Anti Trojan Software For Home Network

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* * Chas

I'm looking for an Anti Trojan program that I can use to occasionally
check my networked PCs. I've looked at a number of different programs
and tried a few crippled demos.

I practice safe hex and I don't think that I'm at a big risk for trojans
but I want to make sure.

Most anti trojan software that I've seen sells for around $40 - $50 USD.
I don't mind paying for 1 copy but.....

I wouldn't mind installing and uninstalling for occasional scans but it
would be nice to have a license for more than 1 PC like F-Prot AV or to
be able to check PCs across a network.

Any suggestions?

Chas.
 
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What's in a Name?

I'm looking for an Anti Trojan program that I can use to
occasionally check my networked PCs. I've looked at a number of
different programs and tried a few crippled demos.

I practice safe hex and I don't think that I'm at a big risk for
trojans but I want to make sure.

Most anti trojan software that I've seen sells for around $40 -
$50 USD. I don't mind paying for 1 copy but.....

I wouldn't mind installing and uninstalling for occasional scans
but it would be nice to have a license for more than 1 PC like
F-Prot AV or to be able to check PCs across a network.

Any suggestions?

Chas.

A^2 is free for home use.
I am trying out Prevx, an Intrusion Prevention program,seems to work
well(they have a free home version).
 
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Pastor Dave

I'm looking for an Anti Trojan program that I can use to occasionally
check my networked PCs. I've looked at a number of different programs
and tried a few crippled demos.

I practice safe hex and I don't think that I'm at a big risk for trojans
but I want to make sure.

Most anti trojan software that I've seen sells for around $40 - $50 USD.
I don't mind paying for 1 copy but.....

I wouldn't mind installing and uninstalling for occasional scans but it
would be nice to have a license for more than 1 PC like F-Prot AV or to
be able to check PCs across a network.

Any suggestions?

AVG has a free antivirus package.
For pay packages, they have a Pro version.

Trend Micro's PC-cillin is also very good.

--

Pastor Dave

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel,
and reject what you like - it is not the Gospel
you believe, but yourselves." - St. Augustine

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

AVG has a free antivirus package. For pay packages, they have a Pro
version.

Trend Micro's PC-cillin is also very good.

anti-virus != anti-trojan

Chas, try A² from Emisoft. It is an anti-trojan program, and free for
home use.
http://www.emsisoft.com/en/
Scroll down to "a-squared Free"
 
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Pastor Dave

anti-virus != anti-trojan

I didn't say it did. But the packages I mentioned,
do address them. Of course, it is not the only
solution, but definitely one that should be done,
for more than just that reason.

Btw, which AV prog do you use and why?

--

Pastor Dave

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel,
and reject what you like - it is not the Gospel
you believe, but yourselves." - St. Augustine

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Pastor said:
I didn't say it did. But the packages I mentioned, do address
them. Of course, it is not the only solution, but definitely one
that should be done, for more than just that reason.

Generally speaking, most people should have both types of programs.
Btw, which AV prog do you use and why?

Me? I have Avast! installed, but only use to scan on demand, such as
when someone sends an attachment. I rarely get a real virus email.

If you next question is, what else? Current versions of Ad-Aware,
SpybotS&D, and A², all of which I run infrequently because they never
find anything.
 
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Virus Guy

I'm looking for an Anti Trojan program

A program that gets basically no discussion in these groups is
MooSoft's "The Cleaner".

It can be used as an on-demand or scheduled file scanner as well as a
real-time process and registry monitor.

Have a look here for details:

http://www.moosoft.com/products/cleaner/

When I occasionally mount our server's drives as slaves to be scanned
on a trusted computer, I perform a Norton scan followed by a scan with
TC. Between those two, I'm reasonably sure that the drives being
scanned contain no mal-ware.
 
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Pastor Dave

Generally speaking, most people should have both types of programs.

Oh, but why? :)

I agree, 100%.

Me? I have Avast! installed, but only use to scan on demand, such as
when someone sends an attachment. I rarely get a real virus email.

You have no real time virus scanner running?

If it's a question of cost, AVG has a free version
and it's quite good.

If you next question is, what else? Current versions of Ad-Aware,
SpybotS&D, and A², all of which I run infrequently because they never
find anything.

No, no, I said "AV". "AntiVirus".

Sorry, I should have been more specific.

--

Pastor Dave

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel,
and reject what you like - it is not the Gospel
you believe, but yourselves." - St. Augustine

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
 
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Pastor Dave

A program that gets basically no discussion in these groups is
MooSoft's "The Cleaner".

It can be used as an on-demand or scheduled file scanner as well as a
real-time process and registry monitor.

Is TC a virus scanner? Or antispyware?
Or both? And does it make good coffee? :)

--

Pastor Dave

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel,
and reject what you like - it is not the Gospel
you believe, but yourselves." - St. Augustine

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
 
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Virus Guy

Pastor said:
Is TC a virus scanner? Or antispyware?
Or both?

What is The Cleaner?
The Cleaner is a program designed to detect and remove Trojan Horses /
Worms / Spyware / Adware and any other kind of malware.

What is TCActive?
TCActive! is an active memory scanner which can stop a trojan from
loading before it does any harm. It monitors live processes for
Trojans/Worms and other malicious programs and kills them before they
do damage.

What is TCMonitor?
TCMonitor watches specified registry keys, files and folders for any
changes. If a change is detected, an alert is sounded. It keeps track
of registry keys, files and folders and alerts you to any changes.

See also:

http://www.moosoft.com/products/cleaner/compare/
And does it make good coffee? :)

heh. Good coffee is in the bean. It's all in the bean.
 
