Ken thank you for your input
I have the aliant service because I get my internet service from Aliant . I
am a retired Aliant employee , I get a 40% discount on services, What I have
started out as Freedom Security and then they changed to Aliant security
service and was recommended by Aliant .
The bottom line is I knew no better . I am learning from folks on this group
.. I am seriously considering changing
--
Fran
| On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:20:32 -0300, "Ray &Fran"
|
| > I would never cancel the antivirus protection . I will keep the Aliant
anti
| > virus for $4.95 a month .
|
|
|
| Why? It's certainly not an anti-virus product with a reputation of
| being one of the better ones out there.
|
| If you want to spend money on an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32
| at
http://www.eset.com/ It's a better product and the same price at
| $59.95 a year
|
|
| > I was only questioning you about your thoughts on the anti spyware
| > application for an additional 4.95
|
|
| I would personally not choose anything from Aliant. There are lots
| better freeware anti-spyware products, like Spybot Search and Destroy,
| Adaware, Spyware Blaster, and Super AntiSpyware.
|
|
| > I do understand they are 2 separate programs with 2 different functions
| > --
| > Fran
| >
| >
| > | > | Don't cancel it, unless you replace to with another Antivirus
application
| > | You still don't seem to understand; the two types of infections need
| > | different applications to protect / detect them
| > | ie both an Antivirus appliction together with Spyware/malaware
detection
| > | applications
| > |
| > | | > | > do realize that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are different types
| > | > of infections.
| > | > I will download your suggestions. This is an item I am paying for
should
| > I
| > | > cancel this and save some money or is it useful and keep it
| > | >
| > | >
| >
http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...t_id=16215&curbody=59§ion=59&subsection=7
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Fran
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | You need to understand that Virus and Malaware/Trojans are
different
| > | > types
| > | > | of infections.
| > | > | AntiVirus applications generally do not have a good record of
| > detecting
| > | > this
| > | > | type of spyware, though they may deal effectively with viruses.
| > | > | Your anti virus definitions are being updated, that is the notices
you
| > | > | receive.
| > | > |
| > | > | Your PC is infected with malaware, for this you need separate
| > | > applications,
| > | > | the ones below are all free
| > | > | MS Defender is free and has real time scanning, ie it runs in the
| > | > background
| > | > | like your AV app.
| > | > |
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
| > | > | SpyBot is free - you have to explicitly run it to scan your PC
| > | > |
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
| > | > | Adaware have a free version - once again you have to manually scan
| > | > |
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
| > | > |
| > | > | You should download update & run all three
| > | > | NB None of the above are a replacement for an anti virus
application,
| > eg
| > | > as
| > | > | supplied by Aliant
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Thanks DL for your Input.
| > | > | > I do know what the virus scanner does and I have it set as you
| > | > suggested
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I also know that the popup blocker,form filler and privacy
manager
| > are
| > | > | > just
| > | > | > little extras they provide and all are working on my PC since I
| > have
| > | > them
| > | > | > turned ON
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I would like to know why you say I do not have spyware/malware
| > | > protection
| > | > | > by Aliant ? I pay the monthly charge for the product . It is
turned
| > | > on
| > | > in
| > | > | > MY services . I receive notices of anti spyware updates during
the
| > day
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > I have my PC set for scheduled spyware scans . If Aliant does
not
| > have
| > | > | > this
| > | > | > software then I am paying monthly for a service I am not getting
..
| > | > Just
| > | > | > curious .
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I will download the freeware just to be safe
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Fran
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Let me spell it out, you have Anti Virus software supplied by
| > Aliant
| > | > you
| > | > | > | DONT have spyware / malaware protection software.
