Asus M2V-MX SE


D

Desmond

Hi I am having problems with using this mother board with Windows 7
32 / 64. I have found in the past that motherboard manufacturers are
not end user frendly. Any downloads for this?

The CD states Vista inside. I thought that Windows 7 was just Vista
minus the deliberate bugs?

TIA

Desmond.
 
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Paul

Desmond said:
Hi I am having problems with using this mother board with Windows 7
32 / 64. I have found in the past that motherboard manufacturers are
not end user frendly. Any downloads for this?

The CD states Vista inside. I thought that Windows 7 was just Vista
minus the deliberate bugs?

TIA

Desmond.
http://support.asus.com.tw/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=M2V-MX SE

The motherboard is from 2007, so you wouldn't expect to see a heavy Win7 presence.

You can go to the various chip makers and get drivers there.
But why not give Win7 a chance ? It probably has a ton of
drivers built in. Let Win7 solve your driver problem first,
before getting all bent out of shape.

VIA drivers, for things like VT8237S storage features, or "Integrated Rhine"
networking. For my VIA chipset motherboard, I got fresh stuff here. The
Attansic chip could just be a PHY, and the driver you want instead is for the Rhine
MAC in the Southbridge. Look in the networking section here, for Integrated
Rhine and give that driver a try. The "MAC" layer is the brains, and the
thing that gets the driver.

http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp

RealTek HDaudio drivers.

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false

If you've still got exclamation points in your Device Manager
display, come back and give details. Or, using the first link
above, go through the available drivers for WinXP, to understand
what is needed to complete your Win7 install.

Someone else may have tried Win7 on that motherboard, and
this forum may have questions about drivers and the like.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=M2V-MX+SE&SLanguage=en-us

"Most things seem to work"

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20090202041038987&board_id=1&model=M2V-MX+SE&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Paul
 
D

Desmond

http://support.asus.com.tw/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&mod....

The motherboard is from 2007, so you wouldn't expect to see a heavy Win7 presence.

You can go to the various chip makers and get drivers there.
But why not give Win7 a chance ? It probably has a ton of
drivers built in. Let Win7 solve your driver problem first,
before getting all bent out of shape.

VIA drivers, for things like VT8237S storage features, or "Integrated Rhine"
networking. For my VIA chipset motherboard, I got fresh stuff here. The
Attansic chip could just be a PHY, and the driver you want instead is forthe Rhine
MAC in the Southbridge. Look in the networking section here, for Integrated
Rhine and give that driver a try. The "MAC" layer is the brains, and the
thing that gets the driver.

http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp

RealTek HDaudio drivers.

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=....

If you've still got exclamation points in your Device Manager
display, come back and give details. Or, using the first link
above, go through the available drivers for WinXP, to understand
what is needed to complete your Win7 install.

Someone else may have tried Win7 on that motherboard, and
this forum may have questions about drivers and the like.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=M2V-MX+SE&SLang....

"Most things seem to work"

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20090202041038987&board_id=1&m....

    Paul
Asus take me to driver robot to download and run on my PC. Driver
robot has identified 17 drivers that require updating.
THE PUNCH LINE: I have to pay $29.95 to down load them. Cheeky
bastards.
 
D

Desmond

Asus take me to driver robot to download and run on my PC. Driver
robot has identified 17 drivers that require updating.
THE PUNCH LINE: I have to pay $29.95 to down load them. Cheeky
bastards.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Its the integrated vidio that is causing me a problem. If anyone knows
the type that comes with the motherboard I could search for it.

Desmond.
 
J

Jan Alter

Asus take me to driver robot to download and run on my PC. Driver
robot has identified 17 drivers that require updating.
THE PUNCH LINE: I have to pay $29.95 to down load them. Cheeky
bastards.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Its the integrated vidio that is causing me a problem. If anyone knows
the type that comes with the motherboard I could search for it.

Desmond.


It appears that this driver is being used for that mb

VIA DeltaChrome

but I'm not getting any conclusive results for drivers supporting Vista
or Win 7 at the moment.
 
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Paul

Jan said:
Its the integrated vidio that is causing me a problem. If anyone knows
the type that comes with the motherboard I could search for it.

Desmond.


It appears that this driver is being used for that mb

VIA DeltaChrome

but I'm not getting any conclusive results for drivers supporting Vista
or Win 7 at the moment.
Desmond - my advice would be to never use "driver finder" links that advertisers
place on download sites. Be more careful where you click. I normally don't
find advertising on Asus.com web sites. Maybe you were actually using
a driver finder site instead ? Asus doesn't charge for drivers.

*******

So far, I have 17 browser windows open, and I'm not making much progress.

