Antivirus software is the new protection racket

[NEWS]

As you have all seen by these posts it is not foolproof either.

There are ways of running computers with no fear of infection.

You can even make your own virus run it and test it without ruining your
computer.

If you want to know more reply to this post asking for more info.

Do you all think people who write these viruses reinstall windows every day
?

If you go to a hotel or an internet cafe and run a virus do you think they
have to mess about fixing their systems constantly?

There are other ways.

My internet pc config
DELL GX1
windows 2000
p2 350
256 mb memory
2 x 20gb hard drives
No antivirus software
No spyware
No problems
Been up and running on the same setup for 2 years and never had a problem.
Still runs as fast as when I installed win 2000

Runs faster than my P4 3000 WITH NORTON AND XP.

Steve

 

[Kerry Brown]

As you have all seen by these posts it is not foolproof either.

There are ways of running computers with no fear of infection.

You can even make your own virus run it and test it without ruining your
computer.

If you want to know more reply to this post asking for more info.

Do you all think people who write these viruses reinstall windows every
day ?

If you go to a hotel or an internet cafe and run a virus do you think they
have to mess about fixing their systems constantly?

There are other ways.

My internet pc config
DELL GX1
windows 2000
p2 350
256 mb memory
2 x 20gb hard drives
No antivirus software
No spyware
No problems
Been up and running on the same setup for 2 years and never had a problem.
Still runs as fast as when I installed win 2000

Runs faster than my P4 3000 WITH NORTON AND XP.

Steve

LOL then why don't you change your P4 over to this method? Not very
consistent with your message. The only way I know of doing this is using a
kiosk type system that erases everything and restores to a default setup on
reboot. Not very useful for the average user. How much will your advice cost
me?

Kerry

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Good for you.. now take your advert someplace else where advertising is
allowed..

One of my computers has roughly the same spec as your 'magic' machine.. it
has worked perfectly for over two years, all with NO help from you or your
mystery method that you do not choose to freely distribute..

 

[NEWS]

My advice costs nothing even tec support is possible for instalation again
no cost.
If you are in the trade and are likely to buy more I may even send you a
free sample.

The product I use/sell is £10 ish less to resellers NO UPDATE COSTS AS NONE
ARE REQUIRED

For this you get hardware, software and support.

My free advice is simple try one.

Reason for P4 AND P2 SETUP I sell this item to the computer trade
worldwide.

My job partly is to demonstrate the product.

Demo unit has been in use for 2 years
P4 unit is my newest comparasion model hope this helps.
You can also buy from www.selu.co.uk

I save files to a pen drive even viruses in my case as I run them to prove
the point (Offline so as not to cause problems to other internet users).
Virus are programs they cannot run unless you or a script tells them too.


Steve

 

[NEWS]

Who freely distributes flawless antivirus software if its you send me some.
What else do you give away other than your useless opinions.

 

[kurt wismer]

As you have all seen by these posts it is not foolproof either.

There are ways of running computers with no fear of infection.

snake-oil... there is no panacea, no perfect protection...

You can even make your own virus run it and test it without ruining your
computer.

If you want to know more reply to this post asking for more info.

Do you all think people who write these viruses reinstall windows every day
?

do you really think that's the only way to deal with a virus infection?

If you go to a hotel or an internet cafe and run a virus do you think they
have to mess about fixing their systems constantly?

no, they probably have drive images that they can simply restore from...

 

[Buffalo]

As> My internet pc config
DELL GX1
windows 2000
p2 350
256 mb memory
2 x 20gb hard drives
No antivirus software
No spyware
No problems
Been up and running on the same setup for 2 years and never had a problem.
Still runs as fast as when I installed win 2000

Runs faster than my P4 3000 WITH NORTON AND XP.

Steve

Well, if your P2-350 runs faster than your P4-3000, then if you apply your
'secrets' to your P4, it should just about be the fastest PC in the whole,wide
world.

 

[nos1eep]

Well, if your P2-350 runs faster than your P4-3000, then if you apply your
'secrets' to your P4, it should just about be the fastest PC in the
whole,wide
world.

Installing Norton is one way to make a P4 run like a P2.

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Ahhh...the smell of SPAM in the morning!

Another scumbag selling an add-in mirror card that doe not offer you any
protection. This idiot thinks it is okay to let your computer get infected
while online, because (in theory) the computer will be wiped and them booted
from a clean image on the card. What the SPAMMER does not tell you is that
while you are using your infected computer (and it will be infected if you
boot with no antivirus as this idiot suggests), your computer will be
infecting everyone in your address book, and will also find other
unprotected computers to infect. Your computer becomes a vector. Not to
mention the other nasties that can turn your computer into a zombie or
spambot.

I just want everyone to know that what this idiot is selling is not worth
anything at all. Not even the paltry amount he claims to sell it for.

Do not pay any attention to this scumbag. The device he sells is worthless.
It does not protect your computer against viruses, malware, adware etc.

Bobby

 

[Guest]

You can also buy from www.selu.co.uk

There's the tip off: selu.co.uk. This spammer is selling the PC Reset
Card. Yet he wants to hide what this fantastic magical product is that
he sells. Snake oil salesman never tell you what is in the bottle.

Yeah, perhaps a usable product if you want back exactly what you had
before - which means you also lose your documents and configuration
settings for your programs (if you forget to wipe the change-log on
bootup using the non-default and hidden menu).

This is the same BlueYonder spammer that posted in alt.comp.anti-virus
(or
http://tinyurl.com/csogw for the Google Groups copy) and several other
groups, and multiposts to disguise his multiple postings and disconnect
any replies that would be available with cross-posting. Rather than use
the AV racket, you get to use *his* hardware racket.

