Another Example of why Linux Loses. Do the Samba b4 it does you.

[peter.traphagen]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/msg/c1ae58de0c236995

The question---

"I setup samba, and when trying to access the share from my windows pc
(or my
xbox with xbox media center, for that matter), it asks me to enter a
username and password. At that point, I enter my username and password
for
this machine(the machine hosting the shares). It doesn't seem to work,
as
it keeps asking me over and over for the user/pass. Am I doing
something
wrong? Is it possible to make it so that I do not need to authenticate?
Or
should I just try and make a new user just for samba? I'm so confused.
--
-rhox

The answer--

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/msg/a8592255453f927b

My standard cut/paste for setting up Samba to share with Windows (and
sorry, I can't help you with the Xbox bit but if you get the rest set
up I'm sure you can figure it out):

1. On Windows boxen, make sure all accounts are properly named (no
damned spaces) and there are no null passwords. Configure any firewalls
to allow lan traffic. Create shares as desired. Note that if any boxen
are XP Pro, you should disable Simple Sharing (Folder Options>View).

2. On Linux, create identical user account/passwords with your distro's
configuration method.
3. Make sure you've installed Samba server/client with your distro's
configuration method.
4. Configure run levels so that the nmb and smb daemons start at
bootup.

5. Now add your users to Samba. Make these match the ones on Windows. I
think the easiest way is from the console, so open one, su to root, and
type:
smbpasswd -a username [enter]
(enter password)
(enter password again)

6. Go to your distro's configuration method and set your Samba server
and client Identity to match your Windows Workgroup name.

7. I use KDE, so if you use Gnome or another window manager you'll need
to figure this next bit out yourself. Open up the Control Center and go
to Internet/Network and then Samba. Click on the Administrator Mode
(enter root password). I use User security level. Check to make sure
Shares (these are for the Linux box of course) are the way you want
them. Apply and close that part.

8. Click on File Sharing and enable Administrator Mode. Check "Enable
local network file sharing". I have mine set on "Advanced sharing".
Check the box for "Use Samba" rather than NFS.

And that's pretty much it. Now if you want to make a new share - say a
folder that isn't in your /home, you can right-click it to set Sharing
Properties. If all you want to share is your /home, you're done. Since
9.3, SUSE has a useful Network icon on the desktop (at least in KDE it
does) where you can find your Windows Workgroup and see all the smb
shares. Perhaps your distro does, too.

Note: To use a Linux firewall w/Samba - If you do not have WINS on the
network, then your network is relying on broadcasted browser
announcements for NetBios resolution. Configure your firewall to allow
NetBios broadcasts, with UDP and TCP ports 137-139 open.

This site has an excellent firewall how-to -
http://www.tweakhound.com/linux/samba/page_5.htm

Malke


Another example of why Linux loses and Microsoft wins.

 

[Newsguy]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/msg/c1ae58de0c236995

<SNIP>

And of course you are an example of why google
users should not be allowed newsgroup access.

 

[Hadron Quark]

<SNIP>

And of course you are an example of why google
users should not be allowed newsgroup access.

And all catholics should be burnt at the stake too?

Come off it : I would guess a great majority of people use google to
access usenet from the workplace.

 

[Neil S]

And all catholics should be burnt at the stake too?

Come off it : I would guess a great majority of people use google to
access usenet from the workplace.

True. Most of them even know that uk.legal isn't a linux group.

And have more sense to dredge up tohe old "My OS is better than yours"
argument.

 

[Pickled pigs knuckles]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

Another example of why he's philip's buttmonkey.

 

[BearItAll]

<SNIP>

And of course you are an example of why google
users should not be allowed newsgroup access.

Google has been good to Linux over many years, if their users want to make
use of the news system I don't have any problem with that.

 

[Dead Paul]

<SNIP>

And of course you are an example of why google users should not be allowed
newsgroup access.

you should set google groups in your news reader filter.

 

[Dead Paul]

And all catholics should be burnt at the stake too?

no just filter the jerks.

Come off it : I would guess a great majority of people use google to
access usenet from the workplace.

so what.

 

[Hadron Quark]

no just filter the jerks.

And how do you filter catholics? Last time I looked there wasn't a
"X-Religion" header.

so what.

So what what?

 

[Linonut]

After takin' a swig o' grog, Dead Paul belched out this bit o' wisdom:

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/ _ \/ __/ _ | / _ \ / _ \/ _ |/ / / / /
/ // / _// __ |/ // / / ___/ __ / /_/ / /__
/____/___/_/ |_/____/ /_/ /_/ |_\____/____/

Cool name, cool sig!

 

[JDS]

Another example of why Linux loses and Microsoft wins.

Maybe I am dumb, but in what way is this an example of that?

 

[Linonut]

After takin' a swig o' grog, JDS belched out this bit o' wisdom:

Maybe I am dumb, but in what way is this an example of that?