This link presumably has the "system of the week" listed, and right now, this
page is showing info for M2V-MX SE. First of all, their claim is the Northbridge
is K8M890CE, which is about a three year old chip. The VT8237S (I've got one on
my motherboard) may be slightly newer, but we don't care about that right now.
The Northbridge is the thing that needs a video driver.

http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systems

Asus M2V-MX SE

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video (rev 11)

In the VIA marketing web pages, K8M890 and P4M900 "walk hand in hand", like
they were released at the same time.

http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/2006_archive/pr061206IGP_VistaBasic.jsp

And yet, if I go to the VIA download page, I'm offered a driver for P4M900,
and K8M900 is not mentioned. it is like it "fell off the earth".

http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp

Microsoft Windows
Windows 7 32 bit
Integrated Graphics
P4M900 Via Chrome9(TM)

The P900W7i.inf file from that p4m900(ce)-vn896(ce)-cn896(ce)_24-10-04p_bld2_win7_viawsetup_logod.zip
download, has this for an identity.

%S3GDeltaChromeIGP% = S3G700, PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3371

If I go to the MSI web site, and look for drivers for K9VGM-V, they have drivers
for Vista, but no Windows 7. That motherboard uses K8M890CE.

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=260

http://download2.msi.com/files/downloads/dvr_exe/Vista64_K8M890_VGA.zip

The file K890LH64.inf in there has

%S3GDeltaChromeIGP% = S3G700, PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3230

and a DEVice value of hexadecimal 3230 seems to be correct, from the info
I can find.

So on the one hand, VIA has a driver for Windows 7, with the wrong value
in the installer for it to install (they also don't include K8M890CE as
a candidate chip for that driver). If you use the VIA P4M900 driver,
it won't install, because the string in the INF is wrong.

On the other hand, an MSI driver for their K8M890CE board, has what
appears to be the right ID. The driver even unzips into a folder called
K8M890CE. But the thing is, they only offer a Vista driver, and no
Windows7.

If this was a new build, and there was no cost to me to start the install
all over again, I'd download the VIA driver, and change the one line to
match what I feel is the value actually contained in your chip. So the
P900W7i.inf would read

%S3GDeltaChromeIGP% = S3G700, PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3230

You can either verify the VEN and DEV, by using Device Manager some how,
for the item which has the exclamation mark. Or, get a copy of Everest,
because it also lists VEN and DEV. This is the last version that Lavalys
gave away, and even if it doesn't name all hardware correctly, it may
still be able to allow you to verify the VEN and DEV on all hardware
devices sitting on system buses.

http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

So if you want to hack the VIA driver and give it a try,
go right ahead. I doubt I'm going to find a modern enough
K8M890 or K8M890ce based motherboard, to find a Windows 7
driver for it.

I understand it is possible to install Vista drivers on Windows 7,
but I'm not the right guy to ask about that. I don't have Windows 7,
and there are forums, USENET or private, that likely have more
info about across-OS driver hacks. I'd be less willing to try that,
than to hack the INF as proposed above.

There is someone in the same situation here.

http://www.viaarena.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-40141.html

Paul
 
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Jan Alter

Paul said:
Jan said:
Its the integrated vidio that is causing me a problem. If anyone knows
the type that comes with the motherboard I could search for it.

Desmond.


It appears that this driver is being used for that mb

VIA DeltaChrome

but I'm not getting any conclusive results for drivers supporting
Vista or Win 7 at the moment.
Desmond - my advice would be to never use "driver finder" links that
advertisers
place on download sites. Be more careful where you click. I normally don't
find advertising on Asus.com web sites. Maybe you were actually using
a driver finder site instead ? Asus doesn't charge for drivers.

*******

So far, I have 17 browser windows open, and I'm not making much progress.

This link presumably has the "system of the week" listed, and right now,
this
page is showing info for M2V-MX SE. First of all, their claim is the
Northbridge
is K8M890CE, which is about a three year old chip. The VT8237S (I've got
one on
my motherboard) may be slightly newer, but we don't care about that right
now.
The Northbridge is the thing that needs a video driver.

http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systems

Asus M2V-MX SE

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890
[Chrome9] Integrated Video (rev 11)

In the VIA marketing web pages, K8M890 and P4M900 "walk hand in hand",
like
they were released at the same time.

http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/2006_archive/pr061206IGP_VistaBasic.jsp

And yet, if I go to the VIA download page, I'm offered a driver for
P4M900,
and K8M900 is not mentioned. it is like it "fell off the earth".

http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp

Microsoft Windows
Windows 7 32 bit
Integrated Graphics
P4M900 Via Chrome9(TM)

The P900W7i.inf file from that
p4m900(ce)-vn896(ce)-cn896(ce)_24-10-04p_bld2_win7_viawsetup_logod.zip
download, has this for an identity.

