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Does anyone have a suggestion for a freeware spam filter for Outlook
express?

Thanks
Brian
 
Does anyone have a suggestion for a freeware spam filter for Outlook
express?
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I tried a lot of these filters etc over a period of years, but always
came back to deleting them off the ISP server.
Others will be able to let you know their favorites, but I use an
email client that allows me to delete spam off the server.

If you want to try a really good free email client & Spam
remover, this is very good. Version 3.5 is free.

I can look at my mail on the ISP's server, delete ( spam removal ),
reply, click on links & if I want it on my comp, click on Move
to > Archive.
Use right click for some of the functions.

You can still leave any other email client installed. Just a matter
of choosing which one you want as default.

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http://geminisoft.com/geminisoft.eng/
http://geminisoft.com/geminisoft.eng/homepage.asp
http://www.geminisoft.com/en/pimmy/default.aspx?idversion=03.05.00
http://www.geminisoft.com/download/pimmy350-english.zip
http://geminisoft.com/pimmy.eng/frameset.htm
http://geminisoft.com/pimmy.eng/caratteristiche.htm
Pimmy - Your personal postman.

Geminisoft Pimmy lets you manage your electronic mail easily and
everywhere you are. The full
program may be put on a floppy!
What you can do using Pimmy:

* manage an unlimited number of mailboxes;
* read and write messages on newsgroups;
* check for new messages and be warned about them;
* store messages in folders;
* group messages by thread in a new tree view;
* automatically download mail and newsgroup messages from the
mailboxes you desire to one or more folders;
* use filters to decide what messages to download and where;
* read on-line only the message in which you are interested in, not
downloading all and leaving mail on the server until you decide to
delete them;
* read a preview of first 200 lines of a message on-line without
reading it completely or dowloading it;
* delete a message on-line without reading it completely or
dowloading it;
* write your messages off-line and send them when connected to
Internet, moving all sent messages in a special folder;
* send messages using different providers easily;
* manage an address book;
* manage different senders and signatures (even with only one
mailbox);
attach files and documents;
* listen to audio files and watch videos using the built-in mini
player.

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I tried a lot of these filters etc over a period of years, but always
came back to deleting them off the ISP server.
Others will be able to let you know their favorites, but I use an
email client that allows me to delete spam off the server.

If you want to try a really good free email client & Spam
remover, this is very good. Version 3.5 is free.

I can look at my mail on the ISP's server, delete ( spam removal ),
reply, click on links & if I want it on my comp, click on Move
to > Archive.
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I couldn't agree more with the philosophy and the experience, but I use
Mailwasher; free versions are available from pricelessware and elsewhere.

It looks at the headers on the server and lets you mark them for deletion
- with a couple of simple rules it will premark 95% of them, but you
still have to eyeball them. But if you use an ISPs spamguard you can lose
emails without knowing about it, if you have one of these clunky "smart"
filters it has to fetch mail before it can scan it, and you STILL have to
check it as they all make mistakes.

I don't use my ISP spambucket, I get around 100 junk emails a day, and
maybe one genuine one a month <sigh><g>, and mailwasher deals with it in
jig time. I've tried lots of others and never found one to touch it.

And of course it's the *only* thing M/W does - I like progs that know
just what their job is and do it very well.

PS, as I'm looking for a "really good free email client" I'll give
pimmy a go; OE has crashed and burned twice on compacting mailboxes -
DON'T DO THAT!! and I've found Tbird unreliable and crashy with scant
sympathy or help from it's devotees
 
SpamPal: sets up as transparent mail proxy and works with any e-mail client,
supports both DNSBL and Bayesian filtering, as well as few others (through
plugins), about as good as it gets at automatic spam removal.
 
Does anyone have a suggestion for a freeware spam filter for Outlook
express?

Thanks
Brian
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The simplest one I have used yet (and it is good, too!) is K9.
http://keir.net/k9.html


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Thanks to all that replyed, I'll check these out.

Brian
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A better solution might be to try Thunderbird mail program, based on the
mail module of Mozilla or try the Mozilla suite. They have built-in
spam filters and in other ways are superio IMO to Outlook Express.
Thunderbird a year ago was a bit rough and I stayed with the Mozilla
suite for mail until recently. But Thunderbird 1.02 seems quite
polished. You are also exposed to less malware and security exploits
with these programs than with Outlook Express.



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el said:
Does anyone have a suggestion for a freeware spam filter for Outlook
express?

Thanks
Brian
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Yahoo email has an excellent spam filtering system. You may want to
open an account with Yahoo (Free) and forward your email from your
ISP to your Yahoo account and then download it to OE from their, spam
and virus free. Good Luck with what ever you come up with.
 
