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YKhan
I don't really buy his arguments, but I'm posting it anyways.
AMD's K10 Is delayed or dead
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27421
Yousuf Khan
AMD's K10 Is delayed or dead
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27421
Yousuf Khan
I don't really buy his arguments, but I'm posting it anyways.
AMD's K10 Is delayed or dead
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27421
Tony said:I'm not sure whether it's true or not, but AMD sure hasn't said much
about any future generation cores. All they are talking about
publicly are tweaks to the existing K8 core.
I'm not sure that AMD is necessarily in desperate need of a new core
just yet, but if they want to keep the advantage they have now they
are definitely going to have to continue pushing forward. With the
way things are going it seems that Intel could easily catch up with
AMD by sometime in 2007 if all AMD is planning on doing is tweaking
their existing core.
YKhan said:My feelings too, but I'm not sure a new core is all that important to
them. It seems all of their performance improvements were as a result
of stuff that hangs off of the core, but isn't really a part of the
core, like HTT and memory controller; making further improvements on
those seems to be the path of greater return.
They can probably make
even lower power AMD64's by adding circuitry into the existing core
like Intel did with the Pentium 3 to come up with the Pentium M, which
would be the intelligent power management stuff.
Tony said:I'm not sure whether it's true or not, but AMD sure hasn't said much
about any future generation cores. All they are talking about
publicly are tweaks to the existing K8 core.
I'm not sure that AMD is necessarily in desperate need of a new core
just yet, but if they want to keep the advantage they have now they
are definitely going to have to continue pushing forward. With the
way things are going it seems that Intel could easily catch up with
AMD by sometime in 2007 if all AMD is planning on doing is tweaking
their existing core.
Rob said:Paxville's abject failure and Intel's recent cancellations have taken a
lot of pressure off of AMD. Since AMD now knows that they have a little
more time to tweak and debug, perhaps that is all they are doing: using
the available time for exactly that.
Yousuf said:Or as Sander Sassen, at Hardwareanalysis, puts it: "Cedar Mill, Intel's
65-nm Pentium 4, will finally put the Pentium 4 on par with AMD's Athlon
64 in terms of performance, power-consumption and heat-production...."
"Intel's new 65-nm processors"
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1820/
"AMD’s new sockets and DDR2 support"
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1820.2/
Me thinks there's a just a wee bit of an Intel bias in that boy's articles.
All he has to work with are Intel and AMD press releases, so what
I was seeing in those articles is exactly what those two
companies have been saying - nothing more and nothing less.
George said:Don't you think though that it is also typical of a mindset which has not
grasped just how far ahead AMD is right now? We see it all the time here.
All he has to work with are Intel and AMD press releases, so what
I was seeing in those articles is exactly what those two
companies have been saying - nothing more and nothing less.
Rob said:You are missing the point: Sassen said *nothing* to indicate
*his* mindset. One of his two articles regurgitated AMD's press
releases and the other regurgitated Intel's. Period. Full stop.
In those two articles the content/opinions from Sassen=NIL.
YKhan said:So you're saying that on AMD's press release, AMD said that Intel's
Cedar Mill will catch upto them finally?
You are missing the point: Sassen said *nothing* to indicate
*his* mindset. One of his two articles regurgitated AMD's press
releases and the other regurgitated Intel's. Period. Full stop.
In those two articles the content/opinions from Sassen=NIL.
Or as Sander Sassen, at Hardwareanalysis, puts it: "Cedar Mill, Intel's
65-nm Pentium 4, will finally put the Pentium 4 on par with AMD's Athlon
64 in terms of performance, power-consumption and heat-production...."
Rob said:No, I didn't intend to say that. Instead of saying that one article is
an AMD release and the other an Intel, I should have said that neither
article contains anything that isn't in the press releases from those
two companies.
To put it another way, you will fail if you try to find something in
either article that Sassen got from anyplace other than Intel or AMD.
Neither article has anything about either AMD or Intel's future chips
that is not obviously copied or paraphrased from the AMD and Intel flacks.
Well, that can be said about just about any announcement article out
there. However, this article came not from his news announcements pile,
but from his editorial section. And in editorials, it's all of the
little flourishes and spins that they add that indicate their
preferences. Among the editorial conclusions that he makes, besides that
Cedar Mill will finally catch upto AMD, he also makes the conclusion
that only Pentium M is worth having in a laptop and that AMD has nothing
worthy to compete against that, despite the fact that AMD has already
said that they experienced 72% growth rates in the amount of laptop
chips they sold.
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