NOTE: Since I am using Microsoft's NNTP server to reply, the
non-Microsoft groups will not be included in my reply. The original
Newgroups header had "alt.comp.anti-virus, alt.comp.os.windows-xp,
alt.comp.virus, microsoft.public.security.virus,
microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware". Yep, the spammer is shotgunning
all over the place.

Spam abuse has been reported.

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Installing Norton is one way to make a P4 run like a P2.

Correction;

Installing Norton will not slow down a properly configured maintained
computer.

( I have a network of over 200 computers of various makes, models and
vintage. Norton is on all of them. None of them are slowed down by
Norton...but then again I know how to maintain a healthy system).

Bobby


Bobby

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

My 'useless' opinions help people here for free.. I have no product that I
am trying to peddle.. unlike you, of course.. you are a cheap troll of the
worst kind.. you talk like stuff is for free, and then you spring the
charge.. and you have to do it privately.. lol.. do you add anybody who
replies to a mailing list that they can't opt out of because the mail box is
always left full to capacity, and the 'get out' mail is bounced back?..

You will get no respect from me, not that you care, eh.. you will lose
respect from many more too, but shysters like you work on the principle that
if you can catch 'three in every hundred', then that is a good day's
hunting.. you don't care what impact you have other than on a person's
wallet..

Like I said, take it someplace else.. improve you marketing skills and do a
proper job with your product..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

 

[Guest]

Who freely distributes flawless antivirus software if its you send me
some.
What else do you give away other than your useless opinions.

Yep, for sure NEWS is a spammer. Nowhere in Mike's reply did he say he
was using "flawless antivirus software". But NEWS wants to divert from
his statements and cloud the issue with deliberately inaccurate
quotation.

Ledsystems probably would like this spammer to go away as all it effects
is a negative publicity campaign against them.

 

[Phil Weldon]

What about negative publicity from the 'snake oil' product?

Phil Weldon

 

[Fitz]

Amen!

My 'useless' opinions help people here for free.. I have no product that I
am trying to peddle.. unlike you, of course.. you are a cheap troll of the
worst kind.. you talk like stuff is for free, and then you spring the
charge.. and you have to do it privately.. lol.. do you add anybody who
replies to a mailing list that they can't opt out of because the mail box
is always left full to capacity, and the 'get out' mail is bounced back?..

You will get no respect from me, not that you care, eh.. you will lose
respect from many more too, but shysters like you work on the principle
that if you can catch 'three in every hundred', then that is a good day's
hunting.. you don't care what impact you have other than on a person's
wallet..

Like I said, take it someplace else.. improve you marketing skills and do
a proper job with your product..

 

[idbeholda]

Correction;

Installing Norton will not slow down a properly configured maintained

computer.

( I have a network of over 200 computers of various makes, models and

vintage. Norton is on all of them. None of them are slowed down by
Norton...but then again I know how to maintain a healthy system).

Bobby


Bobby

What's disturbing, is that there are people who don't
under-****ing-stand that. As long as you make sure your system is
clean on a regular basis, and properly maintain it, you can run just
about anything.

 

[TJ]

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NoNoBadDog! wrote:



What's disturbing, is that there are people who don't
under-****ing-stand that. As long as you make sure your system is
clean on a regular basis, and properly maintain it, you can run just
about anything.

What's even more disturbing, are people who post to Usenet thru the Google
Interface which updates what? Once or twice a day? Oh, and those that
think Norton *.* is anything more than what it's become.

Norton was a fine utility, once-upon-a-time. These days (IMO) it's
"devolved" into just another in a long line of poorly written, invasive,
bloatware that's nearly impossible to completely rid onself of if you decide
you don't care for it.

Kinda like AOL. (Except for the fact that AOL was *NEVER* a fine utility.)

 

[Frode]

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from a clean image on the card. What the SPAMMER does not tell you is
that while you are using your infected computer (and it will be infected
if you boot with no antivirus as this idiot suggests),

That is over dramatizing rather a lot.

Anti virus is the *final* line of defense. On a properly maintained system,
operated by an educated user, the risk of virus infection is the extreme
exception rather than the rule.

That doesn't mean I'd advice against using anti virus products (especially
considering there are pretty decent free offerings available). But "it will
be infected if you boot with no antivirus", with no mention of this pretty
much only being true if the box in question is a fresh install with a
direct internet connection or a run-everything-I-see type user at the
keyboard, is a bit over the top imo.

I just want everyone to know that what this idiot is selling is not worth
anything at all. Not even the paltry amount he claims to sell it for.

No argument there. Unfortunately, the fact he keeps on spamming seems to
indicate some people do buy



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[idbeholda]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:



What's even more disturbing, are people who post to Usenet thru the Google
Interface which updates what? Once or twice a day? Oh, and those that
think Norton *.* is anything more than what it's become.

Norton was a fine utility, once-upon-a-time. These days (IMO) it's
"devolved" into just another in a long line of poorly written, invasive,
bloatware that's nearly impossible to completely rid onself of if you decide
you don't care for it.

Kinda like AOL. (Except for the fact that AOL was *NEVER* a fine utility.)

--
"The ****-Up fairy doesn't just randomly visit people."

{Wheat Muncher tells it like it is in Message-ID:
<[email protected]>}

That's why I recommend using F-Prot. That... and I'm finding more and
more that Avast is un-****ing-godly.

 

[TJ]

That's why I recommend using F-Prot. That... and I'm finding more and
more that Avast is un-****ing-godly.

Avast! is not only free, it's non-invasive, and easy to get rid of if you
don't like it. (Try doing THAT, with anything Norton.) Also? I find
Avast updates regularly and is just as effective as anything Symantec has
released in the past five years.

YMMV of course.