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kurt wismer

Virus Guy wrote:
[snip]
A program that gets basically no discussion in these groups is
MooSoft's "The Cleaner".

it used to get more attention in the past... i didn't follow things that
closely though so i don't know why that changed...
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Pastor said:
Oh, but why? :)

Silly question...
I agree, 100%.

...then you know the answer, right? :)
You have no real time virus scanner running?

No. If there are no viruses on the computer, why waste cycles?
If it's a question of cost, AVG has a free version and it's quite
good.

Avast! also has a free version. What I like most about Avast! (yeah,
the exclamation point is part of the name, if any newbies were
wondering) is the *small* updates to the database. They are typically
between 2KB and maybe 15KB. Yes, kilobytes, not megabytes. It looks
for updates every four hours.

It has recognized every virus I've ever thrown its way.

It's also skinnable. Pick from dozens of designs.
No, no, I said "AV". "AntiVirus".

Sorry, I should have been more specific.

Yes, but I was anticipating... as the OP was interested in AT.
 
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* * Chas

| On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:16:09 GMT, "Beauregard T.
| Shagnasty" <[email protected]> spake thusly:
|
| >Pastor Dave wrote:
| >> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 21:31:32 -0700, "* * Chas"
| >> <[email protected]> spake thusly:
| >>
| >>> I'm looking for an Anti Trojan program ...
<snip>
| I didn't say it did. But the packages I mentioned,
| do address them. Of course, it is not the only
| solution, but definitely one that should be done,
| for more than just that reason.
|
| Btw, which AV prog do you use and why?

I use NOD32 backed up with F-Prot Windows for on demand scans. Over the
past 10 years, I've tried or used at least 20 different AV programs. Up
until I found NOD32 I liked Dr. Solomons the best. They both use very
few resources, are easy to update and work very well.

I also run AdAware and Spybot. I'm looking for Anti Trojan software.

Chas.
 
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Art

Virus Guy wrote:
[snip]
A program that gets basically no discussion in these groups is
MooSoft's "The Cleaner".

it used to get more attention in the past... i didn't follow things that
closely though so i don't know why that changed...

Heh. Reminds me of this old test:

http://www.claymania.com/tests-trojan.html

Which showed that the better av scan engines such as KAV and McAfee
(AVK uses the KAV engine) were far superior to Trojan speciic scanners
in detecting Trojans. In fact, The Cleaner was crap. Be interesting to
see a more recent comparison.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
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Postman Delivers

Virus Guy wrote:
[snip]
A program that gets basically no discussion in these groups is
MooSoft's "The Cleaner".

it used to get more attention in the past... i didn't follow things that
closely though so i don't know why that changed...

Heh. Reminds me of this old test:

http://www.claymania.com/tests-trojan.html

Which showed that the better av scan engines such as KAV and McAfee
(AVK uses the KAV engine) were far superior to Trojan speciic scanners
in detecting Trojans. In fact, The Cleaner was crap. Be interesting to
see a more recent comparison.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg[/QUOTE]

Kurt,

I have not used this site for a while, but I found "the cleaner" to be
a decent program several years ago. I followed this website with
interest after attending a panel discussion on Anti-Viral software at
the Las Vegas Comdex in 2000. When most well known AV products, did
not do a reasonable job in detecting or cleaning Trojans.

http://www.anti-trojan-software-reviews.com/

JR the postman
 
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Pastor Dave

No. If there are no viruses on the computer, why waste cycles?

See below.

Avast! also has a free version.

It has recognized every virus I've ever thrown its way.

Then you have viruses getting on your system, no?
So a real time scanner would have probably prevented
that from happening.

--

Pastor Dave

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel,
and reject what you like - it is not the Gospel
you believe, but yourselves." - St. Augustine

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Pastor said:
See below.


Then you have viruses getting on your system, no?

No.

Assuming you meant my computer became infected, the answer is No.
Occasionally, someone I know gets infected and it tries to replicate
by sending to all the addresses it can find. We all know this is one
way they propagate.

These emails are easily recognizable. To see which virus it is, I will
save the attachment to my "/suspect" folder, and scan it. Generally, I
will attempt to examine the email to see if I can pin down where it
came from, so as to warn the infector s/he has a problem.
So a real time scanner would have probably prevented that from
happening.

In over 20 years of home computer usage, I have never been infected
with any virus or trojan or other type of malware.
 
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Art

I have not used this site for a while, but I found "the cleaner" to be
a decent program several years ago. I followed this website with
interest after attending a panel discussion on Anti-Viral software at
the Las Vegas Comdex in 2000. When most well known AV products, did
not do a reasonable job in detecting or cleaning Trojans.

http://www.anti-trojan-software-reviews.com/

I recall a test at av-test.org where over 6,000 Trojans were used for
testing av products. A large number (nine or eleven, I don't recall)
of av products alerted on at least 99% of the samples. Cleaning is
another matter.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
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Pastor Dave

No.

Assuming you meant my computer became infected, the answer is No.
Occasionally, someone I know gets infected and it tries to replicate
by sending to all the addresses it can find. We all know this is one
way they propagate.

I see.

In over 20 years of home computer usage, I have never been infected
with any virus or trojan or other type of malware.

That's quite a claim and with all due respect,
one that I don't buy. Maybe not that you know
of, but to say "never", I don't think anyone can
say, at least not someone who doesn't run real
time protection.

I just cleaned up one, after installing a new virus
scanner the other day, that none of the others
picked up on. And I don't go to suspect web sites,
nor do I download attachments via email.

--

Pastor Dave

"If you believe what you like in the Gospel,
and reject what you like - it is not the Gospel
you believe, but yourselves." - St. Augustine

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
 

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