like you now understand the problem.
The AIW cards actually act like two cards buitlt as one.
The have a graphics chip which requires a graphics driver and the have a
tuner chip but they have no MPEG2 encoder chip on board for the onboard NTSC
tuner chip or for video capture so ATI has to provide a software encoder
within the driver for it to work with the Media Center application.
ATI did this for MCE 2004 and long after the MCE 2005 release they also did
this for MCE 2005/

 

[Hertz_Donut]

thousands of people bought all in wonder cards and expected them to work
in
vista.
Ati tech support says this is microsofts fault. We want our expensive
harware to work asap!

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Ummm...it *IS* Microsoft's fault!

Honu!

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Just so that you guys do not feel left out, nVidia are having problems too,
and seem unable to get it all together.. those who bought '5' series cards
are being left out almost completely other than for basic support, and '6'
series cards have only just scraped in..

My motherboard has a 256mb integrated nvidia 6100 graphics device which did
not handle games too well.. it would crash out if much detail was applied..
I bought an nVidia 6600 256mb card which was much better, but now see that
it is a discontinued model.. it wrenched a little, I have to tell you, but I
honestly can't blame MS for any of it..

The graphics card guys have really let us all down..

Mike are least it looks like you now understand the problem.
The AIW cards actually act like two cards buitlt as one.
The have a graphics chip which requires a graphics driver and the have a
tuner chip but they have no MPEG2 encoder chip on board for the onboard
NTSC tuner chip or for video capture so ATI has to provide a software
encoder within the driver for it to work with the Media Center
application.
ATI did this for MCE 2004 and long after the MCE 2005 release they also
did this for MCE 2005/

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MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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[JW]

It is possible that the added graphic chip instructions to support some of
the new Vista graphic cards were first put into the 6 series chips. So
since for the near future in appears that will concetrate on getting all the
functionality of the older releases such as custom resolutions and
performace enhacements supported on the 6,7,and 8 seris cards in Vista.
When they complete complete they can then add the 5xxx series code into
their lastest drivers so that they only have one set of vista drivers and
can drop use of the 96.85 as the current vista driver for 5xxx chips.