Are motherboard upgrades "plug & play" with XP?

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DD

I plan to upgrade my motherboard from a Dell XPS 4100 Intel board, to an MSI
board with the Athlon 64 bit processor.

When I swap this out, will Windows XP Pro change the hardware drivers
smoothly, allowing me to keep all of my Windows settings and service packs
without re-install?

For example, is it transparent like adding a new CD drive, or is it more
"fundamental" to the installation of Windows XP, requiring that I completely
re-install for the best performance (like in the old days)?

Activation is not an issue, I can re-activate the license if needed.

Thanks ~ DD
 
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you will have to perform a new
installation after you swap the motherboard. I suggest you back up all data,
format the hard drive, and do a clean install. To the best of my knowledge
you will not be able to do an upgrade type installation. If you do not want
to format the hard drive you will have to do a parallel install in which you
install Windows to a different folder. When you do this you will keep all
old data on the hard drive however, your old applications will have to be
reinstalled. The reason you have to do this is because Windows conforms
itself to your motherboard. A new motherboard is like a whole new world to
your Operating System. You might compare putting a new motherboard in your
computer to moving a blind man to a new house. The blind man does not know
the new house and will be bumping into everything. Reply back if you need
more help with this process.

Thanks,

John
http://www.americantechie.com
 
I beg to disagree; a repair install should do the job. Be prepared by doing
a backup of your data, and prepare for a reactivation, but you do not have
to reformat the drive. I have done this several times and have found you
will have to perform the service pack updates again as the install takes you
back to the original, but old applications and many settings are kept. You
might have to install drivers for specific MoBo items if XP does not pick
them up (sound or LAN for example). If you have on board LAN you might make
sure that it is working before you reactivate as you might have to phone it
in otherwise.


Ron
 
Suggest a little reading before you resort to wiping the
hard disk....

You receive a Stop 0x0000007B error after you move the
Windows XP system disk to another computer

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;314082

How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of
Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;315341

The Microsoft Policy Concerning Disk Duplication of
Windows XP Installations

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;314828

HOW TO: Use Files and Settings Transfer Wizard in Windows
XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;293118

Hope these articles help you out.
 
Ok, sure, you can do a repair install but it is not a sure thing that it will
work. I knew at least one person would disagree with me on this one. I
personally would do a format and reinstall in this case but I am not
everyone, and I sometimes let my opinion get in the way of what would be best
for the average user. I worked the XP tech support lines since it launched
and have dealt with this issue many times on many diverse systems. I have
found that when reinstalling after changing the motherboard sometimes a
repair works, sometimes it does not. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you
better cancel all your plans for the day. I have spent hours on the phone
trying to get this one to work in some cases and I guess I am hesitant
because of this. With that said I am a little rusty as I have ditched the
tech support job to pursue a degree in Computer Science. In any case prepare
as if you had to do a clean install by backing up your data so if you get to
this point you will have the option to make the plunge.

Another thing to consider is this installation is being done on a Dell
motherboard. Do you have a Dell CD or is it a retail CD? If it is a Dell CD
then you need to make sure you have the option to do a repair install from
the CD.
 
DD said:
I plan to upgrade my motherboard from a Dell XPS 4100 Intel board, to
an MSI board with the Athlon 64 bit processor.

When I swap this out, will Windows XP Pro change the hardware drivers
smoothly, allowing me to keep all of my Windows settings and service
packs without re-install?

For example, is it transparent like adding a new CD drive, or is it
more "fundamental" to the installation of Windows XP, requiring that
I completely re-install for the best performance (like in the old
days)?
Activation is not an issue, I can re-activate the license if needed.

Thanks ~ DD

Click on the link below, or copy and paste the link into the address box
if using the web based newsgroup.
Move XP to new hardware.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
 
DD said:
I went with MSI because, at this time, the board is top-rated by
Anandtech (and other HW review sites) for AMD 64. What is better
about ASUS or Intel?

Not anything, but everyone has their favorites. A newsgroup is the worst
place to ask for an opinions about hardware or software. MSI MB's generally
get very good reviews as does ASUS and Intel.. My biased experience has not
been good with Intel boards, but I have seen rave reviews from others with
Intel systems. I tend to check the manufacturers web site for their support
downloads and informational support pages. Look for online PDF manuals and
BIOS updates with detailed flash tutorials.
The real problem you have is XP OEM licensing does not allow for activation
on non-OEM replacement motherboards. Swapping out a MB will prompt for a
telephone activation and OEM activation is usually refused.

Click on the link below, or copy and paste the link into the address box
if using the web based newsgroup.
Move XP to new hardware.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
 
If you have a Dell OEM version of XP then the repair re-install, and the
full re-install, may not work. Dell has locked their XP to their
motherboard. You may have to buy a full XP kit.

