appcomp.txt file after Crashing PC game Messiah on windows xp sp2

[GovertGroenier]

I just got messiah an older game from shiny and installed the game
with no probs.
I can play the game so far but when I am dead the game goes black and
crashes with saying I saved the crash in a 47c5-appcompat.txt file

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="MessiahD3D.exe" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="a3dapi.dll" SIZE="471040"
CHECKSUM="0xBBEC8E1A" BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.3.678.0"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.3.678.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="3.12"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Aureal A3D API DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Aureal Inc."
PRODUCT_NAME="A3D API DLL" FILE_VERSION="3.12"
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="a3dapi.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="A3DAPI"
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1996-2000 Aureal Inc."
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4"
VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0"
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.3.678.0"
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.3.678.0" LINK_DATE="03/03/2000 21:30:22"
UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/03/2000 21:30:22" VER_LANGUAGE="Engels (Verenigde
Staten) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="Mmac3.dll" SIZE="146432"
CHECKSUM="0xFB4F10DF" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.8.0"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.8.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="1, 0, 8, 0"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="MMAC3" COMPANY_NAME="Mediamatics Inc"
PRODUCT_NAME="Mediamatics Inc MMAC3" FILE_VERSION="1, 0, 8, 0"
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="MMAC3.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="MMAC3"
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1997" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0"
VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2"
MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0"
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.8.0" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.8.0"
LINK_DATE="06/02/1999 22:03:54" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/02/1999 22:03:54"
/>
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="MessiahD3D.exe" SIZE="1130496"
CHECKSUM="0x8B4702EA" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0"
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:36"
UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:36" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="MessiahGlide3x.exe" SIZE="1069056"
CHECKSUM="0x37FD1F06" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0"
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:27"
UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:27" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="D3DIM700.DLL" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="d3dim700.dll" SIZE="825344"
CHECKSUM="0x43B43460" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.03.2600.2180"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Microsoft Direct3D" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft
Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System"
FILE_VERSION="5.03.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="D3DIM700.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="D3DIM700.dll"
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved."
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004"
VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xD20D3"
LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180"
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004
08:01:59" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 08:01:59" VER_LANGUAGE="Engels
(Verenigde Staten) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="1024512"
CHECKSUM="0x77A2DF25" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="DLL-bestand voor Windows NT BASE API-client"
COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Besturingssysteem
Microsoft® Windows®" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32"
INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation.
Alle rechten voorbehouden." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0"
VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32"
PE_CHECKSUM="0x105C38" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001"
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180"
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004
08:02:59" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 08:02:59"
VER_LANGUAGE="Nederlands (Nederland) [0x413]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>


Does any one know what this file means? Must I replace some dll files
?
Hopefully I can isolate the problem so I can fix it.

I have a p2 330 MHz, 512 mb SD ram, with a TNT2 64 pro card, DirectX9
c and I got the latest NVIDIA drivers installed. Further more I update
my SB PCI 128 drivers to the latest build.
I also update the game to the latest version

10x

 

[Jimmy S.]

Hi Govert,

If that's the DirectX 7 - Windows 95/98 version, then...

Try installing and playing that using 95/98 Compatibility mode.

To install a program using Windows XP's Compatibility Mode, hold
down SHIFT as you insert the game CD, use My Computer to browse
to the setup program, and then skip down to step 1 in the list below:

To run an installed program using Windows XP's Compatibility Mode,
first right click the program and "Send To..." / Desktop (create shortcut).

1.. Right click on the shortcut to the program.
2.. Click on Properties.
3.. Click on the Compatibility tab.
4.. Click on Run this program in compatibility mode and select one of these:
a.. Windows 95
b.. Windows 98
c.. Windows NT 4
d.. Windows 2000
5.. Under Display settings, check mark the mode that you think that is best:
a.. Run in 256 colors.
b.. Run in 640 X 480 screen resolution.
c.. Disable visual themes.

Click on Apply.Click on Ok.Double click on the program.

Of course, let's not forget to check for any patches or updates for that game.
A good place to find them is: www.avault.com/pcrl/patches_list.asp?letter=a

If you'd like to learn more information about compatibility mode, you can click the
link in the Compatibility tab that reads "Learn more about program compatibility",
or watch this Application Compatibility Power Point Presentation:
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/webcasts/wc112202/WC112202.ppt

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
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_________________________________________________________

I just got messiah an older game from shiny and installed the game
with no probs.
I can play the game so far but when I am dead the game goes black and
crashes with saying I saved the crash in a 47c5-appcompat.txt file