Wishful thinking.

Besides, Microsoft may be hoisted by its own petard with SMB 2.0.

 

[Geico Caveman]

In other words, it is possible with some difficulty to set up Linux to work
in a Windows network so that the network does not even know that a
non-Windows machine is present (and in complete absence of any
documentation from the vendor, in this case, Microsoft - just read the
history of Samba).

Might I ask if it is possible for a windows machine to similarly slip
unnoticed into a Linux / BSD / Unix network ? AFAIK, a Microsoft box is
like a screaming network brat chucking useless packets at all machines in
the vicinity. I know, since I have to include special rules in the
firewalls of my Linux machines to get rid of the flood.

Now, which OS is doing more ? You stupid trolls don't even realize that you
are doing Linux advocacy half the time.

 

[The Ghost In The Machine]

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, JDS
<[email protected]>
wrote

Maybe I am dumb, but in what way is this an example of that?

Obviously, a few people can't handle things more complicated than
"pointy pointy clicky whirr".

 

[Pickled pigs knuckles]

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, JDS
<[email protected]>
wrote


Obviously, a few people can't handle things more complicated than
"pointy pointy clicky whirr".

And all the pretty colors! It mesmerizes most of the lower life forms you
know.

 

[Cynic]

Obviously, a few people can't handle things more complicated than
"pointy pointy clicky whirr".

Or a question of whether the person sees a PC as being an end in
itself, or a means to an end.

I don't have to know what "Drop Forged" means in order to be able to
use a set of spanners. I might even make far better use of those
spanners than a person who drop-forges all day long.

Most people do not *want* to know how the tool works - they are more
interested in getting the tool to do what they want.

 

[JEDIDIAH]

Or a question of whether the person sees a PC as being an end in
itself, or a means to an end.

I don't have to know what "Drop Forged" means in order to be able to
use a set of spanners. I might even make far better use of those
spanners than a person who drop-forges all day long.

Most people do not *want* to know how the tool works - they are more
interested in getting the tool to do what they want.

That's fine when it's only an inert hunk of metal.
OTOH, a general purpose computer can be made to do dastardly
things behind your back when you're not paying attention.

A computer is more like a small child prone demonic
possession than a hammer or a screwdriver.

Also, no one tries to modify their hammer or screwdriver
or even toaster oven. You do that to a real appliance and your
warranty is suddenly null and void an the support drone from the
manufacturer won't want to have anything to do with you.

 

[PWY]

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, JDS
<[email protected]>
wrote


Obviously, a few people can't handle things more complicated than
"pointy pointy clicky whirr".

No, not a few people. About 90% of desktop computer users.
This is the one thing that the Linux people overlook and the one thing that
will keep Linux from being enormously popular.

Most people that use computers want to do just that: Use it. They have no
desire to learn to be a geek or to learn how software works. They just want
to use it as they do any other appliance. Realizing this is what made
Windows great.
No commands to learn no compiling etc.

 

[7]

asstroturfer (e-mail address removed) wrote

h

A large part of the problems with interoperability and Samba
is down to micoshaft lack of own internal documentation
for which micoshaft has been fined hundreds of millions
of dollars by the EU. They panicked and set 300 engineers
to do the job when a second fine loomed.

If they can't deliver documentation to EU courts on time,
then how the hell are you supposed to get networking
help from micoshaft's own support engineers?

I say sue micoshaft if your micoshaft networking interoperability
failures are not resolved in a timely manner citing
their lack of performance under court order and cite
the deployment of 300 engineers on threat of second fine
as your reason of evidence for suing for lack of service from micoshaft.

Any way, have you heard? Micoshaft newer OSes don't
support virtualization for basic versions.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....!!!

Thats when GNU/Linux has support for it built in like in
Knoppix and Elive which has the Qemu Virtual PC package that allows
other OSes like Linux or windopes to run in a small window reducing
it to nothing more than just another application.
Its worth having that run on your machine as you can max the window
and then not be able to tell the difference between your real
machine and the virtual PC. It just runs off of one file
and thus you can back it up whenever needed and never let that
micoshaft stupid OS take control of your machine ever.

http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com

 

[JEDIDIAH]

No, not a few people. About 90% of desktop computer users.
This is the one thing that the Linux people overlook and the one thing that
will keep Linux from being enormously popular.

That never stopped DOS.

The success of Windows has never had anything to do with
any of it's real strengths or weaknesses.

Most people that use computers want to do just that: Use it. They have no
desire to learn to be a geek or to learn how software works. They just want
to use it as they do any other appliance. Realizing this is what made

...except other appliances are just that.

You don't have any expectation of modifying them.
They don't do nasty things behind your back if your
not careful. They don't do nasty things in front of
your back if you don't have a clue.

Windows great.
No commands to learn no compiling etc.

Compiling is actually brain dead trivial compared
to what you really need to know to be a responsible
driver on the information super-highway.