%S3GDeltaChromeIGP% = S3G700, PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3371

If I go to the MSI web site, and look for drivers for K9VGM-V, they have
drivers
for Vista, but no Windows 7. That motherboard uses K8M890CE.

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=260

http://download2.msi.com/files/downloads/dvr_exe/Vista64_K8M890_VGA.zip

The file K890LH64.inf in there has

%S3GDeltaChromeIGP% = S3G700, PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3230

and a DEVice value of hexadecimal 3230 seems to be correct, from the info
I can find.

So on the one hand, VIA has a driver for Windows 7, with the wrong value
in the installer for it to install (they also don't include K8M890CE as
a candidate chip for that driver). If you use the VIA P4M900 driver,
it won't install, because the string in the INF is wrong.

On the other hand, an MSI driver for their K8M890CE board, has what
appears to be the right ID. The driver even unzips into a folder called
K8M890CE. But the thing is, they only offer a Vista driver, and no
Windows7.

If this was a new build, and there was no cost to me to start the install
all over again, I'd download the VIA driver, and change the one line to
match what I feel is the value actually contained in your chip. So the
P900W7i.inf would read

%S3GDeltaChromeIGP% = S3G700, PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3230

You can either verify the VEN and DEV, by using Device Manager some how,
for the item which has the exclamation mark. Or, get a copy of Everest,
because it also lists VEN and DEV. This is the last version that Lavalys
gave away, and even if it doesn't name all hardware correctly, it may
still be able to allow you to verify the VEN and DEV on all hardware
devices sitting on system buses.

http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

So if you want to hack the VIA driver and give it a try,
go right ahead. I doubt I'm going to find a modern enough
K8M890 or K8M890ce based motherboard, to find a Windows 7
driver for it.

I understand it is possible to install Vista drivers on Windows 7,
but I'm not the right guy to ask about that. I don't have Windows 7,
and there are forums, USENET or private, that likely have more
info about across-OS driver hacks. I'd be less willing to try that,
than to hack the INF as proposed above.

There is someone in the same situation here.

http://www.viaarena.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-40141.html

Paul
If there is a Vista driver found I would certainly try it. If it doesn't
work then give Asus support a call. An mb just two years old should be
viable to work with Win 7 and Asus to supply a driver IMHO.

By the way, I've found that a clean installation of Win 7 takes about 35
minutes. I did that with a seven year old notebook running a 2.4 Ghz , P4
with one gb of RAM. However, if one does an upgrade to Win 7 it may take
hours. Just a week ago, on another notebook running an Intel T9550 cpu,
with 4 gb of RAM and 45 gb of data it took me 3.5 hrs, and an additional
hour to add Win 7 drivers that were sent on a disk for the computer by the
notebook maker, but were not native to Win 7.



Jan Alter
(e-mail address removed)
 
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Paul

Jan said:
If there is a Vista driver found I would certainly try it. If it doesn't
work then give Asus support a call. An mb just two years old should be
viable to work with Win 7 and Asus to supply a driver IMHO.

By the way, I've found that a clean installation of Win 7 takes about 35
minutes. I did that with a seven year old notebook running a 2.4 Ghz , P4
with one gb of RAM. However, if one does an upgrade to Win 7 it may take
hours. Just a week ago, on another notebook running an Intel T9550 cpu,
with 4 gb of RAM and 45 gb of data it took me 3.5 hrs, and an additional
hour to add Win 7 drivers that were sent on a disk for the computer by the
notebook maker, but were not native to Win 7.



Jan Alter
(e-mail address removed)
Did the install seem to be working hard during all of that ?
I can't imagine what takes so long. And I thought the WinXP
install was slow. Maybe they want you to buy a faster computer :)

Paul
 
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Jan Alter

Paul said:
Did the install seem to be working hard during all of that ?
I can't imagine what takes so long. And I thought the WinXP
install was slow. Maybe they want you to buy a faster computer :)

Paul

The notebook is already considered fast with a T9550 cpu and 4 gb of RAM.
By benchmark standards its 5 times as fast as the Pentium 2.4 ghz.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

I was amazed as well to how slow this upgrade was. I did some googling to
see if other upgraders to Windows 7 were going through the same sluggishness
and found one report of a fellow whose upgrade took him 20 hours. It was
noted that he had 690 gb of data, but I considered even so, one should plan
to start their own Windows 7 upgrade from Vista in the evening, before they
go to sleep so they can come down in the morning and wake up to their new
OS.

Jan Alter
(e-mail address removed)
 

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