Joy of Vista

[babaloo]

I have a SCSI adapter with Vista drivers: the drivers do not work. Tech
support is of no help.
I have the typical Vista/XP networking problems. Basically unreliable and
settings are not held from session to session.
Vista frequently hiccoughs (the hypnotic spinning circle) and is time by
your watch slower for doing many of the same tasks as XP (on a fast dual
core with gobs of RAM and a high end video card). That's not considering the
idiot warning boxes before doing simple file operations.
I sign in as administrator and Vista does not let me move files because it
says I do not have administrator privileges. I am unable to change that.
Randomly if the mouse crosses a web link or a desk top icon Vista opens that
web link or opens that program.
I have to endure the replacement for Outlook Express with enforced
advertising links.
I have a dual boot system and use a Spyder II calibration device for color
management in Photoshop. The monitor calibrates quite well under XP and
yields reasonable color managed prints. However under Vista I am unable to
calibrate the exact same monitor. Is this due to the monitor driver, the
video driver, the calibration driver/program?
Who cares. A curse on all their houses. I am not supposed to have to work
all this out, they are.
I respect Microsoft and think Bill Gates is a monumental figure for his
marketing computers to us masses and now for his philanthropic work.
But Vista is the absolutely worst product Microsoft has ever published
because at this point in history Microsoft should know better.
For the first time in my life I am seriously considering getting a Mac
because if Microsoft cans XP support I refuse to use Vista in its current
form.

 

[Charles W Davis]

babaloo,

I suggest that you post each of your problems in a seperate post. They can
then be addressed as seperate issues. You will find that you will get many
more satisfactory results.

Good luck!

 

[Bill]

I cautioned one of my customers to buy his new computer with XP, since he
uses various music recording devices and programs, as well as external cd
and dvd writers. I told him that a lot of devices do not have Vista
drivers and many programs do not work with Vista. Since he owns a
business, he was able to buy a Dell with XP. Within in a couple of
hours, he was up and running and everything was working as it should. If
he would not have been able to get a machine with XP, I was going to let
him test drive Linux and see if it met his needs. Vista is seriously
broken.

 

[Peter Foldes]

Charles

The OP was ranting not asking

 

[Pipboy]

Vista is seriously
broken.

Um, no. The hardware vendors are seriously lazy and annoying for not
supplying us with Vista drivers in a timely manner. A friend gave me this
Mercury TV Tuner card and the only drivers it has is ver.1.0 beta drivers
for XP. They don't plan to provide Vista drivers for it either. The tuner
was bought new last year. Is that Microsoft's fault? No, it's the shitty TV
Tuner company who is at fault. Don't ever buy a Mecury TV Tuner, they will
**** you over with shitty drivers.

 

[Malcolm H]

I have a SCSI adapter with Vista drivers: the drivers do not work. Tech
support is of no help.
I have the typical Vista/XP networking problems. Basically unreliable and
settings are not held from session to session.
Vista frequently hiccoughs (the hypnotic spinning circle) and is time by
your watch slower for doing many of the same tasks as XP (on a fast dual
core with gobs of RAM and a high end video card). That's not considering
the idiot warning boxes before doing simple file operations.
I sign in as administrator and Vista does not let me move files because it
says I do not have administrator privileges. I am unable to change that.
Randomly if the mouse crosses a web link or a desk top icon Vista opens
that web link or opens that program.
I have to endure the replacement for Outlook Express with enforced
advertising links.
I have a dual boot system and use a Spyder II calibration device for color
management in Photoshop. The monitor calibrates quite well under XP and
yields reasonable color managed prints. However under Vista I am unable to
calibrate the exact same monitor. Is this due to the monitor driver, the
video driver, the calibration driver/program?
Who cares. A curse on all their houses. I am not supposed to have to work
all this out, they are.
I respect Microsoft and think Bill Gates is a monumental figure for his
marketing computers to us masses and now for his philanthropic work.
But Vista is the absolutely worst product Microsoft has ever published
because at this point in history Microsoft should know better.
For the first time in my life I am seriously considering getting a Mac
because if Microsoft cans XP support I refuse to use Vista in its current
form.

I totally agree with these sentiments!

