Artcle: What Went Wrong with Windows Vista?

[vista na na - na na nia]

What Went Wrong with Windows Vista?

Er????? Practically everything is wrong with vista!!!

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/what_went_wrong_with_windows_vista.html

long interesting article!

 

[DX]

** Usual Snore **

You are so boring that they should abolish sleeping tablets and put you in a
room with people who were taking them,
would solve the problem no doubt.

And as for Joe Wilcox the a$$ wipe who wrote it has his face just been hit
by a bus ?

Go fuc* yourself once and for all you sad pathetic dropout loser.

Oh and merry xmas hope you get 20 copies of vista so you can ram the up your
a$$ all at once.

 

[vista na na - na na nia]

you must be running Vista on your brain...
you cant get any dumber... unless your name is frank

merry christmas to you too

 

[PhilBiker]

Interesting article indeed, thanks for linking to it.

At least one of his "signs" that "Windows Vista did not meet Microsoft
expectations" is ridiculous nonsense.

"Microsoft already is advancing plans for Vista-successor Windows 7"

They were planning Windows XP when they released Windows 98. Was that a
sign that 98 did not meet their expectations? No, it is a sign that they are
not going out of the OS business.

Too many versions - I completely agree. The reason for too many versions is
that Microsoft (or anyone) has to grasp to offer value in an operating
system. Operating systems are boring utilitarian programs, let's face it.
So you have to bundle stuff in that really isn't part of the OS itself, and
can be easily added on. Sure, sometimes there is value in having the stuff
bundled as part of the OS, but sometimes it's ust fluff.

I look down at the version matrix on MSs web site and I see very little of
real value. The best stuff (core OS functionality, powerful search,
security, networking, basic power management, vastly more ergonomic UI) is
all for the mast part included in the barebones "Home Basic" version.

Interesting article. I like Vista a lot, but I would not have upgraded to
it on for its own sake, I just got it on a new computer. For many of the
reasons he states.

-Phil

 

[vista na na - na na nia]

I agree with you

Interesting article indeed, thanks for linking to it.

At least one of his "signs" that "Windows Vista did not meet Microsoft
expectations" is ridiculous nonsense.

"Microsoft already is advancing plans for Vista-successor Windows 7"

They were planning Windows XP when they released Windows 98. Was that a
sign that 98 did not meet their expectations? No, it is a sign that they
are
not going out of the OS business.

Too many versions - I completely agree. The reason for too many versions
is
that Microsoft (or anyone) has to grasp to offer value in an operating
system. Operating systems are boring utilitarian programs, let's face it.
So you have to bundle stuff in that really isn't part of the OS itself,
and
can be easily added on. Sure, sometimes there is value in having the
stuff
bundled as part of the OS, but sometimes it's ust fluff.

I look down at the version matrix on MSs web site and I see very little of
real value. The best stuff (core OS functionality, powerful search,
security, networking, basic power management, vastly more ergonomic UI) is
all for the mast part included in the barebones "Home Basic" version.

Interesting article. I like Vista a lot, but I would not have upgraded to
it on for its own sake, I just got it on a new computer. For many of the
reasons he states.

-Phil

 

[DX]

There you go again a$$ wipe, if you don't like vista don't use it, everyone
is so sick of your crap opinions they pitty you.
So go away grow some balls, and get a reality check the low lighting in that
cellar must be effecting you more than you originally thought, oh ps, I
don't think vista is a 100% perfect myself before you through all that fan
boy $hit at me but it does well for what I need, is stable and easy to use,
but I don't rave on about it all the time.

Look forward to not hearing from you again you pathetic sad piece of $hit
loser.

 

[vista na na - na na nia]

do you actually think I care if the vistaboys read my posts?

I am here to save the poor innocent people who are wondering if they should
get vista-crapista or not.
By providing the information here they are getting the truth, something that
you are your like, dont want to be told.

I am not a loser.... but with your attitude it is clear that you are the
loser.

if you dont like reading my posts then dont...
you will end up avoiding all crtitisism for vista, and living in a
dreamworld where you think vista is acceptible.

 

[DX]

What bothers me loser, is that you are giving BAD advice to people based
ONLY on your own beliefs. It is not their fault
you are too stupid to do a simple installation of vista on solid hardware
and get it to work. If you had you would not experience
problems with the OS.

