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Doris Day
Frank said:
Just your type Frankie boy...
Love and Kisses,
Doris
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Just your type Frankie boy...
Love and Kisses,
Doris
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Doris Day
Frank said:LOL...Not the last time I was there he wasn't.
Frank
Hey, Frankie boy ... tell us why you use an Open Source application like
Mozilla to post here? Shouldn't you be using Outlook Express (or the
rebranded "Mail") and remain a true Windoze Fanyboy?
Love and Kisses,
Doris
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Frank
Doris said:Frank wrote:
Hey, Frankie boy ... tell us why you use an Open Source application like
Mozilla to post here? Shouldn't you be using Outlook Express (or the
rebranded "Mail") and remain a true Windoze Fanyboy?
Love and Kisses,
Doris
Oh Doris, don't make me laugh! You're so narrow minded recently. Don't
let that weight gain get you down.
We still love you even if there is more to love.
Frank
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Kerry Brown
I've successfully run 32 bit versions of Vista on every computer I've tried
it on, at last count over twenty. On a couple I had a hard time finding some
of the drivers. I've had less success with 64 bit versions but only at
finding drivers. If drivers are available I've had very few problems.
it on, at last count over twenty. On a couple I had a hard time finding some
of the drivers. I've had less success with 64 bit versions but only at
finding drivers. If drivers are available I've had very few problems.
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Richard Urban
My Vista installs are up to over 70 at this point. I have had only one that
caused concerns, and that was due to sub par hardware. But, the customer
insisted - against my recommendations.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
caused concerns, and that was due to sub par hardware. But, the customer
insisted - against my recommendations.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
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Kevin
I LOVE IT. It's been running just fine on two PC's here for 2 months. I
would NEVER go back.
would NEVER go back.
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Vusta
nsag, get someone to do it for you.
- Vusta
:I am trying but:
: Drivers do not all work or only work partly.
: Consistent networking with XP machines is impossible, particularly sharing
: printers.
: Internet media streaming hiccoughs while XP machines on the same network
: with the same sources never lose the stream.
: I am logged in as the administrator but am frequently told I do not have
: administrator privileges for simple file maintenance chores.
: Photoshop filters that work under XP do not always work under Vista.
: I am truly astounded that Microsoft thought this dog was ready for the
show.
: Must be Balmer.
:
:
- Vusta
:I am trying but:
: Drivers do not all work or only work partly.
: Consistent networking with XP machines is impossible, particularly sharing
: printers.
: Internet media streaming hiccoughs while XP machines on the same network
: with the same sources never lose the stream.
: I am logged in as the administrator but am frequently told I do not have
: administrator privileges for simple file maintenance chores.
: Photoshop filters that work under XP do not always work under Vista.
: I am truly astounded that Microsoft thought this dog was ready for the
show.
: Must be Balmer.
:
:
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Steve Thackery
Like many other posters, my Vista (Home Premium) has worked really well. I
installed it on brand new hardware, so there would be no problems with
legacy kit.
In terms of bugs, I've noticed the problem with very slow file transfers
over the network (known to Microsoft and being worked on). I installed the
latest graphics driver (which, like most, is still technically beta) and saw
a major slow-down, so I rolled back to the one that came in the box and all
was well again.
Oh, and it won't sleep properly (apparently like 99% of other
installations!).
I think the user interface is a great improvement on XP. Gone are the
patronising "My" prefixes; gone is the hideous Fisher-Price colour scheme;
gone are the dreadful sound schemes. The animations and eye candy are
subtle and elegant, unlike many of the demos I've seen on Linux.
Personally I don't mind the UAC prompts. They are a nuisance during the
first few days whilst you are installing apps, fiddling about and generally
setting things up, but during "normal" use they really don't come up all
that often. I quite like the idea that the system lets me know when
something that could be "dodgy" is about to happen.
I've studied the technical content on Channel 9 and am very impressed by the
significant engineering improvements under the hood, which should make it a
much better OS in terms of security, reliability and resilience. I expect
to see Vista settle down into a really solid OS over the next year or so.
Meanwhile I'm using it with the full range of MS Office apps, Paint Shop Pro
for graphics, Delphi and Visual Studio for software development, IE7 for the
Web, plus a few other bits and bobs. I don't use it for games, so can't
comment there.
Over the coming months I expect to see the few bugs I've commented on above
get flushed out. All in all I've had a very satisfactory experience and
like Vista much more than XP.
Steve
installed it on brand new hardware, so there would be no problems with
legacy kit.
In terms of bugs, I've noticed the problem with very slow file transfers
over the network (known to Microsoft and being worked on). I installed the
latest graphics driver (which, like most, is still technically beta) and saw
a major slow-down, so I rolled back to the one that came in the box and all
was well again.
