AMD Processor vs. Pentium 4 Processor

[Patti]

I am having a computer built for me. It will have Windows
XP on it. I currently have a windows 98. I am not sure
if I am posting in the right area. If not, will you
please direct me.
My question is.....The guy says a AMD processor would be
just fine and save me money over a Pentium 4 HT
Processor. What do you think? I know nothing about
this. All I know is I want speed. If he does put in an
AMD processor, is there a certain one that he should put
in? We don't play many games, except those on CD's. We
do have lots of pictures, but don't do videos.
I would appreciate all the input I can get on this.
Thanks.

 

[charlie]

amd is just as good as a pentium and costs less . the
numbers on it 2200+ ,etc. mean that it runs at that speed
compare to a pentium 2.2 .just do not ever get a intel
celleron processor ,as it is old technology.even if it says 2.8

 

[Trip Lane]

This is a never-ending debate Patti. There are good arguments on both
sides. And a lot of emotion on both sides . But I'd say if you want
reliability, speed, and compatibility have them install an Intel P4 CPU on
an Intel motherboard. Years of experience have taught me there is nothing
more reliable than an Intel chip on an Intel motherboard - especially if
you're not a hardcore gamer and don't need to overclock anything. Cost isn't
everything.....

Trip

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Get an AMD64 processor. It will not only outperform any P4, but is ready
for the 64 bit version of windows. I have an AMD64 3200+ on an ASUS K8V SE
Deluxe MB with a gig of Corsair RAM. It kicks but over any of my P4
machines.

Bobby

 

[SlowJet]

no it doesn't

SJ

-----Original Message-----
amd is just as good as a pentium and costs less . the
numbers on it 2200+ ,etc. mean that it runs at that speed
compare to a pentium 2.2 .just do not ever get a intel
celleron processor ,as it is old technology.even if it says 2.8


.

 

[SlowJet]

This is a good combo, but older program may have problems
with the DEP NX page protection.

SJ

 

[SlowJet]

Yes, but some INtel boards are crap.

SJ be careful.

 

[SlowJet]

Get a ASUS board with a Pentium 2.8 HT, an newer SATA
Raptor disk dirve, and don't spare the memory (1 GB).

It wil be very fast. Easy to maintain and a lot of fun.

SJ

 

[Jaelani C. U.]

Intel "leads" the future standards and it has 100% support and
compatibility, so AMD has nowhere to go but to follow.
AMD on the other hand, has an advantage by following Intel.
AMD can avoids mistakes that Intel did and the result is a faster CPU.
Even though AMD is not 100% compatible with Intel (could be 90%), it
doesn't matter anymore, thanks to Microsoft.
Intel does cost more expensive rather than AMD.
So it all depends on your needs.
If you do some very important work, then Intel it's the choice.
If you have the budget, then go get both and evaluate yourself.
Also, see whether your applications you are working with recommend you to
use which CPU and what they require.

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi Patti,

On this subject you will get nothing but opinions, as the debate is ongoing.
Keep that in mind as you read the responses.

For my money, the AMD processors are the way to go. Period. In fact, I use
them exclusively in systems I build. They are simply "more bang for the
buck". Intel's Pentium IV's are over-priced, and are not going to get you
any better performance.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

I have yet to find a single program that wont run, and I have lots of
software (old and new) installed. Please post references and specifics for
software that has issues with DEP. I would love to install it and then set
it to exclude from the DEP and see what happens.

Bobby

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

With the AMD 64, AMD is NOT following Intel. Intel has been forced to mimic
the AMD 64 architecture, because the folks at Microsoft are using AMD 64
3200+ processors as testbeds for Windows x64. Intel had no choice but to
jump in line with AMD if it wanted it's ia64 procs to run windows.

We wont even mention the fact that in July AMD held a 54% market share, and
in August it held a 58% market share. P4s are not bad chips, they just have
no future. No 64 bit, they run hot as hell, and Hyperthreading is a
joke...the biggest marketing non-tool ever thrust upon the home computing
market.

Sounds like Jaelani, in addition to being on the Intel payroll, needs to do
a little homework.

Bobby

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Hyperthreading is the biggest marketing "lie" ever thrust upon the home
computing market. A computer that has HT enabled averages a 15% performance
decrease, because the vast majority of software is not HT aware. That is
why Intel used to ship the early chips with HT disabled. Since the most
recent P4 chips are already performance dogs, why would you enable HT and
cause additional performance loss? Not everyone runs Photoshop or Premeier
(these are two of the very few programs that ARE HT aware).

Bobby

 

[SlowJet]

Not true, it makes a differnce.
I have 438 threds runing on my puter right now.
2 treads (or maybe more if the cpu stack allows that) can
run at the same time, not very fast almost as fi like the
same time, but the same exact time.

I think the specs are 12% or 21% increase in throgh put.

And it's soooooo smoth, especially for mouse movers.
(don't move the mouse to try to make things happen
faster.)

SJ

 

[SlowJet]

I said 'may". don't be a jerk.

SJ

-----Original Message-----
I have yet to find a single program that wont run, and I have lots of
software (old and new) installed. Please post references and specifics for
software that has issues with DEP. I would love to install it and then set
it to exclude from the DEP and see what happens.

Bobby




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[Al Smith]

Get an AMD64 processor. It will not only outperform any P4, but is ready

for the 64 bit version of windows. I have an AMD64 3200+ on an ASUS K8V SE
Deluxe MB with a gig of Corsair RAM. It kicks but over any of my P4
machines.

Bobby

What do you know? That's the same system I'm going to build, once
the back to school buying craze is over and I can get the parts --
say in about two weeks. Same mother board, same CPU, same amount
of RAM. Nice to know it is kickass.

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi Al,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1022270&CatId=1181

Though I prefer to get my ram from www.crucial.com, corsair is fine as well.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Al Smith]

Hi Al,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1022270&CatId=1181

Though I prefer to get my ram from www.crucial.com, corsair is fine as well.

-- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

I spent long hours on several nights looking at all the boxes on
TigerDirect. Sort of like leafing through the pages of Penthouse,
but more fun. I was going to go with one of their bare bones
systems, but I want an Asus motherboard and none of the barebones
setups they offer on TigerDirect CA (for Canada) that looked good
for me had Asus. I could get the board separately, but if I were
to order through the Net I'd want a complete system, not a bunch
of parts. In the end, I decided to buy parts locally and put them
together. The price is around the same as the TigerDirect price,
and the guys at the store will be able to tell me what I did wrong
if I put everything together and it won't boot.

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

Have you tried www.tufshop.com for the barebones systems yet? I've had some
good luck there as well.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org