I don't want to but you change your ID that much it's hard to miss the
pathetic things, but by just reading one sentence can tell
what idiot wrote it.

I don't live in a dreamworld I live in the adult world, i.e. where stupid
children like you don't play. STOP GIVING PEOPLE
INCORRECT ADVICE BASED ON YOUR ON PATHETIC BELIEFS!

 

[vista na na - na na nia]

you are totaly false.

I am experienced and my advice is sound
I just dont provide proof and that pisses you off....

but I dont care... too bad

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"I am here to save the poor innocent people..."
Obviously FALSE.
If that were true, you would spend more time on facts and less on your
ever-present attacks on others.

You seem to need to attack those who are successful with Windows
Vista.
Your inability to comprehend the FACT Windows Vista works well for
some leads you to believe there is fault in their success.
However the fault is in your blind bias possibly because of your own
ineptness with Window Vista.

"...reading my posts then dont..."
And yet you regularly change your handle to escape probably because
you feel what you have to say is important.
So important you believe other have no right to block what you have to
say.

"...you will end up avoiding all crtitisism..."
Your over inflated ego at work.
You need to look, then you will see others criticize Windows Vista.
Contrary to your belief, you are not the only one.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"Too many versions - I completely agree."
Windows Vista has four versions, as did Windows XP.
That discounts the versions of limited distribution and those mandated
by law such as Starter, N etc.
I think four is about right, although I also think there should have
been a few differences in the way features were aligned.

Different versions give choice depending on needs and resources
available.
Choice is good for the consumer particularly those with limited
resources.

 

[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

There are Four editions of Vista available to consumers with distinct
features that define each SKU. Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and
Ultimate

Home Basic is designed to be easy to setup, to help people use their PCs
securely and reliably, to help people stay better connected, and like all of
the editions of Windows Vista, to be compatible with the widest range of
software, devices, and services people use and trust. For people who simply
want to use their PC for tasks such as surfing the internet, corresponding
with friends and family using e-mail or performing basic document creation
and editing tasks, Home Basic delivers a safer, more reliable, and more
effective computing environment.

Home Premium makes finding information, stating connected and interacting
with your PC easier and more secure. Using, organizing and sharing photos,
video, TV and music becomes a part of your everyday life. With Windows Vista
Home Premium, balancing your check book, doing homework, watching a movie,
listening to music or playing a game is a better and more enjoyable
experience.

For small businesses, Vista Business will help keep PCs running smoothly and
securely, with less reliance on dedicated IT support. For larger
organizations, Vista Business provides dramatic new infrastructure
improvements, enabling IT staff to spend more time adding strategic value to
the business. Vista Business also offers powerful new ways to organize, find
and share information, while helping people stay better connected in the
office and on the road.

So we can clearly see the the distinctions that make multiple SKUs worth
having. Not everyone wants Tablet PC, MCE, some want a Basic operating
system with the latest security and tools designed for their lifestyle. Why
would a home user with a computer at home really want Domain Join
functionality, why would that same user running Home Basic need Tablet PC
computing or MCE when they know they don't need it. Thats why there is
choice and Microsoft offers this through the various SKUs, its adding value
and giving consumers and businesses what they want.

Ultimate is the flagship edition of Windows Vista across consumer and small
business desktop PCs and mobile PCs. The primary user of Windows Vista
Ultimate is the individual, such a small business owner, who uses a single
PC at both home and work. This edition includes all the features available
in Windows Vista Home Premium and Windows Vista Enterprise.

Ultimate is the first operating system that combines the advanced
infrastructure of a business-focused operating system, the productivity of a
mobility-focused operating system, and the digital entertainment features of
a consumer-focused operating system. For the person who wants their PC to be
great for working at home, on the go and at the Office, Windows Vista
Ultimate is the no-compromise operating system that provides it all.

If you do want the best of both worlds and everything across the Vista line
up, you have the Ultimate edition, again, this is called choice, you are
getting what you want, no ones stopping you.