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="MessiahD3D.exe" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="a3dapi.dll" SIZE="471040"
CHECKSUM="0xBBEC8E1A" BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.3.678.0"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.3.678.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="3.12"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Aureal A3D API DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Aureal Inc."
PRODUCT_NAME="A3D API DLL" FILE_VERSION="3.12"
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="a3dapi.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="A3DAPI"
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1996-2000 Aureal Inc."
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4"
VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0"
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="3.3.678.0"
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="3.3.678.0" LINK_DATE="03/03/2000 21:30:22"
UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/03/2000 21:30:22" VER_LANGUAGE="Engels (Verenigde
Staten) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="Mmac3.dll" SIZE="146432"
CHECKSUM="0xFB4F10DF" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.8.0"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.8.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="1, 0, 8, 0"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="MMAC3" COMPANY_NAME="Mediamatics Inc"
PRODUCT_NAME="Mediamatics Inc MMAC3" FILE_VERSION="1, 0, 8, 0"
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="MMAC3.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="MMAC3"
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1997" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0"
VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2"
MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0"
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.8.0" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.8.0"
LINK_DATE="06/02/1999 22:03:54" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/02/1999 22:03:54"
/>
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="MessiahD3D.exe" SIZE="1130496"
CHECKSUM="0x8B4702EA" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0"
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:36"
UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:36" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="MessiahGlide3x.exe" SIZE="1069056"
CHECKSUM="0x37FD1F06" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0"
LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:27"
UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/23/2000 02:31:27" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="D3DIM700.DLL" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="d3dim700.dll" SIZE="825344"
CHECKSUM="0x43B43460" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.03.2600.2180"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="Microsoft Direct3D" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft
Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System"
FILE_VERSION="5.03.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
ORIGINAL_FILENAME="D3DIM700.dll" INTERNAL_NAME="D3DIM700.dll"
LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved."
VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004"
VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xD20D3"
LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180"
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.3.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004
08:01:59" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 08:01:59" VER_LANGUAGE="Engels
(Verenigde Staten) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="1024512"
CHECKSUM="0x77A2DF25" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180"
BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180"
FILE_DESCRIPTION="DLL-bestand voor Windows NT BASE API-client"
COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Besturingssysteem
Microsoft® Windows®" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32"
INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation.
Alle rechten voorbehouden." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0"
VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32"
PE_CHECKSUM="0x105C38" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001"
UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180"
UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004
08:02:59" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 08:02:59"
VER_LANGUAGE="Nederlands (Nederland) [0x413]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>


Does any one know what this file means? Must I replace some dll files
?
Hopefully I can isolate the problem so I can fix it.

I have a p2 330 MHz, 512 mb SD ram, with a TNT2 64 pro card, DirectX9
c and I got the latest NVIDIA drivers installed. Further more I update
my SB PCI 128 drivers to the latest build.
I also update the game to the latest version

10x

 

[GovertGroenier]

10x Jimmy S.

I use the compatibility mode. It is set on windows 2000.

I also added after viewing some other topics on Messiah the -i to the
"C:\Program Files\Shiny\Messiah\MessiahD3D.exe" -i

I failed to mention in my original message that I use SciTech GLDirect
to get the most out off directX 9c

I set the rendering optionsin the SciTech GLDirect Configuration to
SciTech GLdirect OpenGL driver for DX9
Further more I use Direct3D hardware acceleration

And last but not least I set the Select display device to, NVIDIA RIVA
TNT2 model 64/model 64 Pro [DX9] [SciTech GLDirect is now configured
for OpenGL API support. Requires DirectX 9 run-time components
installed.].

In the advanced options I got: Use multitexture if available; Enable
CAD Precision; Use application-specific Settings; always Blit; Enable
mipmapping; Multithreaded Operations, markt

The last settings in the advanced tab are: use Direct3D hardware TnL
and Enabled Multisampling off

I got all the latest drivers and game patches installed

I hope this helps

Hi Govert,

If that's the DirectX 7 - Windows 95/98 version, then...

Try installing and playing that using 95/98 Compatibility mode.

To install a program using Windows XP's Compatibility Mode, hold
down SHIFT as you insert the game CD, use My Computer to browse
to the setup program, and then skip down to step 1 in the list below:

To run an installed program using Windows XP's Compatibility Mode,
first right click the program and "Send To..." / Desktop (create shortcut).

1.. Right click on the shortcut to the program.
2.. Click on Properties.
3.. Click on the Compatibility tab.
4.. Click on Run this program in compatibility mode and select one of these:
a.. Windows 95
b.. Windows 98
c.. Windows NT 4
d.. Windows 2000
5.. Under Display settings, check mark the mode that you think that is best:
a.. Run in 256 colors.
b.. Run in 640 X 480 screen resolution.
c.. Disable visual themes.

Click on Apply.Click on Ok.Double click on the program.

Of course, let's not forget to check for any patches or updates for that game.
A good place to find them is: www.avault.com/pcrl/patches_list.asp?letter=a

If you'd like to learn more information about compatibility mode, you can click the
link in the Compatibility tab that reads "Learn more about program compatibility",
or watch this Application Compatibility Power Point Presentation:
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/webcasts/wc112202/WC112202.ppt

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

 

[Jimmy S.]

