Athlon 64 3700 cool 'n' Quiet Question

[Homer]

I have a 3000 a64 at the mo, which runs along at
800mhz for the most part with cool 'n' quiet active.
I was thinking of getting a 3700 before i make the
jump to dual core next year. Does the 3700 run at
800Mhz as well with cool 'n' quiet active????
The reason i ask, is i have only just swapped over
to water cooling, and ive rigged it at the moment so
below so more fans run above 30'c. with the chip
running at 800Mhz it runs along at a nice 27'c.
Hence it's running cool and more quiet.

regards
Homer

 

[Gary C]

I have a 3000 a64 at the mo, I was thinking of getting a 3700

I'm just curious Homer, what gain do you think you would get with that
upgrade?

 

[Homer]

Um, more FPS when i'm playing games
faster video encoding
Why does anyone get a faster processor.

regards
homer

 

[Wes Newell]

I have a 3000 a64 at the mo, which runs along at
800mhz for the most part with cool 'n' quiet active.
I was thinking of getting a 3700 before i make the
jump to dual core next year. Does the 3700 run at
800Mhz as well with cool 'n' quiet active????

No, the speed steping will be different. Not sure what it would run at,
maybe 1000-1200MHz, but probably with the same low vcore.

The reason i ask, is i have only just swapped over to water cooling, and
ive rigged it at the moment so below so more fans run above 30'c. with
the chip running at 800Mhz it runs along at a nice 27'c. Hence it's
running cool and more quiet.

The low end temp difference probably won't be much. See what temp your
current cpu runs at in medium speed (1800MHz, 1.4v here) and then subtract
maybe half the difference. Should be close to what to expect.

 

[Nikonja]

Um, more FPS when i'm playing games
faster video encoding
Why does anyone get a faster processor.

regards
homer

Yep 5 frames more in games, 10 second faster encoding.... diference is so
minimal, you could gain more just by overclocking your current proc and you
would save money so you could by dual core sooner than you think !

 

[Yadayada]

No, the speed steping will be different. Not sure what it would run at,
maybe 1000-1200MHz, but probably with the same low vcore.

Assuming it works the same as PowerNow! for the mobile processors, which it
seems to, then 800MHz will be correct. 800 should be the bottom step for all
the processors with throttling enabled.

 

[Gary C]

Um, more FPS when i'm playing games
faster video encoding
Why does anyone get a faster processor.

regards
homer

Well, the 3000/64 runs at 1800 MHz, and the 3700/64 runs at 2200 MHz,
which represents a 22% increase.

Do you feel your FPS will increase 22%?
(30 FPS plus 22% is 36.6 FPS ... BIG DEAL)
Do you feel your video encoding speed would increase by 22%?
I'm just asking.

Maybe a faster video card would better serve you?
Yeah, no, maybe?

Unless we are talking about an annual interest rate,
22 percent isn't THAT much.

A 3000/64 can be had for $146 USD
A 3700/64 is $279 USD, a lot more than 22% more, it's 92 % more!

FWIW, my 3000/64 Winchester can O/C to 2200 MHz. and it
doesn't cost me an additional $133 to do that.

So I ask not "Why does anyone get a faster processor"
But rather, why does one want to spend money foolishly?

 

[Ed]

Assuming it works the same as PowerNow! for the mobile processors, which it
seems to, then 800MHz will be correct. 800 should be the bottom step for all
the processors with throttling enabled.

I thought only the Clawhammers ran at 800MHz (200x4) and the newer cores
run at 1GHz (200x5) when CnQ is kicked in?

I built a 3000+ and 3400+ Clawhammers and they run @ 800MHz, but a
Newcastle 3200+ runs at 1GHz (5x200), btw, it doesn't have a 4x
multiplier setting in the bios either.

Ed

 

[Yadayada]

I thought only the Clawhammers ran at 800MHz (200x4) and the newer cores
run at 1GHz (200x5) when CnQ is kicked in?

I built a 3000+ and 3400+ Clawhammers and they run @ 800MHz, but a
Newcastle 3200+ runs at 1GHz (5x200), btw, it doesn't have a 4x
multiplier setting in the bios either.

Thanks for the update. I hadn't payed any attention to the newcastles and
above.