Microsoft is always developing new versions of Windows, its no surprise if
you hear that Windows 7 is in development. Microsoft announced Vista
codenamed (Longhorn) at the time a couple months before XP was released in
2001. When Windows 98 was released, the Company was working on Windows 2000
(codenamed NT 5.0), Microsoft announced that Windows ME would have been
released in 2000, the same year 2000 was launched with a follow up, Whistler
which was released as XP eventually.

So the Company always has a clear road map where it is heading. Its nothing
new or sign of failure anywhere, Windows Vista is on 90 million desktops
just after one year and the holidays have not even started yet. Also, if you
believe Windows is bloated, you need to check out the latest Linux
distributions, is Microsoft bundling and Office suite in Windows Vista?

 

[DX]

I just dont provide proof and that pisses you off....

It's because your full of bull $hit, you don't cause you can't, your sad &
lonely and need something to do to make your miserable life worth something.

but I dont care... too bad

I really don't give a $hit myself also, I just hate how you are misinforming
genuine pople.

 

[Frank]

you are totaly false.

he is totally correct!

I am experienced and my advice is sound

you are a newbie...an inexperienced big mouth ignorant loser.

I just dont provide proof and that pisses you off....

you have no proof that you know anything...only that you are an
insecure, childish as*hole loser who enjoys the attention he gets from
making a fool out of himself.
Any minkie knows more about computers than you'd ever know in a million
lifetimes.
Proof that you are too stupid to figure out how to use Vista...which
btw, is the very best operating system in the world...much better than XP.
Frank

oh, how is that cardboard space ship coming along? When is liftoff
scheduled...LOL.

 

[ceed]

vista na na - na na nia wrote:

|What Went Wrong with Windows Vista?
|
|Er????? Practically everything is wrong with vista!!!
|
|http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/what_went_wrong_with_windows_vista.html
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|long interesting article!

The thing is that I do not have any problems with Vista. Guess I'm
lucky. I have a feeling Vista is another ME. I was hoping for a new
file system and other fundamental changes in Vista, but there are very
few of those. Most of the creativity has gone into creating a new look,
and I think the way Vista look is quite nice. With the right hardware
it evens performs relatively well.

Memory management seems to be the only fundamental improvement in
Vista. Programs lives and dies more similar to in Linux which is a good
thing in my book. More on this here:

http://www.hardcoreware.net/windows-vistas-memory-management-is-a-little-different-from-xp/

And please do not start the "fan boy" thing again. I am not one of
those. I run windows Vista and Linux (PcLinuxOS) side by side on my
laptop. I'm relatively happy with both. I have had two BSOD's with
Vista, but they both turned out to be driver related (Real Rhapsody
drivers), so I can not complain about stability either.

So the way I see it there's not anything fundamentally wrong with
Vista. It's just that MS again has implemented some new features that
wasn't really ready for prime time. Nothing new in that, is it? By
stating that "everything is wrong with Vista" doesn't help anyone much.
It would be more helpful to focus on how to make Vista more usable
because there are ways to make it run better. And when tweaked it isn't
as bad as people seem to think at all.

 

[bp]

do you actually think I care if the vistaboys read my posts?

Since you post them in a vista groups I'd say YES

I am here to save the poor innocent people who are wondering if they should
get vista-crapista or not.

PFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTT Good work anyone that would follow your advice deserves
Linux and is undoubtedly dumber than you are.

By providing the information here they are getting the truth, something that
you are your like, dont want to be told.

ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The Truth according to vista na na - na na nia yeah just the person I want
telling me the truth. A person that even lies about their name.
Keep up the good work. LOL

I am not a loser.... but with your attitude it is clear that you are the
loser.
\

Whatever you say vista na na - na na nia

if you don't like reading my posts then dont...

If you don't want Vista people reading you post don't post them here.
Duh.

you will end up avoiding all crtitisism for vista, and living in a
dreamworld where you think vista is acceptible.

Ok Mr. vista na na - na na nia you go change the world. Good luck

 

[bp]

:

Dude you really need to format you text.

This is a common misconception about Vista, that all Microsoft has done
is put a new face onto it. It's easy to understand why people fel this
way, as the GUI is the one thing of ANY Operating System that we as user
interact with most often. We don't get to se any of the real changes
that make it different from a previous version.

When you reference Vista being like another ME, I'm guessing that
you're amoung those who feel ME was rubbish? I can't be counted in that
camp, because ME (from my point of view), was, is and always will be
what Windows 98 was supposed to have been. A cool, clean and stable
working environment.

