Are Seagates drive no good any more ?

[Rod Speed]

Woger wrote

Yes but the CPU is around 90w Plus all the Drives and 5 Fans

Those dont take anything like 12-15A

 

[Woger]

Woger wrote




Its just getting confused by the unusual way the Seagate SMART reports are done.




Hard Drive Inspector is a steaming turd.


Thats also a steaming turd given the SMART report.

They are both confused by the Seagate SMART data which
lists perfectly normal data differently to other manufacturers.


Its been discussed here extensively in the past.







The latest Everest does.

Well no info on there web site at ALL regarding SMART reporting of USB Hard
Drives, Plus I used the latest Free version.


One Big thing you seem to forget I was getting XP Lock up and seek noises from
the Drive Plus boot up problem same seek noises, and you claim this is not a
Bad drive..??

 

[Rod Speed]

Well no info on there web site at ALL regarding SMART reporting of USB Hard Drives,

Sure but some who use it have said that it does.

Plus I used the latest Free version.

It was definitely one of the non free versions.

One Big thing you seem to forget I was getting XP Lock
up and seek noises from the Drive Plus boot up problem
same seek noises, and you claim this is not a Bad drive..??

The SMART data shows that the drive is fine.

Those symptoms can be produced by other than the drive.

 

[Woger]

Sure but some who use it have said that it does.


It was definitely one of the non free versions.


The SMART data shows that the drive is fine.

Those symptoms can be produced by other than the drive.

No only since this drive was installed, before it was running on the WD
drive, Plus the noise comes from the 500g Seagate..

I think this proves it some 100%..


Its been Proven many many times that SMART reporting is totally useless, I
have proven this myself..

 

[Rod Speed]

Woger wrote

No only since this drive was installed, before it was running on
the WD drive, Plus the noise comes from the 500g Seagate..

Try that again in english.

I think this proves it some 100%..
Wrong.

Its been Proven many many times that SMART reporting is totally useless,

Like hell it has whether the drive has a problem or not.

I have proven this myself..

Like hell you have.

And since you have now seen a problem with two seagates drives,
its MUCH more likely that there is a problem with the PC, not the drive.

A bad power supply could produce the symptoms you are seeing.

 

[Woger]

Woger wrote


Try that again in english.


Like hell it has whether the drive has a problem or not.


Like hell you have.

And since you have now seen a problem with two seagates drives,
its MUCH more likely that there is a problem with the PC, not the drive.

A bad power supply could produce the symptoms you are seeing.

I am a computer Eng and have tested the Voltages with a Fluke DVM, all very
good no low ones, but have not scoped the lines yet to see if there is noise
on them due to caps drying out in the PSU..

 

[Rod Speed]

Woger wrote

I am a computer Eng and have tested the Voltages with a Fluke DVM,

Doesnt prove a damned thing when the drive isnt behaving like that now.

 

[Woger]

Woger wrote


Try that again in english.


Like hell it has whether the drive has a problem or not.


Like hell you have.

And since you have now seen a problem with two seagates drives,
its MUCH more likely that there is a problem with the PC, not the drive.

A bad power supply could produce the symptoms you are seeing.

What I have done is to Unplug the 120g Seagate to see if its that one causing
the problems, it has not Active programs on it as the were all moved to the
500g SATA drive, the 120g drive is some 6 years old and has some 900 days of
use , but does show up as Good, but not if I test it with the SpeedFan online
test, it lists Raw read as Bad and power on's and days of use at the end of
its life..

All other Test programs rate this drive as better that the New 5day use
Seagate..

 

[Rod Speed]

Woger wrote

What I have done is to Unplug the 120g Seagate to see if its that one
causing the problems, it has not Active programs on it as the were
all moved to the 500g SATA drive, the 120g drive is some 6 years old
and has some 900 days of use , but does show up as Good,

Yeah, the SMART report on that drive was fine.

but not if I test it with the SpeedFan online test, it lists Raw read as Bad

Thats just a quirk of the way Seagates report that value. Its fine anyway.

and power on's and days of use at the end of its life..

I've never bought that line. Basically if its got to that age and shows
no reallocated sectors etc, it will likely be fine for years more.

Corse it may be too small to bother with now.

All other Test programs rate this drive as better that the New 5day use Seagate..

They appear to be getting confused by how Seagate reports the first SMART param,
the raw read error rate and the seek error rate. Seagate just reports those differently
to other manufacturers and you can see that by doing a search using google on any
Seagate drive SMART data, they all have very high values in that first SMART field.
Doesnt say anything useful about the drive, the drives are fine anyway.

 

[Arno]

Hi,

My USB Pen Driver is not detecting anymore. I have try to connect
different computer but no result.
Now problem is that I want to get my data back form my USB Pen drive.
How can I get back it?
Any advice would be appreciated

Thanks.

1. Wrong thread
2. Huh? Which size/model/filesystem/OS/error message?

If it is broken, only professional data recovery will help.

Arno