Oh, and it won't sleep properly (apparently like 99% of other
installations!).
I think the user interface is a great improvement on XP. Gone are the
patronising "My" prefixes; gone is the hideous Fisher-Price colour scheme;
gone are the dreadful sound schemes. The animations and eye candy are
subtle and elegant, unlike many of the demos I've seen on Linux.
Personally I don't mind the UAC prompts. They are a nuisance during the
first few days whilst you are installing apps, fiddling about and generally
setting things up, but during "normal" use they really don't come up all
that often. I quite like the idea that the system lets me know when
something that could be "dodgy" is about to happen.
I've studied the technical content on Channel 9 and am very impressed by the
significant engineering improvements under the hood, which should make it a
much better OS in terms of security, reliability and resilience. I expect
to see Vista settle down into a really solid OS over the next year or so.
Meanwhile I'm using it with the full range of MS Office apps, Paint Shop Pro
for graphics, Delphi and Visual Studio for software development, IE7 for the
Web, plus a few other bits and bobs. I don't use it for games, so can't
comment there.
Over the coming months I expect to see the few bugs I've commented on above
get flushed out. All in all I've had a very satisfactory experience and
like Vista much more than XP.
Steve
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Bram
I've posted it before:
Vista is running extremely smoothly on my PC. No problems at all.
Actually it runs much better than XP when it was first released. All
in all I'm very happy with it - going back to XP seems like going back
into time. It just feels so dated after you've gotten used to Vista.
Vista is running extremely smoothly on my PC. No problems at all.
Actually it runs much better than XP when it was first released. All
in all I'm very happy with it - going back to XP seems like going back
into time. It just feels so dated after you've gotten used to Vista.
H
Hertz_Donut
nsag said:I am trying but:
Drivers do not all work or only work partly.
You *MUST* use the *VISTA* drivers for the version of Vista that you have.
*ANY* other version of drivers for *ANY* other version of windows wil not
work.
Consistent networking with XP machines is impossible, particularly sharing
printers.
Funny, I have a network of 5 computers, 2 printers, and 3 NAS boxes, and
they all work fine under Vista.
Internet media streaming hiccoughs while XP machines on the same network
with the same sources never lose the stream.
Have you tried setting priorities, changing the channels and other routine
fixes when having network "hiccups"?
I am logged in as the administrator but am frequently told I do not have
administrator privileges for simple file maintenance chores.
This is normal for Vista. It is part of UAC. If you had done *ANY*
homework before installing Vista, you would know that. User accounts are
not granted Admin priveleges carte balnche...it is part of the enhanced
security protocols of Vista.
Photoshop filters that work under XP do not always work under Vista.
Because they were written for Windows XP. Read the next sentence very,
very carefully:
Windows Vista is not Windows XP.
Now, I'll type that for you again, this time read it very slowly:
Windows Vista in not Windows XP.
It any of this beginning to make sense to you?
I am truly astounded that Microsoft thought this dog was ready for the
show. Must be Balmer.
I think it must be you. You sound like you can barely manage to turn your
computer on. Maybe you should limit yourself to something a little less
challenging, say an Etch-A-Sketch.
Every "problem" that you describe is easily fixable if you have half a clue
as to what you are doing.
On second thought...maybe you should just give it all up and take up the
Yo-Yo.
Honu
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PMK
Oh you mean that system with the Spinning Circle of Death? The only
way I can get anything done on my new Toshiba notebook is in a XP or
2003 Server VMware virtual Machine. There is a VMWare beta that is
Vista compatible that seems to work well. I can avoid many, but not
all the Vista problems that way.
I can't burn DVDs in a virtual machine but that only partially works
under Vista anyway.
I got to find the time to look for XP drivers for the notebook some
more - so far no luck.
Peter
way I can get anything done on my new Toshiba notebook is in a XP or
2003 Server VMware virtual Machine. There is a VMWare beta that is
Vista compatible that seems to work well. I can avoid many, but not
all the Vista problems that way.
I can't burn DVDs in a virtual machine but that only partially works
under Vista anyway.
I got to find the time to look for XP drivers for the notebook some
more - so far no luck.
Peter
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PMK
There are a lot of replies like this on this and similar threads
dealing with Vista problems, but these replies reference installs. Yet
the complaints are rarely about installs - they are about actually
doing things, particularly involving networking.
Want an example? I right click a file on a remote share and it takes 1
or two minutes for the menu to display. Not only that, if I do
anything else while waiting, the Spinning Circle of Death starts up
and from that point I can leave it alone or piss around - it doesn't
matter - the eventual outcome will be a cold reboot.
Even an XP virtual machine on the same host doesn't act like that.