But nobody is using ME anymore, right? So there's no real point in
discussing the matter...



Vista Memory Management has really upped the ante in the number of
applications that can run consecutively on the OS without problems. But
that is hardly the only improvement that has been made.

Thread Management, which results in faster execution times for
applications is another.

The User-Mode driver model has greatly minimized the risk of a bad
driver bringing the entire system down.

And I'll probably get myself cruxified for saying this, but UAC really
is right up there with the rest of my favourite additions to the OS. UAC
almost removes the requirement of an AV program. Almost.



Vista stability really is something great.



Many feel the same way about these features of Vista that "where not
ready for prime time". They had to be introduced sometime, right?
Including them in Windows Vista was as good a time as any.


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[xfile]

A person that even lies about their name.

That's an argument and misconception that have been brought up every now and
then, so I decided to comment on it.

Let me ask you a simple question - Do you give out your business card or ID
card to people on the street?

Some people and business do it for advertising purpose, but are those
expected to be a "normal" behavior for everyone else?

We are on the net, remember? It's for self-protection and it is advised by
many security experts to NOT using the real identity.

Furthermore, using this newsgroup as an example, I don't see any definite
correlation between honesty, sincerity, and helps between people using real
names (or appears to be a real one) and alias.

I hope people can stop giving this ill advise and this type of argument is
nonsense.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

That's an argument and misconception that have been brought up every now
and then, so I decided to comment on it.

Let me ask you a simple question - Do you give out your business card or
ID card to people on the street?

Some people and business do it for advertising purpose, but are those
expected to be a "normal" behavior for everyone else?

We are on the net, remember? It's for self-protection and it is advised
by many security experts to NOT using the real identity.

Furthermore, using this newsgroup as an example, I don't see any definite
correlation between honesty, sincerity, and helps between people using
real names (or appears to be a real one) and alias.

I hope people can stop giving this ill advise and this type of argument is
nonsense.

Whether it's ill advice or nonsense depends on what and where your posting.
It can also be a matter of where you are posting from. Many countries in
this world do not allow free speech whether it is online or not.

The problem with posting anonymously is that many people equate this with a
way of avoiding the responsibility for the content of their posts. The right
to post anonymously is a right that can be (and IS) abused.

Most people see posting anonymously as simply a way of protecting themselves
from spam. But this can easily be avoided (to a large extent) by simply not
using a legitimate email address in the properties of your online profile.
Most people don't realize that when they post here, their IP Address is
being logged which makes an anonymous name a mute point unless they are
using an anonymizer or some other kind of layered masking.

The people who abuse this right use their 'perceived' anonymity as a way to
avoid the responsibility for posting accurate information. This leads to
angry outbursts, vicious personal attacks, political, gender and cultural
racism, etc.

You can even see this behavior spreading to online blogs. A blog is supposed
to reflect the authors expertise and knowledge on a given subject. Any
information posted on a blog should be the result of extensive research on
the subject matter. Yet you see many bloggers who post anonymously. Would
you trust an anonymous blogger?

What makes this even worse is that you also have people who beleive that if
it is written on a website, it must be the truth. You see people who post
references to articles on these newsgroups and the only reason the poster
referenced that article is because it agrees with his point of view with
absolutely no regard as to the accuracy of the article.

Anonymous name or not, when someone is posting to a newsgroup, or anywhere
else, they should imagine that they are in a large room where many people
are having conversations. When they join in on a conversation they are in
person, face to face with the people they are speaking to.

 

[xfile]

Most people don't realize that when they post here, their IP Address is

being logged which makes an anonymous name a mute point unless they are
using an anonymizer or some other kind of layered masking.

I agree with what you said but the above is exactly the reason for why using
a real identity is a potential problem.

Most people don't know how to hide their IP or use a faked one, and if they
use a real identity plus a few information they carelessly disclosed and
with the help from public records, they can be targeted for all kinds of
online and "offline" crimes. Spam will be considered as nothing compared
with someone is being kidnapped.

But I should have made it clear, it is only for newsgroups and chatrooms and
as for blogs and web site articles, etc, it would be different and would be
like what you said.