BTW: OEM versions (any) do not allow you to transfer the XP from one
motherboard to another.. The license is forever "locked" onto the first
motherboard it was installed on. Only the original equipment manufacturer
(OEM) may allow you to move the XP license but it must be will their terms
and hardware (if they even allow it!)
 
| Ok, sure, you can do a repair install but it is not a sure thing that it
will
| work. I knew at least one person would disagree with me on this one. I
| personally would do a format and reinstall in this case but I am not
| everyone, and I sometimes let my opinion get in the way of what would be
best
| for the average user. I worked the XP tech support lines since it
launched
| and have dealt with this issue many times on many diverse systems. I have
| found that when reinstalling after changing the motherboard sometimes a
| repair works, sometimes it does not. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes
you
| better cancel all your plans for the day. I have spent hours on the phone
| trying to get this one to work in some cases and I guess I am hesitant
| because of this. With that said I am a little rusty as I have ditched the
| tech support job to pursue a degree in Computer Science. In any case
prepare
| as if you had to do a clean install by backing up your data so if you get
to
| this point you will have the option to make the plunge.
|
| Another thing to consider is this installation is being done on a Dell
| motherboard. Do you have a Dell CD or is it a retail CD? If it is a Dell
CD
| then you need to make sure you have the option to do a repair install from
| the CD.
|
|
| "no_one" wrote:
|
| > I beg to disagree; a repair install should do the job. Be prepared by
doing
| > a backup of your data, and prepare for a reactivation, but you do not
have
| > to reformat the drive. I have done this several times and have found
you
| > will have to perform the service pack updates again as the install takes
you
| > back to the original, but old applications and many settings are kept.
You
| > might have to install drivers for specific MoBo items if XP does not
pick
| > them up (sound or LAN for example). If you have on board LAN you might
make
| > sure that it is working before you reactivate as you might have to phone
it
| > in otherwise.
| >
| >
| > Ron
| >
message
| > | > > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you will have to perform a new
| > > installation after you swap the motherboard. I suggest you back up
all
| > > data,
| > > format the hard drive, and do a clean install. To the best of my
| > > knowledge
| > > you will not be able to do an upgrade type installation. If you do
not
| > > want
| > > to format the hard drive you will have to do a parallel install in
which
| > > you
| > > install Windows to a different folder. When you do this you will keep
all
| > > old data on the hard drive however, your old applications will have to
be
| > > reinstalled. The reason you have to do this is because Windows
conforms
| > > itself to your motherboard. A new motherboard is like a whole new
world
| > > to
| > > your Operating System. You might compare putting a new motherboard in
| > > your
| > > computer to moving a blind man to a new house. The blind man does not
| > > know
| > > the new house and will be bumping into everything. Reply back if you
need
| > > more help with this process.
| > >
| > > Thanks,
| > >
| > > John
| > > http://www.americantechie.com
| > >
| > > "DD" wrote:
| > >
| > >> I plan to upgrade my motherboard from a Dell XPS 4100 Intel board, to
an
| > >> MSI
| > >> board with the Athlon 64 bit processor.
| > >>
| > >> When I swap this out, will Windows XP Pro change the hardware drivers
| > >> smoothly, allowing me to keep all of my Windows settings and service
| > >> packs
| > >> without re-install?
| > >>
| > >> For example, is it transparent like adding a new CD drive, or is it
more
| > >> "fundamental" to the installation of Windows XP, requiring that I
| > >> completely
| > >> re-install for the best performance (like in the old days)?
| > >>
| > >> Activation is not an issue, I can re-activate the license if needed.
| > >>
| > >> Thanks ~ DD
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >

Sorry, but you're not making any sense. If there's a good chance that a
repair install will work--and the chances are better than 50-50 in my
experience-- why not try it first? The option to do a clean install is still
there if something goes south, and there's no reason to spend the day
fighting a bad repair install; if it doesn't work, just reformat and start
over.
 
DD said:
I plan to upgrade my motherboard from a Dell XPS 4100 Intel board, to an MSI
board with the Athlon 64 bit processor.

When I swap this out, will Windows XP Pro change the hardware drivers
smoothly, allowing me to keep all of my Windows settings and service packs
without re-install?

No. And I don't think I would trust that even to the usual repair
reinstall. The 64 bit board will need its own drivers. And I would
wait for the proper 64 bit version of XP to be available - it is
currently in a late Beta you can get as 'preview'
 
If you help MS preview XP64 do you get a discount on the final version?

Alex said:
DD wrote:




No. And I don't think I would trust that even to the usual repair
reinstall. The 64 bit board will need its own drivers. And I would
wait for the proper 64 bit version of XP to be available - it is
currently in a late Beta you can get as 'preview'

--
Marko Jotic
"Common sense is anything but common".
From the notebooks of Lazarus Long. Robert A. Heinlein.
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