| > | > | > | The two are different, requiring different products to scan /
| > | > protect
| > | > /
| > | > | > | remove
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | What is immaterial is the pop-up blocker,Form Filler & Privacy
| > | > Manager
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | a.. Powerful **virus scanner** scans all files, applications,
| > | > diskettes
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | CD-ROM's on your computer
| > | > | > | a.. "Always-on" protection that works in the background
| > | > automatically
| > | > | > | **scanning for viruses**
| > | > | > | a.. Automatically updates with the latest virus information
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > The anti spyware application should not be immaterial since
you
| > | > need
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > pay
| > | > | > | > additional for the coverage
| > | > | > | > All are billed separately see info at link
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
http://productsandservice.aliant.ne...sandservices/security_services.jsp&curbody=59
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Fran
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | According to Aliant its an anti virus application, not
| > spyware,
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > other
| > | > | > | > | included items are immaterial.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | As previously stated your PC is infected with malaware /
| > trojans
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > So even though Aliant tells me I have anti spyware
| > protection
| > | > I
| > | > do
| > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Fran
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
| > | > | > | > | > On Jun 3, 11:18 am, "Ray &Fran"
<
[email protected]>
| > | > wrote:
| > | > | > | > | >> No the anti virus ,Anti spyware ,Fraud protection ,
Privacy
| > | > | > manager
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | >> Pop
| > | > | > | > | >> up blocker is installed on my Pc . It updates regularly
and
| > | > scans
| > | > | > | > both
| > | > | > | > pc
| > | > | > | > | >> and e-mail The whole pkg . I am in Nova Scotia with
Aliant
| > | > and
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > whole
| > | > | > | > | >> thing is called Aliant security service . I thought I
was
| > | > covered
| > | > | > | > | >>
| > | > | > | > | >> --
| > | > | > | > | >> Fran
| > | > | > | > | >>
| > | > | > | > | >>
| > | > | > | > | >> | > | > | > | > | >> | Your PC is infected with spyware / malaware, which is
not
| > | > the
| > | > | > same
| > | > | > | > or
| > | > | > | > | >> | detected by anti virus apps.
| > | > | > | > | >> | You say you have AV from your ISP, but is this
installed
| > on
| > | > | > your
| > | > | > PC
| > | > | > | > or
| > | > | > | > | >> is
| > | > | > | > | >> it
| > | > | > | > | >> | only AV on your mail?
| > | > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | > | >> | Download update & run all of these;
| > | > | > | > | >> | MS Defender (from MS)
| > | > | > | > | >> | SpyBot
|> | > | > | > | >> | Adaware
| > | > | > | > | >> | All are free
| > | > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | > | >> |
message
| > | > | > | > | >> || > | > | > | > | >> | > Hi folks .
| > | > | > | > | >> | > I have a question for all you experts . I have
windows
| > XP
| > | > | > home
| > | > | > | > | >> edition
| > | > | > | > | >> SP2
| > | > | > | > | >> | > . I try to keep it updated with all necessary
updates
| > and
| > | > I
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > | > Anti
| > | > | > | > | >> | > Virus
| > | > | > | > | >> | > protection From My ISP . Lately I have found while
| > | > surfing
| > | > | > some
| > | > | > | > web
| > | > | > | > | >> sites
| > | > | > | > | >> | > I
| > | > | > | > | >> | > will get a pop up that looks like an EXE program
and
| > says
| > | > my
| > | > | > | > computer
| > | > | > | > | >> may
| > | > | > | > | >> | > be
| > | > | > | > | >> | > infected with a virus . The latest one today looked
| > like
| > | > a
| > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | >> | > warning
| > | > | > | > | >> | > with the little colored security logo on the top
and it
| > | > | > started
| > | > | > | > | >> scanning
| > | > | > | > | >> | > .It said it found a Trojan If I try to cancel
,close or
| > | > exit
| > | > | > it
| > | > | > | > does
| > | > | > | > | >> not
| > | > | > | > | >> | > seem to want to cancel or close . I need to do
| > | > CTRL,Alt,DEl
| > | > | > end
| > | > | > | > task
| > | > | > | > | >> to
| > | > | > | > | >> | > get
| > | > | > | > | >> | > it to stop and end . How would I know if it were
really
| > | > from
| > | > | > | > | >> Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | >> ???
| > | > | > | > | >> | > I
| > | > | > | > | >> | > usually do a virus scan to see If I have any
viruses
| > but
| > | > It
| > | > | > says
| > | > | > | > | >> nothing
| > | > | > | > | >> | > found
| > | > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | > | >> | > --
| > | > | > | > | >> | > Fran
| > | > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | > | >> | >
| > | > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | > | >> |
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > These so-called "service" anti-virus security softwares
are
| > in
| > | > my
| > | > | > | > | > opinion bogus! The is no software that can protect you
| > 100%.
| > | > You
| > | > | > | > | > still should install and run the mentioned spyware
removal
| > | > tools
| > | > | > since
| > | > | > | > | > spywares/malwars are not in the same category as viruses
and
| > | > those
| > | > | > | > | > security system may not protect you from these.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Better safe than sorry!
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