Asus P4C800-E Deluxe MoBo

[Terry M.]

Hello All:

Just installed a Asus P4C800-E Deluxe MoBo with a P4 3.0 gig
processor. I purchased Kingston memory - two 256 sticks.
I have a GForce 5200 256 Ultra vid card attached. One DVD, one cd
burner. One 3.5 floppy and one, Western Digital 87 gig HD.

Upon initial power up, all fans started etc but the HD would not spool
up. If I remove the communication cable the HD will power up. When I
shut off the power, hook the cable back up the HD won't spool up -
acts like their is no power going to it....

Any suggestions?

BTW, the HD came from my old Gateway that was controlled by a PCI
Promise Ultra 100 card.

Thanks in advance.

Terry

 

[Don Carlson - 371653]

Are you using the correct cable sounds like you might be using the 80pin
cable and maybe you should be using the standard cable with that drive. I
say this because of what it was running with on the old system.

 

[Terry M.]

Are you using the correct cable sounds like you might be using the 80pin
cable and maybe you should be using the standard cable with that drive. I
say this because of what it was running with on the old system.

Hi Don:

I tried using the old cable - same thing.

 

[Rob]

Are you using the correct cable sounds like you might be using the 80pin
cable and maybe you should be using the standard cable with that drive. I
say this because of what it was running with on the old system.

Don,
Does the BIOS see the drive properly when you boot up?
If so try the drive setup with the jumper in cable select(CS) and on an
80 conductor cable by itself. If it still won't work unhook the cable
from the secondary IDE channel and transfer it there. Another option
would be to hook up the burner in it's place, set BIOS to boot from CD
and see if you can boot to your Windows CD. That will verify the cable
and controller are operating and the WD is having problems.

Rob

 

[Terry M.]

Don,
Does the BIOS see the drive properly when you boot up?
If so try the drive setup with the jumper in cable select(CS) and on an
80 conductor cable by itself. If it still won't work unhook the cable
from the secondary IDE channel and transfer it there. Another option
would be to hook up the burner in it's place, set BIOS to boot from CD
and see if you can boot to your Windows CD. That will verify the cable
and controller are operating and the WD is having problems.

Rob

Hi Rob:

Will not even boot to BIOS. Just starts fans and begins to sound like
it's going to fire but nothing.

 

[Rob]

Hi Rob:

Will not even boot to BIOS. Just starts fans and begins to sound like
it's going to fire but nothing.

And if you unhook the HD and try to boot with a Windows disk in the CD
Burner?

 

[Terry M.]

And if you unhook the HD and try to boot with a Windows disk in the CD
Burner?

Won't look at the CDs either. With the comm cables hooked up it seems
like it doesn't provide power to them...

 

[Rob]

Terry M. wrote:

Won't look at the CDs either. With the comm cables hooked up it seems
like it doesn't provide power to them...

I assume you can get into the BIOS Setup so go over the settings for the
IDE channels and drive info, also see if the floppy can be accessed on
boot. Maybe an extra standoff underneath the board is grounding out
some lines.

 

[NEM]

Hi Terry M.,

Won't look at the CDs either. With the comm cables hooked up it seems
like it doesn't provide power to them...

Please bare with me if you already know this:

If you are using a ribbon cable other then the one provided, or perhaps
the one provided is missing the key along the top edge, then make sure
that you have pin one going to pin one on both the controller connector
and hard drive connector. Marked along one edge of the ribbon cable is a
colored wire, either white or red usually.

As to connecting the drive, one 80-pin hard drive cable has two
connectors close to each other at one end and a single connector at the
far end. The far end goes into the promise connector on the motherboard.

With the remaining two, the end connector is the Master and the closer
(middle) connector is the Slave. It is usually easier to jumper the
drive as Cable Select (CS). Since you only have one drive, then the
connection should be made to the end connector making the drive Master.

The CD and DVD drives should be also set to CS, and they normally reside
on the secondary controller. Usually the DVD-ROM drive is placed at the
end of the ribbon cable and the burner is placed in the (closer) middle
connector. At the farthest end the cable plugs into the promise
secondary connector. Again make sure pin one is going to pin one.

Don't forget the power connectors. <G>

It should not matter what the hard drive was original used for or how it
was originally controlled. However, what does matter is that it has an
active primary partition with nothing on it before using it in your new
computer. Unless of course you are planning to first boot with the OS
disc and repartition it there. The old Gateway setup will likely not
work with the new the new computer.

 

[Steve]

Sounds like either a bad Mobo or power supply. Try popping out the battey
on the mobo, shorting the terminals, then replacing the battery and
restarting. See if you can get into the bios after that.

-Steve

 

[Terry M.]

Terry M. wrote:


I assume you can get into the BIOS Setup so go over the settings for the
IDE channels and drive info, also see if the floppy can be accessed on
boot. Maybe an extra standoff underneath the board is grounding out
some lines.