G'day Mike, wondering how you went with Pimmy, have all the
screenshots available for the setting up part.
Been using it about 3 years now, never had a problem & find it perfect.

Most people who try, don't set it up properly & if you want a hand, let
me know & I can send you the screenshots.

Regards, John in Western Australia.
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote in @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
G'day Mike, wondering how you went with Pimmy, have all the
screenshots available for the setting up part.
Been using it about 3 years now, never had a problem & find it perfect.

Most people who try, don't set it up properly & if you want a hand, let
me know & I can send you the screenshots.
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I did try it, but the first problem is it's a multipurpose prog, and I
don't like that.

I've got a favourite newsreader (xnews) which I don't think can be beat,
though I do try others from time to time.

A favourite spamguard, mailwasher, which although I love dearly I would
be prepared to ditch for one within an integrated email prog, but I don't
want a newsreader.

I did think about it as an email prog, but found it awkward, and I wasn't
sure about backing up and accessing accessing the emails through a text
prog, which after my email disasters, is a prime requirement.

I find the text on the windows too small for my old eyes, and the options
for changing theem are greyed out.

It does store mails in an accessible form, but the titles "n".eml are not
all that helpful, though TBH if I'm trying to open emails not in their
native app I'm already in deep trouble and trynig to salvage something
from the crash (DAMHIK)

My real problem is that I want something like Outlook express, but which
does not crash and burn from time to time, and I can get at the database
format, or Thunderbird, which also crashes and burns, but the T/bird
community deny all knowledge. again DAMHIK.

But both have just the functionality that I want......

And now Eudora, which works, but I don't much like the format, is telling
me they're downgrading me to lite every time I open it. I'm already on
bloody lite. Bloody nerve, you'ld think I was paying for it.


P'raps I could use a hand, but does it have simple rules, I've just
ditched this mornings 80 spams with mailwasher, and it was a doddle, I'd
need pimmy to match that.

Ive looked at the filter section, maybe I could handle it, In M/W to get
rid of far eastern stuff I just included a load of their gibberish to
reject and it works well.

I'm also very confused about what's what, what I'm looking at on the
server and what's downloaded, with mailwasher there's no confusion, run
it, open mail prog, fetch mail.

I can just about cope with that

mike
 
mike ring <[email protected]> ha scritto:

[Pimmy 3.5]
I did try it, but the first problem is it's a multipurpose prog, and I
don't like that.
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You can simply do not use newsreader features.
I did think about it as an email prog, but found it awkward, and I wasn't
sure about backing up and accessing accessing the emails through a text
prog, which after my email disasters, is a prime requirement.
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Pimmy stores email as text file, one file for one email, so it is quite
impossibile to lose email archive.
I find the text on the windows too small for my old eyes, and the options
for changing theem are greyed out.
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Tools / Options / Fonts and colors, for changing font of preview window and
window message. Press F1 for help.
It does store mails in an accessible form, but the titles "n".eml are not
all that helpful, though TBH if I'm trying to open emails not in their
native app I'm already in deep trouble and trynig to salvage something
from the crash (DAMHIK)
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If needed you can drag & drop all .eml file from Pimmy.Folders disk folder
to Outlook Express folder. Then if you drag & drop from OE to disk folder
you will have .eml files named with email subjects.
My real problem is that I want something like Outlook express, but which
does not crash and burn from time to time, and I can get at the database
format, or Thunderbird, which also crashes and burns, but the T/bird
community deny all knowledge. again DAMHIK.
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I Think Pimmy is good for you. Emails are accessible in easy manner.
But both have just the functionality that I want......
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Yes, Pimmy 3.5 has surely less functionality but Pimmy is more powerful in
online mode.
Ive looked at the filter section, maybe I could handle it, In M/W to get
rid of far eastern stuff I just included a load of their gibberish to
reject and it works well.
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Pimmy filtering section is powerful, perhaps too much complicated.
I'm also very confused about what's what, what I'm looking at on the
server and what's downloaded, with mailwasher there's no confusion, run
it, open mail prog, fetch mail.
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When you open the mailbox (red icon) you are in online mode and you are
looking emails directly on the server. If you don't want to download emails
into Pimmy folders simply go to mailbox properties and change behaviour.

Note: all info I provided is about Pimmy 3.5, free version. Pimmy 4.0 (not
free and then banned here, now in beta for free) has much more funcionality
for mail/news/rss reading, but Pimmy 3.5 is good for mail checking or anti
spam.
 
I did think about it as an email prog, but found it awkward, and I
wasn't
sure about backing up and accessing accessing the emails through a
text
prog, which after my email disasters, is a prime requirement.
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OK Mike, you have given it a pretty good run, I use Karen's
Replicator to back up my emails every 15mins.

Greyed out Text, just a matter of clicking the right buttons.

Screenshot offer still applies.

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