It'll be slower - maybe 5 seconds instead of the 2 on a native
XP/2000/2003 machine.
Task Manager - forget about it. I can never call it up when I need it
- usually an attempt will result in an eventual cold reboot.
Actually this has inspired me to get back to work looking for XP
drivers again.
Peter
dealing with Vista problems, but these replies reference installs. Yet
the complaints are rarely about installs - they are about actually
doing things, particularly involving networking.
Want an example? I right click a file on a remote share and it takes 1
or two minutes for the menu to display. Not only that, if I do
anything else while waiting, the Spinning Circle of Death starts up
and from that point I can leave it alone or piss around - it doesn't
matter - the eventual outcome will be a cold reboot.
Even an XP virtual machine on the same host doesn't act like that.
It'll be slower - maybe 5 seconds instead of the 2 on a native
XP/2000/2003 machine.
Task Manager - forget about it. I can never call it up when I need it
- usually an attempt will result in an eventual cold reboot.
Actually this has inspired me to get back to work looking for XP
drivers again.
Peter
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Guest
I disagree with you. I am Networking Vista with XP. I have a Lexmark Printer
hooked up to XP, and CAN print from vista.
Mick Murphy in Ausralia(QLD)
hooked up to XP, and CAN print from vista.
Mick Murphy in Ausralia(QLD)
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Guest
i have the same prob most of my stuff is now no use at all including my
compaq running windows 2002
compaq running windows 2002
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Debra Lichtenwalner
Have to agree, running VISTA at home and works beautifully. Now my computerI've posted it before:
Vista is running extremely smoothly on my PC. No problems at all.
Actually it runs much better than XP when it was first released. All
in all I'm very happy with it - going back to XP seems like going back
into time. It just feels so dated after you've gotten used to Vista.
was bought about 2 months ago, with VISTA on, it was not an older computer
upgraded or a clean install. The only problem I have encountered that was a
VISTA issue took about a 10 minute (because I am on dial up) download for a
patch to fix. The only other problem I had, which was not due to VISTA was
the new printer I received with the computer was touted to be VISTA ready
and surprise, it wasn't. Now that certainly wasn't VISTA's fault in the
matter. But again, just a simple download for a driver and all was good and
raring to go. I am far from a being computer literate, but I find that VISTA
is really easy to work with and do what I need it to do. My daughter gets
around faster on it than she ever did on the old XP one.
I have a bunch of friends that have either made a new purchase or clean
installs. Out of those 15 or so people, only 2 have had issues with VISTA
and they ended up being more of an OP error as their older computer was not
capable of the upgrade.
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Kerry Brown
I specifically said run and not install. I have thoroughly tested Vista on
all of the computers I've installed it on. I have seen some of the slow
networking problems but never anything like what you you describe. The
problems I have seen have always involved folders with many files in them
that Windows wants to process because of file associations. I do believe
there may be a bug causing this behaviour. I have also seen this behaviour
in XP.
all of the computers I've installed it on. I have seen some of the slow
networking problems but never anything like what you you describe. The
problems I have seen have always involved folders with many files in them
that Windows wants to process because of file associations. I do believe
there may be a bug causing this behaviour. I have also seen this behaviour
in XP.
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Mike Hall - MS MVP
Drivers are still a problem, much as they were during the transition from
Win 98 to XP..
I have had no problems networking to XP, 2000, ME or 98.. admittedly, file
transfers can be annoyingly slow sometimes, but that problem is being looked
at by MS
No problems with Internet media streaming either, but video drivers play
their part here..
UAC is a protection, but it can be turned off..
I don't use Photoshop, sorry
If you were to compare Vista with XP when first released, you would notice
that the same complaints, more or less are being leveled..
--
Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
Win 98 to XP..
I have had no problems networking to XP, 2000, ME or 98.. admittedly, file
transfers can be annoyingly slow sometimes, but that problem is being looked
at by MS
No problems with Internet media streaming either, but video drivers play
their part here..
UAC is a protection, but it can be turned off..
