Another Asus failure

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I recently had an Asus P4c800-E deluxe mainboard die on me. Last night my
Asus Radeon 9800 Pro video card died. Well, it didn't actually die, the fans
stopped working. I suddenly started getting some weirdness on the monitor
and decided to open up the case and look. Christ that thing gets hot. I'm
lucky it didn't take my new replacement mainboard with it or melt my NIC.
So that's 2 Asus products down in the span of 45 days. Both only 15 months
old. Everything else running just fine.
You can trust that I have purchased my last Asus product in this lifetime.
Their quality control sucks.
 
Big whoop. The 9800 is sitting right here to my left on my desk ready for
warranty RMA. My brand new ATI 9200 is in this box allowing me to see this
post as I type it. Was I supposed to go back to pen and paper for 5 weeks?
Asus makes well designed products. If they work they are the balls, you can
impress your friends. But from my experience and from reading many posts on
this subject it is obvious that their quality control is missing something.
It is your typical, Dilbert style, rush to market production plan.

I just want to warn anyone attempting to build a reliable work machine to
stay away from high end Asus products. Leave these for the tech warriors.
 
frustration is a very good motivator to speak out. imagine if all satisfied
asus customers(as I am) were as motivated.
 
So are you saying that you do not have any problems with Asus products and
that I've just had a run of incredibly bad luck, or are you saying that
defective products are the norm in the tech world and I should stop
complaining and learn to accept it to be happy?
 
BP said:
So are you saying that you do not have any problems with Asus products
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None aout 5 video cards and lost count on the number of mainboards. I still
have 3 -P3V4X P4B266 P4B533. All those systems reside at different family
members houses. I'm using a P4P800 SE currently.

and
that I've just had a run of incredibly bad luck,
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without a doubt, as it is a possibilty with anything you buy.

or are you saying that
defective products are the norm in the tech world and I should stop
complaining and learn to accept it to be happy?
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The 'norm' no...always a possibility...hell they have recalled pacemakers.

To each his own, if I had as many problems with a brand and I was sure it
wasn't an issue on my end, i would buy something else. I use Aopen quite a
bit and never had any bad experiences with them either.
I will not buy a FIC MSI ECS or soyo ever again, lite on - BENQ - or TDK
either. However, I don't go off and post everytime I have to RMA something,
I suppose if you have no one to listen to you and you need to get it off
your chest, this is as good a place as any. My wife can watch the ballgame
and listen to me rant at the same time, I'm lucky I guess.
 
JAD said:
None aout 5 video cards and lost count on the number of mainboards. I
still
have 3 -P3V4X P4B266 P4B533. All those systems reside at different family
members houses. I'm using a P4P800 SE currently.

and


without a doubt, as it is a possibilty with anything you buy.

or are you saying that

The 'norm' no...always a possibility...hell they have recalled pacemakers.

To each his own, if I had as many problems with a brand and I was sure it
wasn't an issue on my end, i would buy something else. I use Aopen quite a
bit and never had any bad experiences with them either.
I will not buy a FIC MSI ECS or soyo ever again, lite on - BENQ - or TDK
either. However, I don't go off and post everytime I have to RMA
something,
I suppose if you have no one to listen to you and you need to get it off
your chest, this is as good a place as any. My wife can watch the ballgame
and listen to me rant at the same time, I'm lucky I guess.
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It sounds like luck of the draw to me. I bought a cheap BIOSTAR mainboard
for my PII system, as well as several other no-flash, mid-priced products
and have never had a problem with any of them in 8 years. Perhaps this is a
"normal" event when playing with top of the line, bleeding edge products.
May be a lesson here.
I post this type of message because people check this group to get info or
confirm their buying decisions. I did. And when I did I heard nothing but
good things about Asus, and based my buying decision partially on the
results I found, as well as technical reviews and reseller ratings. After I
had my problems I was compelled to do a deeper search and found much
different information in other groups and websites. Now I know better.
If asked I can honestly post my opinion that Asus products are no better,
and no worse, than anything else out there. You shop by features and price
and forget about the brand names. They mean nothing.
 
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BP said:
I recently had an Asus P4c800-E deluxe mainboard die on me. Last
night my Asus Radeon 9800 Pro video card died. Well, it didn't
actually die, the fans stopped working. I suddenly started getting
some weirdness on the monitor and decided to open up the case and
look. Christ that thing gets hot. I'm lucky it didn't take my new
replacement mainboard with it or melt my NIC. So that's 2 Asus
products down in the span of 45 days. Both only 15 months old.
Everything else running just fine. You can trust that I have
purchased my last Asus product in this lifetime. Their quality
control sucks.
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I had a P4c800-E completely installed and all seemed well, but when I
plugging in some extra fans all the fan headers were dead with the exception
of the CPU. Last Asus I will have also. Too many faultly boards and sloppy
testing before shipping. They must be going the cheap route now.

....Allen
 
BP said:
It sounds like luck of the draw to me. I bought a cheap BIOSTAR mainboard
for my PII system, as well as several other no-flash, mid-priced products
and have never had a problem with any of them in 8 years. Perhaps this is
a "normal" event when playing with top of the line, bleeding edge
products. May be a lesson here.
I post this type of message because people check this group to get info or
confirm their buying decisions. I did. And when I did I heard nothing but
good things about Asus, and based my buying decision partially on the
results I found, as well as technical reviews and reseller ratings. After
I had my problems I was compelled to do a deeper search and found much
different information in other groups and websites. Now I know better.
If asked I can honestly post my opinion that Asus products are no better,
and no worse, than anything else out there. You shop by features and price
and forget about the brand names. They mean nothing.
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Sorry about your problems with Asus. I have used nothing but Asus for
many years with the exception of one Abit and I won't go there (their bad
cap period). I use Asus MBs in customers' builds as well as my own. This is
a new S775 I-6xx system I am on now with an Asus P5GDC MB. Put it together,
got the airflow in the box right and cranked it up without any problems. A
meg of DDR2, PCI-e/X850 ATI video, 2 SATA 0+1 Raid (onboard), One IDE Raid
(also onboard) and my optical drives (yep, onboard too). I use the
relatively recent CMI HD onboard sound too. Everything works as advertised
without a hitch. I guess there are good and bad with any brand. Yes, I have
had failures with Asus, but very few. With just the numbers of builds I have
done with them, it is expected from time to time. I don't use many Asus
video cards as they are usually just ATI/NVidia reference cards and not much
different from any other brand that can be purchased a bit cheaper through
the shop. Luck of the draw is probably a pretty good way to put it. You
could have had the same problems with about any other brand out there.

Ed
 
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