Hi Govert,

I never used SciTech GLDirect when I had a TNT years
ago, however I would suggest testing the game without using
it in case it's causing the problem you're experiencing now.

Since you're using 2000 Compatibility mode, have you also
tried Windows 95 or Windows 98 Compatibility mode lately?

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

10x Jimmy S.

I use the compatibility mode. It is set on windows 2000.

I also added after viewing some other topics on Messiah the -i to the
"C:\Program Files\Shiny\Messiah\MessiahD3D.exe" -i

I failed to mention in my original message that I use SciTech GLDirect
to get the most out off directX 9c

I set the rendering optionsin the SciTech GLDirect Configuration to
SciTech GLdirect OpenGL driver for DX9
Further more I use Direct3D hardware acceleration

And last but not least I set the Select display device to, NVIDIA RIVA
TNT2 model 64/model 64 Pro [DX9] [SciTech GLDirect is now configured
for OpenGL API support. Requires DirectX 9 run-time components
installed.].

In the advanced options I got: Use multitexture if available; Enable
CAD Precision; Use application-specific Settings; always Blit; Enable
mipmapping; Multithreaded Operations, markt

The last settings in the advanced tab are: use Direct3D hardware TnL
and Enabled Multisampling off

I got all the latest drivers and game patches installed

I hope this helps

Hi Govert,

If that's the DirectX 7 - Windows 95/98 version, then...

Try installing and playing that using 95/98 Compatibility mode.

To install a program using Windows XP's Compatibility Mode, hold
down SHIFT as you insert the game CD, use My Computer to browse
to the setup program, and then skip down to step 1 in the list below:

To run an installed program using Windows XP's Compatibility Mode,
first right click the program and "Send To..." / Desktop (create shortcut).

1.. Right click on the shortcut to the program.
2.. Click on Properties.
3.. Click on the Compatibility tab.
4.. Click on Run this program in compatibility mode and select one of these:
a.. Windows 95
b.. Windows 98
c.. Windows NT 4
d.. Windows 2000
5.. Under Display settings, check mark the mode that you think that is best:
a.. Run in 256 colors.
b.. Run in 640 X 480 screen resolution.
c.. Disable visual themes.

Click on Apply.Click on Ok.Double click on the program.

Of course, let's not forget to check for any patches or updates for that game.
A good place to find them is: www.avault.com/pcrl/patches_list.asp?letter=a

If you'd like to learn more information about compatibility mode, you can click the
link in the Compatibility tab that reads "Learn more about program compatibility",
or watch this Application Compatibility Power Point Presentation:
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/webcasts/wc112202/WC112202.ppt

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

 

[GovertGroenier]

Yep I tried the windows 98 compatibility mode but without a good
result. [I conducted these test with the default open gl drivers] when
surfing the net I found this
................................................................................


Question: I get problems in Messiah, especially when enabling T&L. How
can I fix them?
Answer: Install the latest patch and run Messiah with the -p command
line switch.

If you want to use T&L support, currently you must set 'Character
Texture Resolution (AGP)' to 'Medium'.



................................................................................

So I taught what the heck let try this -p setting [even when I have a
tnt2 card] and put agp on medium [was low]. For other people the -i
setting means no intro movies

The best result till now is when put disk 1 in the cd rom drive

Second make a copy of disk 2[music], I used alcohol 120%. Disc 2 has
no copy protection by the way. After finishing the copying part load
this in your virtual cd/dvd drive created by alcohol 120%


Third I used SciTech GLDirect use the default settings but adjust the
SET RENDERING OPTION to the directX version you have in installed.

Fourth I also added on my messiah desktop icon [right click -
properties - target "C:\Program files\Shiny\Messiah\MessiahD3D.exe" -p
-i. The -i -p part

It is a shame the www.messiah.com is gone [troubleshooting guide]


Some specs

------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 10/15/2004, 23:50:30
Machine name: LISA
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service
Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: N/A
System Model: N/A
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel Celeron, MMX, ~330MHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 240MB used, 1776MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed,
which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows
Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd
driver from the hardware manufacturer. DirectDraw test results: All
tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were
successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful.
Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were
successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were
successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (N/A)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (N/A)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (N/A)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_002D&SUBSYS_002D1569&REV_15
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6177 (English)
DDI Version: 7
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/15/2004 11:42:00, 3740032 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n.v.t.
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 7/15/2004 11:42:00, 2459712 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-436D-11CF-F86E-2720B4C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x002D
SubSys ID: 0x002D1569
Revision ID: 0x0015
Revision ID: 0x0015
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: N/A
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------
Description: SB PCI
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1274&DEV_5880&SUBSYS_20001274&REV_02
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: sbpci.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.5017 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 10/22/2002 15:45:42, 668160 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative Technology Ltd.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 96000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 63
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 63
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: SB PCI
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: sbpci.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.5017 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 10/22/2002 15:45:42, 668160 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

-----------
DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: N/A
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode),
Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
SB PCI, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS,
Internal
Microsoft MIDI-mapped (emulatie), Hardware (Not
Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB PCI Synthesizer (emulatie), Hardware (Not Kernel
Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB PCI External MIDI (emulatie), Hardware (Not
Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft GS Wavetable-software (emulatie), Hardware
(Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB PCI External MIDI (emulatie), Hardware (Not
Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Registry: OK
Test Result: All tests were successful.