Nope - can't get into BIOS. No Video, no BIOS nothing.......

???????????????

 

[OldBoy]

Hello All:

Just installed a Asus P4C800-E Deluxe MoBo with a P4 3.0 gig
processor. I purchased Kingston memory - two 256 sticks.
I have a GForce 5200 256 Ultra vid card attached. One DVD, one cd
burner. One 3.5 floppy and one, Western Digital 87 gig HD.

Upon initial power up, all fans started etc but the HD would not spool
up. If I remove the communication cable the HD will power up. When I
shut off the power, hook the cable back up the HD won't spool up -
acts like their is no power going to it....

Any suggestions?

BTW, the HD came from my old Gateway that was controlled by a PCI
Promise Ultra 100 card.

Hook up speaker/headphone to audio/out and listen to an error message.
The board doesn't beep but speaks!

Gr. Jan

 

[Rob]

Nope - can't get into BIOS. No Video, no BIOS nothing.......

???????????????

I feared we weren't chasing a drive issue, but this was not good news.
Might be the Mobo or power supply. Try the other suggestions here to
see what they show. Someone will help get this sorted out.

Rob

 

[Paul]

Nope - can't get into BIOS. No Video, no BIOS nothing.......

???????????????

And you've connected the 2x2 +12V power connector ? The CPU won't
get any power without that 2x2 power connector.

HTH,
Paul

 

[Z Man]

Configuration: Two 250GB 8M cache Maxtor ATA133 (UDMA6) hard drives Promise
RAID 2+0 Stripe/RAID0:
(Configured as one 502GB drive, completely empty)

Random Access Time: 15.8ms

Read Burst Speed-98.4MB/s (maximum 97.2MB/s 32.7MB/s, average 62MB/s)

CPU Utilization: 7.7%


For Comparison purposes, on the same system

Maxtor Atlas 15k 73GB U/160 (one of the world's fastest drives, per
storagereview.com):

Random Access Time: 5.7ms

Read Burst Speed-90.3MB/s (maximum 69.2MB/s 41.3MB/s, average 57.5MB/s)

CPU Utilization: 5.9%

Lastly, Western Digital 200GB, 8M cache, UDMA5:

Random Access Time: 14.4ms

Read Burst Speed-28.2MB/s (maximum 26.9MB/s 13.9MB/s, average 26MB/s)

CPU Utilization: 5.0%


HD Tach version 2.70

System Configuration:
ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe motherboard
4G PC2100 DDR ram
P4/1600GHz CPU
LSI Logic 53C1010-33 SCSI Ultra 160 Host Controller
Total hard drive space, about 1TB

 

[Terry M.]

And you've connected the 2x2 +12V power connector ? The CPU won't
get any power without that 2x2 power connector.

HTH,
Paul

Hi Paul:

I connected the main power socket to the mb - something like a twelve
pin? What 2x2 are you refering to?

 

[Terry M.]

Paul is right - from the power supply connect the ATX 12V power supply to
the connection 3 on your motherboard as shown on page 1-6/7 of the user
guide.
Good luck - Bob

Paul and all:

Bingo! That's it - I have an ATX power supply but it doesn't have the
2x2 plug. Boy, I don't know how I missed reading that - I thought I
covered that book cover to cover.

Oh well, off to buy a new power supply. I'll let everyone know the
outcome.

Thanks a bunch to all!

 

[Terry M.]

Well, purchased the new power supply and now everything is working
*except* that although is sees the hard drive it won't boot from it.

I either get the message no device installed - bios not installed when
I select IDE or fast track does not see the device bios not installed
when I select raid.

We're getting closer!

 

[NEM]

Hi Terry M.,

Well, purchased the new power supply and now everything is working
*except* that although is sees the hard drive it won't boot from it.

I either get the message no device installed - bios not installed when
I select IDE

The message about no device BIOS not install is for SATA. If you have
connected the drive, as I mentioned in...

<[email protected]>

....then go into BIOS...

Advance/Onboard Devices Configuration/Onboard Promise Controller/Disabled

....and that will turn off SATA and the message. It doesn't effect PATA.

or fast track does not see the device bios not installed when I select
raid.

Are you running RAID? I do not believe you mentioned that before. I was
under the impression that it was previously an old Gateway drive on a
Promise controller. That doesn't automatically mean RAID. If you want RAID,
then you will have to set that up.

We're getting closer!

Yep, having power to the board is important. <g>

 

[Bob S]

Hi Paul:

I connected the main power socket to the mb - something like a twelve
pin? What 2x2 are you refering to?

Paul is right - from the power supply connect the ATX 12V power supply to
the connection 3 on your motherboard as shown on page 1-6/7 of the user
guide.
Good luck - Bob