athlon XP retired?

[Jorge Chavez]

Hi, I heard that Athlon xp was replaced by Sempron, and Athlon Xp was
retired from the market, is that true? and if so, is'nt that stupid? is not
Athlon Xp superior in everything than Sempron?

 

[Derek Baker]

Hi, I heard that Athlon xp was replaced by Sempron, and Athlon Xp was
retired from the market, is that true? and if so, is'nt that stupid? is
not Athlon Xp superior in everything than Sempron?

I guess they wanted a greater difference between the Athlon 64 and its
junior partner, hence the Sempron.

 

[Ed]

Hi, I heard that Athlon xp was replaced by Sempron, and Athlon Xp was
retired from the market, is that true? and if so, is'nt that stupid? is not
Athlon Xp superior in everything than Sempron?

If demand is there AMD will still make some XPs after 2005 but probably
only for OEMs. AMD made K6's for over a year after that chip was
discontinued, but those were mainly for embedded and notebook.

There are two flavors of Sempron, a K7 and a K8 version. The K7 version
performs just like an Athlon XP since it's basically a Thoroughbred core
with its 256KB L2 cache.

The Sempron 3100+ is K8 based with on-die memory controller, it
outperforms a Celeron D 335 by 53% in Doom 3, and also beat a XP 3200+
by a few percent.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2149&p=7

Ed

 

[Randy]

I've got a Sempron 3000+ with 333MHz fsb, Barton core and 512k; do you know
how it compares to, say, the Athlon XP of the same specs? I haven't been
able to play with it yet.

 

[Andrew]

Should be equivalent to something around an Athlon XP 2700 (Barton) if
such a thing ever existed. Check out
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/AthlonXP/ for a comparison chart.


Andrew

 

[Wes Newell]

I've got a Sempron 3000+ with 333MHz fsb, Barton core and 512k; do you know
how it compares to, say, the Athlon XP of the same specs? I haven't been
able to play with it yet.

It would be exactly the same as a Barton core Athlon XP 2700+. 12x166.

 

[Timbertea]

I've got a Sempron 3000+ with 333MHz fsb, Barton core and 512k; do you know
how it compares to, say, the Athlon XP of the same specs? I haven't been
able to play with it yet.

A little less than a 2600+.

 

[f/fgeorge]

Should be equivalent to something around an Athlon XP 2700 (Barton) if
such a thing ever existed. Check out
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/AthlonXP/ for a comparison chart.


Andrew

How can they call it a Sempron, which is the Duron replacement, and
then give it a 512k L2 cache? That makes no sense!!! A Sempron is
"supposed" to have a 256k L2 cache NOT a 512k one!!!

 

[Wes Newell]

How can they call it a Sempron, which is the Duron replacement, and
then give it a 512k L2 cache? That makes no sense!!! A Sempron is
"supposed" to have a 256k L2 cache NOT a 512k one!!!

They can do it because they want to.

Basically I think they and Intel just make name changes to confuse the
consumer and to make more money of course. If they really wanted you to
know what you were buying they'd include the core name with it. It's all
about marketing. They want to sell you the least performance possible for
the most amount of money. That's the way ever company is. So AMD created
the Sempron name and lowered the performace of the Athlon XP and gave it a
larger model number based on benchmarks to compete with the Celeron. And
of course the price of the "new' Sempron was higher than that of the XP
line line based on performance. Good move on thier part, for them. Not so
good for the average consumer that doesn't know what they are buying to
begin with.

 

[Dave]

A little less than a 2600+.

No. Wrong!

XP2600 - 266MHz (133MHz) FSB = 16.0 x 133 for 2133MHz, 256 L2

XP2600 - 333MHz (166MHz) FSB = 12.5 x 166 for 2083MHz, 256 L2

XP2600 - 333MHz (166MHz) FSB = 11.5 x 166 for 1917MHz, 512MB L2

Sempron 3000 - 333MHz (166MHz) FSB = 12 x 166 for 2000MHz, 512MB L2

XP2800 - 333MHz(166MHz) FSB = 12.5 x 166 for 2083MHz, 512MB L2

Dave

 

[The Graduate]

OMG! I've actually seen that chart before! Kudos!
;~)

Except for the price difference ($20-30), they have the same basic specs, so
I thought maybe the Sempron was merely a re-badged AthlonXP... or at least
equivalent in speed/power. But then that wouldn't explain the price
disparity unless the Athlons were merely discontinued stock...

OK, there ya go, I'd forgotten the actual clock speeds. Thanks for the
chart.