Anybody using 64-bit Windows?

[John Doe]

Any regular running 64-bit Windows on their main system?
How's it going?

Anybody know of an application that requires 64-bit Windows?

 

[Conor]

Any regular running 64-bit Windows on their main system?
How's it going?

Excellent thanks. Vista BTW - seem to be more drivers than XP64.

Anybody know of an application that requires 64-bit Windows?

It's more to do with RAM. Do a bit of Photoshopping and can quite
quickly get up to a few GB.

 

[Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)]

Any regular running 64-bit Windows on their main system?

How's it going?

Using 64-bit Vi$ta Ultimate. Most 32-bit games are working fine. I could
find 64-bit drivers for nearly all my devices.

Anybody know of an application that requires 64-bit Windows?

7-zip has a 64-bit version.

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[TVeblen]

I am using Vista 64bit.
It's improving all the time as drivers become available and software
becomes compliant over time. At present I have the occassional BSOD with a
tv tuner because the drivers aren't compliant and for some reason the
vendor is being tardy writing for Vista 64.

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What brand of TV tuner?

 

[John Doe]

John Doe wrote:

I am using Vista 64bit.
It's improving all the time as drivers become available and
software becomes compliant over time. At present I have the
occassional BSOD with a tv tuner because the drivers aren't
compliant and for some reason the vendor is being tardy writing
for Vista 64.

It takes down your system?

Also 32-bit programs can run a little slower on the 64-bit
platform.


The latest Adobe Photoshop CS4 includes a version specifically
written for 64-bit OS.
Man it flies. It's so fast it knocked my socks off ;-)
Anyhow, looking forward more programs should be written for 64-bit
OS as the software world slowly catches up with hardware
developments.

Here's some information about Adobe Photoshop and 64-bits,
from the makers. It's good news for professional Photoshop users, but
"64-bit doesn't make applications somehow run twice as fast".

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2008/04/photoshop_lr_64.html

I suspect that 32-bits is big enough for most application
calculations. The operating system memory limit will be the main
reason to switch.

 

[Geek Dad]

Any regular running 64-bit Windows on their main system?
How's it going?

Anybody know of an application that requires 64-bit Windows?

I use 64-bit for my gaming rig so that Vista can see all 4 GB's of
RAM, which seems to help Vista run a little quicker/smoother anyway.
That's all. Don't use it for anything else. Gaming, surfing the net,
email, done.

 

[Ericson Mar]

Any regular running 64-bit Windows on their main system?
How's it going?

Anybody know of an application that requires 64-bit Windows?

Some info on a popular title in 64-bit…

Adobe Photoshop® Extended and Acrobat® Pro natively support 64-bit
editions of Windows Vista. Adobe Premiere® Pro, After Effects®,
Soundbooth®, Encore®, and Adobe OnLocation™ are certified on 64-bit
Windows Vista.
http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/mastercollection/systemreqs/

Adobe CS4 is 64-bit only on Vista. OSX have to wait for CS5 or
something like that when they catch up.
http://www.betanews.com/article/Adobe_CS4_will_be_64bit_but_only_on_Windows/1207258861

To put things in perspective, this is what 64-bit does...

What are the advantages of 64-bit computing?
In early testing of 64-bit support in Photoshop for Windows®, overall
performance gains ranged from 8% to 12%. Those who work with extremely
large files may realize noticeably greater gains in performance, in
some cases as dramatic as ten times the previous speed. This is
because 64-bit applications can address larger amounts of memory and
thus result in less file swapping — one of the biggest factors that
can affect data processing speed.
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/faq/?promoid=DRHXB


If you have the hardware, games perform better on 64-bit Vista.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2302500,00.asp


Windows Vista 64-bit links and factoids

32-bit vs. 64-bit Vista comparison table…
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...tween-32-bit-x86-vs-64-bit-x64-windows-vista/

32-bit means it can only “see” 2^32 (2 to the 32nd power) = 4GB.
The computer has to be able to see the (usable)RAM + VRAM + other
devices on Motherboard, etc.
e.g. If you have 1GB VRAM and “other devices” takes up 0.3GB, you will
only be able to use a max of 2.7GB (4 - 1 - 0.3 = 2.7) RAM.
In this case, if you install 3GB RAM, you waste 0.3GB…if you install
4GB RAM you waste 1.3GB!

This one's a bit technical, but it describes some of the nitty-gritty
of 64-bit technology.
http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/10/16/64-bit_more_than_just_the_ram/1


If this is any indication that 64-bit is the wave of the future and 32-
bit will be “obsolete”…

There appears to be a shift taking place in the PC industry: the move
from 32-bit to 64-bit PCs.
We've been tracking the change by looking at the percentage of 64-bit
PCs connecting to Windows Update, and have seen a dramatic increase in
recent months. The installed base of 64-bit Windows Vista PCs, as a
percentage of all Windows Vista systems, has more than tripled in the
U.S. in the last three months, while worldwide adoption has more than
doubled during the same period. Another view shows that 20% of new
Windows Vista PCs in the U.S. connecting to Windows Update in June
were 64-bit PCs, up from just 3% in March. Put more simply, usage of
64-bit Windows Vista is growing much more rapidly than 32-bit. Based
on current trends, this growth will accelerate as the retail channel
shifts to supplying a rapidly increasing assortment of 64-bit desktops
and laptops… PC Accelerators built into Windows Vista, such as Windows
SuperFetch, improve performance by keeping commonly used programs in
memory, even when the program is closed. More memory capacity on 64-
bit PCs allows SuperFetch to do its job more efficiently.
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/07/30/windows-vista-64-bit-today.aspx

Understanding how SuperFetch uses RAM to enhance system performance…
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=735

Windows Vista - SuperFetch & ReadyBoost
http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/archive/2007/03/29/windows-vista-superfetch-readyboost.aspx

Considering this, SuperFetch is probably the most significant feature
that distinguishes Vista from all other OS's for users of all walks.
Many other features won't be noticeable or even used by the common
person (that is until commercial developers start using WPF/WFC etc.,
and even more DX10). So why not take advantage of it since RAM is so
cheap?

Consider that many workers like to have, say 20 windows open and do
not shut down in order to save time in the morning (even Monday
morning), they can now leave 40 windows (or more) open. Also, the
more RAM they have, the more stuff can be SuperFetched and Auto Disk
Defragmenter and whatever can run more efficiently in the background
when AFK too.

For the above scenario, workers will probably “lock” Vista with the S3
sleep more because they can resume in 5 seconds anyway, or it will
just auto-sleep after a period…translating to a huge savings on energy
consumption.

All these are big bonuses from having a large amount of RAM (which is
dirt cheap these days as well as cheaper going forward). Costs
associated with driver/equipment upgrade for 64-bit compatibility may
be more than made up for in productivity savings by having more RAM.


Some interesting hardcore Vista 64-bit info:
....all 64-bit versions of Microsoft operating systems currently impose
a 16 TB limit on address space and allow no more than 128 GB of
physical memory due to the impracticality of having 16 TB of RAM.
Processes created on Windows Vista x64 Edition are allotted 8 TB in
virtual memory for user processes and 8 TB for kernel processes to
create a virtual memory of 16 TB.
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/5709

 

[Ericson Mar]

Excellent thanks. Vista BTW - seem to be more drivers than XP64.


It's more to do with RAM. Do a bit of Photoshopping and can quite
quickly get up to a few GB.

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XP 64 is not supported as a "consumer OS" so it's pretty much dead
regarding drivers.

Vista 64 is suppoerted as a consumer OS and technically, is the true
upgrade to XP. Vista 32 is just more compatible with older things.