ANNOUNCE: Ice 3.0 released

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Herfried,
Well, in this particular case it's an advertisement for a non-Microsoft
product/service. That's the little but important difference.
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I don't see this in the rules of conduct. Can you show me where that is
written?

I have found "related to", not "only about". As you say it is it a policy I
never have seen by Microsoft. In my opinion do they encourage the creation
of add ons to their products, which makes the total result better.

Cor
 
Cor Ligthert said:
I don't see this in the rules of conduct. Can you show me where that is
written?

I have found "related to", not "only about".
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Well, so posting ads for commercial libraries which can be used with VB.NET
is okay too?
In my opinion do they encourage the creation of add ons to their products,
which makes the total result better.
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True, but that has nothing to do with the topic we are talking about.
 
Hi Cor,

My response was a satiracle response written in the original form of the OP.
I don't know who Ann is.
 
I believe this is an appropriate forum for an announcement of a middleware
product that supports grid computing for Visual Basic .NET.
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Of course you do! But my response was meant to imply that there are those
who see your cross-post as nothing but an unsolicited advertisement for your
product(s).

What question have you answered that was posted here?
What piece of information have you posted that addresses a VB.NET coding
issue?
Why cross-post to so many NG's if not to blanket them with your spam?
Are you some kind of moderator here, so that you can speak for "Microsoft
Newsgroups" in general?
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No, but I am a dedicated user trying to let you know how your post is being
recieved. There is a reason you don't see professional organizations
advertising their wares here...it's not a professional thing to do!
 
You can leave your attitude at the door please. The MS NG's may use the
USENET, but they have etiquitte and rules of their own. This kind of post
is an advertisement for a product. This post neither addresses a post made
by anyone or a specific VB.NET coding problem that someone has asked about.

There is a big difference between responding to someone and saying, "Hey,
there's a product we make that can solve your problem" and just posting an
unsolicited ad for a product.
 
If you are not interested in Ice, just ignore the posting. Many other
PHP/VB/C# users are very interested in Ice, and use it for a variety of
projects.
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And, if everyone who had someting to peddle made unsolicited posts about
their product, we'd have quite a few posts to ignore, wouldn't we? When you
post to a particular NG, you should be aware of the rules of conduct of that
NG. I can't speak about the 4 non-MS NG's you posted to but MS has rules of
conduct for their NG's and the one that I believe your post ignores is the
"peer-to-peer" quality of your post.

You are not responding to any particular peer, nor did any particular peer
ask for your post.

The bottom line is that MS NG's do not exisit for what you used them for and
users of the MS NG's don't expect to see posts like yours. Sure, some users
don't care one way or another, but SOME DO and since you aren't following
the rules of conduct for the NG in the first place, the right thing to do is
apologize, learn a lesson and move on.
 
Scott said:
I can't speak about the 4 non-MS NG's you posted ...
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Then why have you cross-posted your reply everywhere? Why couldn't you
take a moral high ground and just reply to those supposedly pristine
groups that you so generously patrol? Seriously.. get a life, will
you? A legitimate Announcement comes from a reasonably reputed company
with employees who are very well known in the area of distributed
computing and you act as if they are peddling drugs.

Unsolicited, my left foot. If Edgar Djikstra had cross-posted a brand
new optimized algorithm for the shortest path problem you would've
probably called him a clueless moron.
 
Then why have you cross-posted your reply everywhere?

Because I have no idea of knowing which NG (if any) the OP is going to read
and I want him to see my reply. It's not my fault that the OP cross-posted
in the first place!

As for the rest of your response, it is irrelevant and doesn't deserve a
reply (I'll take the moral high-ground as you suggest).
 
Dilip,
Unsolicited, my left foot. If Edgar Djikstra had cross-posted a brand
new optimized algorithm for the shortest path problem you would've
probably called him a clueless moron.
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Probably I would have written something like that.

Edsger Dijkstra from Eindhoven has died some years ago.
(I assume you mean him)

I would not have liked it when somebody was using his name.

Cor
 
Scott M. said:
You can leave your attitude at the door please. The MS NG's may use the
USENET, but they have etiquitte and rules of their own. This kind of post
is an advertisement for a product. This post neither addresses a post
made by anyone or a specific VB.NET coding problem that someone has asked
about.

There is a big difference between responding to someone and saying, "Hey,
there's a product we make that can solve your problem" and just posting an
unsolicited ad for a product.
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fwiw, I agree with this entirely. I have a few "offerings" as well but I'd
never "ANNOUNCE" a new release. If someone asks a question and I feel one of
my products would help, I try to provide links to 2 freeware solutions,
followed by links to my product(s). Evidence of this is easy to find on
Google Groups.

As mentioned in a previous post, I keep a trash can next to my mail box, run
MailWasher on my email box, have XP/SP2's Popup Blocker plus additional
popup blocker software, have caller-ID on my phone and take all steps I can
to avoid unsolicited ads from any company, anywhere, at any time. I feel
that, if I need a product, I am perfectly capable of finding it on my own
without being hammered by SPAM from every direction. I don't need someone to
announce the availability of something that I don't specifically need or
want. When the time comes that I may need such a product. Google is one
click away.

fwiw, announcements like this last a lot longer here in the .Net groups than
they do in the VB Classic groups. There are 3rd party groups setup
specifically for this type of post (and they're ghost towns because people
don't want see, hear, read spam)
 
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