Malcolm H

 

[DP]

For the record, MS recently said XP support would last a few more years.
I've forgotten the exact number,but it's not like they're going to can it
tomorrow. I think at least a couple more years of XP support has been
promised. And it may be even longer than that.
(Also for the record, my Vista Ultimate 64 experience has been virtually
flawless. But obviously, lots of folks are having Vista problems. But lots
of folks also had XP problems, and XP SP1 problems and XP SP 2 problems.)

 

[Guest]

supposed to be another 6 years support for XP

For the record, MS recently said XP support would last a few more years.
I've forgotten the exact number,but it's not like they're going to can it
tomorrow. I think at least a couple more years of XP support has been
promised. And it may be even longer than that.
(Also for the record, my Vista Ultimate 64 experience has been virtually
flawless. But obviously, lots of folks are having Vista problems. But lots
of folks also had XP problems, and XP SP1 problems and XP SP 2 problems.)

 

[Guest]

Yep, and then it will be time to upgrade to Vista. <g>

 

[PMK]

I feel your pain as I have had many of these same problems.

I've been a server/helpdesk admin for 8 years and worked with Windows
since its beginning, as well as other OSs including OS2 and Linux.
I've posted a lot of questions, some answers, but hardly ever a
complaint with 2000, XP and 2003, but I got to say this is the worst
Windows since 98 and ME. I'm only using it because I can't find XP
drivers yet for my new Toshiba notebook.

Now I'm now doing my work on it in a virtual machine running XP. The
ViSTA networking in particular is very frustrating to use. I right
click on a file over the network and if I do anything at all for the
next two minutes (should only be a few seconds) until the menu pops up
the system will hang to the point I have to remove the battery
momentarily to get my computer back. Task Manager never loads
successfully when I need it.

I cannot imagine why anyone would pay money for this system over XP or
even 2000. I don't know how secure it really is, but XP running Spybot
Search and Destroy with Teatimer active and resident, which prevented
registry changes without my specific approval, was as secure a system
as I needed.

A buddy bought an identical unit with Vista and feels exactly the
same way.

Peter

 

[Julian]

What are they?

 

[Retired]

Hi:

Like you, I was upset initially by some of the features of Vista, but
gradually the difficulties were solved and now my system works just fine
under Vista.

So I suggest that you give yourself a little more time before dumping Vista.
Most likely the problems you are facing right now will fade away. If not,
and you decide to dump Vista, either go back to XP or choose one of the many
Linux operating systems. A Mac is a good product too, but are you willing to
dump your existing computer hardware that is PC oriented?

 

[john]

Charles

The OP was ranting not asking

Correct.
from Chapter 1 of the Fanboy Manual:
If you are here to sing the praises of MS & Vista, you're "posting"
But if you dare mention a problem with either, you're "ranting"

 

[Frank]

Correct.
from Chapter 1 of the Fanboy Manual:
If you are here to sing the praises of MS & Vista, you're "posting"
But if you dare mention a problem with either, you're "ranting"

Then why are you ranting. First you need to load Vista. Apparently you
don't have it.
Frank

 

[Adam Albright]

Then why are you ranting. First you need to load Vista. Apparently you
don't have it.
Frank

Poor Frank, his crystal ball is broken, but that don't stop him from
pretending.

 

[Adam Albright]

Correct.
from Chapter 1 of the Fanboy Manual:
If you are here to sing the praises of MS & Vista, you're "posting"
But if you dare mention a problem with either, you're "ranting"

Typical "fanboy" here:


http://rudgwicksteamshowcouk.site.securepod.com/images/village_idiot_2.jpg

 

[Pipboy]

supposed to be another 6 years support for XP

"DP" wrote:

That's XP Pro and I believe it is paid for support. XP Home is only two
more years of support.

 

[Pipboy]

I don't know how secure it really is, but XP running Spybot
Search and Destroy with Teatimer active and resident, which prevented
registry changes without my specific approval, was as secure a system
as I needed.

I use Spybot too but I believe teatimer is buggy so don't use that module.
Better off to disable teatimer and use the free WinPatrol instead to
monitor attemps at system changes.

http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html

 

[Frank]

That's XP Pro and I believe it is paid for support. XP Home is only two
more years of support.

All XP are two more years.
Frank

 

[PMK]

I've never had any problem with Teatimer but am willing to try
something new so I will check it out.

Thanks,

Peter