 

[Jimmy S.]

Hi Govert,

Over at NT Compatible they say it..
"Works, but requires specific settings.
First update to the .2 patch, and then
add +! to the commandline: 'MessiahD3D.exe +!'.
Then set the app for 'Windows 2000' compatibility, and it should run.

Turning off 'Pre-load cached files' in the game settings may prevent
many sudden crashes to desktop. "

Find out more at: http://www.ntcompatible.com/cdetail8626.html

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Yep I tried the windows 98 compatibility mode but without a good
result. [I conducted these test with the default open gl drivers] when
surfing the net I found this
...............................................................................


Question: I get problems in Messiah, especially when enabling T&L. How
can I fix them?
Answer: Install the latest patch and run Messiah with the -p command
line switch.

If you want to use T&L support, currently you must set 'Character
Texture Resolution (AGP)' to 'Medium'.



...............................................................................

So I taught what the heck let try this -p setting [even when I have a
tnt2 card] and put agp on medium [was low]. For other people the -i
setting means no intro movies

The best result till now is when put disk 1 in the cd rom drive

Second make a copy of disk 2[music], I used alcohol 120%. Disc 2 has
no copy protection by the way. After finishing the copying part load
this in your virtual cd/dvd drive created by alcohol 120%


Third I used SciTech GLDirect use the default settings but adjust the
SET RENDERING OPTION to the directX version you have in installed.

Fourth I also added on my messiah desktop icon [right click -
properties - target "C:\Program files\Shiny\Messiah\MessiahD3D.exe" -p
-i. The -i -p part

It is a shame the www.messiah.com is gone [troubleshooting guide]


Some specs

------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 10/15/2004, 23:50:30
Machine name: LISA
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service
Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: N/A
System Model: N/A
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel Celeron, MMX, ~330MHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 240MB used, 1776MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed,
which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows
Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd
driver from the hardware manufacturer. DirectDraw test results: All
tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were
successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful.
Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were
successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were
successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (N/A)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (N/A)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (N/A)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_002D&SUBSYS_002D1569&REV_15
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6177 (English)
DDI Version: 7
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/15/2004 11:42:00, 3740032 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n.v.t.
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 7/15/2004 11:42:00, 2459712 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-436D-11CF-F86E-2720B4C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x002D
SubSys ID: 0x002D1569
Revision ID: 0x0015
Revision ID: 0x0015
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: N/A
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Devices
-------------
Description: SB PCI
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1274&DEV_5880&SUBSYS_20001274&REV_02
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: sbpci.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.5017 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 10/22/2002 15:45:42, 668160 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative Technology Ltd.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 96000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 63
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 63
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: SB PCI
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: sbpci.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.5017 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 10/22/2002 15:45:42, 668160 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: N/A
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode),
Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
SB PCI, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS,
Internal
Microsoft MIDI-mapped (emulatie), Hardware (Not
Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB PCI Synthesizer (emulatie), Hardware (Not Kernel
Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB PCI External MIDI (emulatie), Hardware (Not
Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft GS Wavetable-software (emulatie), Hardware
(Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB PCI External MIDI (emulatie), Hardware (Not
Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Registry: OK
Test Result: All tests were successful.

 

[GovertGroenier]

Ok this was the last thing I tried and will try
I removed SciTech GLDirectT, and deinstalled my NVIDIA drivers
rebooted in save mode and cleaned the last remaining of NVIDIA drivers
out with drive cleanser. Then I rebooted and installed the last NVIDIA
drivers.

I checked with Realtech VR if opengl was working properly and it
was
I reinstalled messiah, updated the game with the messiah patch

Linked the messiahd3d.exe to the desktop and selected windows 2000
compatibility mode

At first I thought my god I have done it but after a while the game
crashed again back to the desktop

I think the game is to buggy for windows xp :-(

Thanks for the tips Jimmy S.

 

[GovertGroenier]

Thanks for the tip [http://www.ntcompatible.com/cdetail8626.html]
But it does not work for me. I blame the bugs in Messiah
Oh well it cost me only 5 euros but it is still a shame. I loved
playing MDK2 and Sacrifice both games also from shiny.