I don't use Photoshop, sorry
If you were to compare Vista with XP when first released, you would notice
that the same complaints, more or less are being leveled..
realkit said:i have the same prob most of my stuff is now no use at all including my
compaq running windows 2002
--
Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
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Keith Patrick
The bugs I have problems with are the ones that are UI ones that are worse
than they were in XP. Window focus can still break (clicking a title bar
won't bring windows to the front, or windows can somehow have their Z-order
set to be always on top), which just amazes me 10 years after it really
started to show flakiness. But in the meantime, they've managed to break
VPN (I'll VPN, go to RDP for an hour or two, but when I try to disconnect
from the VPN, the VPN connection doesn't appear; I have to go into the
network/sharing center & attempt to "connect" to the VPN to get the
disconnection UI), gutted mouse-based program browsing in favor of...typing
the name in a search box(?!?!?!?), make IE7 hellaciously unstable (in all
fairness, the crash is usually caused by Flash, but Flash it used on too
many sites that I depend on), and make Outlook Express even worse with an
almost infinite looping bug when trying to connect to MS Communities due to
Windows Live integration.
than they were in XP. Window focus can still break (clicking a title bar
won't bring windows to the front, or windows can somehow have their Z-order
set to be always on top), which just amazes me 10 years after it really
started to show flakiness. But in the meantime, they've managed to break
VPN (I'll VPN, go to RDP for an hour or two, but when I try to disconnect
from the VPN, the VPN connection doesn't appear; I have to go into the
network/sharing center & attempt to "connect" to the VPN to get the
disconnection UI), gutted mouse-based program browsing in favor of...typing
the name in a search box(?!?!?!?), make IE7 hellaciously unstable (in all
fairness, the crash is usually caused by Flash, but Flash it used on too
many sites that I depend on), and make Outlook Express even worse with an
almost infinite looping bug when trying to connect to MS Communities due to
Windows Live integration.
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babaloo
It is heartwarming to know Vista works for those who replied above.
In the real world I inhabit I do not know a single person who is able to run
Vista successfully and who does not rely on XP for actual work.
Vista is not 1.x of anything: Microsoft and established peripheral vendors
now have nearly twenty years of experience with Windows of all flavors nad
should be able to issue an OS that on Day 1 installs, configures network
settings and works at least as well as its predecessor in every phase of its
operation.
I was very patient with Windows 3.x, 9.x and found that XP actually worked
quite well on Day One, apart from lack of drivers but the drivers actually
worked when they were issued. I do not have the time or patience anymore to
work through the garbage that Microsoft should have fixed, including
unstable system settings like networking/administrator configurations that
never work the same way twice whenever the computer is rebooted.
By now most users realize that in a dual boot system your Vista System
Restore settings are wiped out if you boot to XP? XP never had this problem
with dual booting. Shipping a product in that condition is utter insanity
and demonstrates utter disregard for customers. Since I dual boot, because I
cannot rely on Vista for real work, I suspect that may be one reason Vista
cannot hold on to properly configured settings.
And I should note: Vista is installed on its own hard drive that has never
had anything on it but Vista. It is not used as the swap drive for XP or as
a scratch drive for Photoshop.
Vista=beta crud.
Did I mention:
Vista=beta crud.
The Bush administration, and note the federal government will not allow
Vista to be installed on its computers, will not go after Microsoft over
Vista but it will be interesting to see what the Europeans do.
In the real world I inhabit I do not know a single person who is able to run
Vista successfully and who does not rely on XP for actual work.
Vista is not 1.x of anything: Microsoft and established peripheral vendors
now have nearly twenty years of experience with Windows of all flavors nad
should be able to issue an OS that on Day 1 installs, configures network
settings and works at least as well as its predecessor in every phase of its
operation.
I was very patient with Windows 3.x, 9.x and found that XP actually worked
quite well on Day One, apart from lack of drivers but the drivers actually
worked when they were issued. I do not have the time or patience anymore to
work through the garbage that Microsoft should have fixed, including
unstable system settings like networking/administrator configurations that
never work the same way twice whenever the computer is rebooted.
By now most users realize that in a dual boot system your Vista System
Restore settings are wiped out if you boot to XP? XP never had this problem
with dual booting. Shipping a product in that condition is utter insanity
and demonstrates utter disregard for customers. Since I dual boot, because I
cannot rely on Vista for real work, I suspect that may be one reason Vista
cannot hold on to properly configured settings.
And I should note: Vista is installed on its own hard drive that has never
had anything on it but Vista. It is not used as the swap drive for XP or as
a scratch drive for Photoshop.
Vista=beta crud.
Did I mention:
Vista=beta crud.
The Bush administration, and note the federal government will not allow
Vista to be installed on its computers, will not go after Microsoft over
Vista but it will be interesting to see what the Europeans do.
L
LoneStar
babaloo said:It is heartwarming to know Vista works for those who replied above.
In the real world I inhabit I do not know a single person who is able to
run Vista successfully and who does not rely on XP for actual work.
Then I must have a problem. My new Dell w/ Vista Home Premium is about as
perfect a computer system as I've ever had. I've been with PCs since the
inception of DOS, had ALL Windows versions, and so far Vista is more stable,
faster, and more useful than any others (with XP a very close second). Of
course I'm careful with what I do on my system and I maintain it well.
Plus, I actually know something about computers, and that really helps!
EW