AMD Athlon XP 1700+

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Hello, I am currently having a problem that I can't seem to fix, and it
seems to crash applications. When I first start the computer, BIOS says
that I have an "Unknow CPU Type 1533MHz". When Windows detects CPU it
says "Unknow CPU Type" as well. I can't seem to fix this problem,
because it sometimes causes a BSOD with a "STOP" error. I think my video
card may have some problems too, because some times it lists an nVIDIA
driver as the "STOP" error. Any suggestions?

This Computer:
-GenuineAMD Athlon XP 1700+ 1.53GHz
-MSI K7T TURBO2 Mainboard
-(Brand New!) Western Digital WD400 40GB 7200RPM 4MB Cache
-Mitsumi DVD-ROM Drive
-(Disconnected) Iomega Internal IDE ZIP100
-Standard NEC 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive
-MSI AC'97 On board Audio
-nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 with AGP8X
-(Primary) Creative SoundBlaster Live! WDM Value
-Agere Systems Standard 56K Communication Device
-Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter
-Windows XP Professional SP1 Corporate
-New Security Updates

Mainly, these problems occur when playing games, or using Adobe
Photoshop. The software I have tried is:

-HALO: Combat Evolved (WILL NOT START!)
-Unreal Tournament 2003 (nv4_disp.dll error!)
-Grand Theft Auto III (Unexpected Exception!)
-The Thing (BSOD in middle of game!)
-Adobe Photoshop 6 (System hangs and reboots.)
-Quake III Arena (Game just hangs and exits in game.)
-James Bond 007: Nightfire (WILL NOT START!)

This is very annoying, as I just installed Windows XP for the 20,000th
time, and if you could help it would be appreciated.

 

[Chris H.]

You don't mention what you've tried, updating the chipset drivers, changing
the graphic card drivers. Have you tried that? I'd check the MSI web site
and see if there are any updates, and also go to www.nvidia.com for the
graphics card drivers.
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Microsoft Windows MVP
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[Chris Lanier [MVP]]

Reinstall nVidia's display drivers.

 

[Guest]

make sure you have your BIOS set up correctly, the most common problem with this is that you did not

Set High proformance defaults, MSI has this set to NORMAL Defaults to work with Duron processors for the open BOX product so that IF YOU CHOOSE to put in a Duron processor the HIGH PROFORMANCE DEFAULT setting wont FRY your Duron, so now you must set HIGH PROFORMANCE DEFAULTS so that your MSI mainboard will reconize your Atholon processor. And you should make the other following settings in your BIOS for maximum profomance

Start up your computer and enter the BIO

first load Hi Proformance defaults by pressing [F7
Save and Exit and the comp will now restart and you will now see your Atholon 1700 reconized

Enter the BIOS again and make the following setting


Standard CMOS Feature
Boot Sector virus Protection Disable

Advanced Bios Feature
Quick Boot Enable
Full Screen Logo Show Disable
S.M.A.R.T for Hard Disks Disable
BootUp Num-Lock O
Floppy Drive Swap Disable
Floppy Drive Seek Disable
Primary Display VGA/EG
Password Check Setu
Boot To OS/2 N
Internal Cachebale WriteBac
System Bios Cacheable Enable
C000,32k Shadow Cache
APIC Function Enable
MPS Table Versioin 1.
Boot Sequenc
1st CD/DVD: Atapi CDro
2nd Floppy 1.4
3rd ID
Try other boot Devices Ye

Advaced Chipset Feature
Dram Timing Contro
Current Host Clock 133MH
Configure SDRAM Timing by SP
SDRAM Frequency SP
SDRAM Burst Lenth 4 Q
SDRAM 1T Command Enable
Fast Command Ultr
AGP Timing Contro
(Just set it to 2X unless you want problems
AGP Mode 2
AGP Comp Driving Aut
AGP Fast Write Disable
(I have GForce Ti 4200 with 128MB ram, so you must set AGP aperture size to double of your videocard memory
AGP Aperture Size 256MB ( 2X of Video card memory
AGP Master 1 W/S write Disable
AGP Master W/S Read Disable
AGP Read Synchronization Disable
PCI Delay Transaction Disable

Power Managment Feature
IPCA Function YE
ACPI Standby State S1/PO
Call VGA at S3 Resuming Enable
USB WakeUp From S3 Disable
Power Management/APM Enable
Power/Sleep LED Single LE
Suspend Time Out (minute) Disable
Display Activity Ignor
CPU Critical Temperatur Disabled ( this crap dont work anyway
Power Button Function On/Of
After AC power loss Power OF
Set WakeUP Event
Wake Up On Ring Enable
Wake Up on PME Enable
Resume On KBC Disable
Resume On PS/2 Mouse Disable
Resume By Alarm Disable

PNP/PCI Configuration
Plug and Play Aware O/S Ye
Clear NVRAM N
PCI Latency Timer 12
PCI IDE BusMaster Disable
Primary Graphics Adapter AG
PCI Slot 1/5 Aut
PCI Slot 2 Aut
PCI Slot 3 Aut
PCI Slot 4 Aut

Integrated Peripheral
FDC Function Aut
Serial Port1 Aut
Serial Port2 Aut
Serial Port2 Mode Norma
OnBoard Parallel Port Aut
Parallel Port Mode Norma
OnBoard Midi Port Disabled ( this dont work and it never will, get Sound Blaster Live sound card
OnBoard Game Port Disabled ( this dont work and it never will, get Sound Blaster Live sound card
OnBoard IDE Bot
( AC'97 Audio dont work very well and will crap out on your in a few months, and good luck getting your mic to work
AC'97 Audio Disabled ( get Sound Blaster Live sound card
( FOR GOD SAKE, DONT ENABLE OR USE THIS, it dont even work, get an external modem
MC'97 Modem Disabled

PC Health Statu
Chassis Intrusion Disable
CPU Fan Detection Enable

Freqency / Voltage Contro
Spread Spectrum Disable
( For Atholon 1700 change Host Clock from 100 to 133
( Atholon runs 2 cycles per second witch comes out to 133 X 2 = 266 MHz FSB
CPU FSB Clock 133 MH
CPU Ratio Aut
CPU Vcore (V) Aut
DDR Voltage (V) Aut
AGP Voltage (V) Aut

now EXIT and SAVE with new setting

connect a router to your comp so that you can access the net without getting any worms such as the MSBlast worm that will cause your comp to restart on its own and display an RPC error

NOW YOU MUST INSTALL YOUR OS from scratch ( Format ), winXP or higher recommended, then Install your motherboard drivers and AGP drivers from the CD that came with your motherboard first, then you can install the updated versions AFTER YOU COMPLETE THE INSTALL FROM THE CD.

http://www.windowsupdate.com
goto Windows update and download and install Service Pack 1 ( SP1 )
restart
goto Windows update and download ALL THE CRITICAL UPDATES
restart
goto Windows update and download the LATEST Direct X
restart
goto Windows update and get the rest of the updates
restart

you can now disconnect your router and hook up directly to your cable modem or DSL if you want, you are now protected from all current KNOWN worms via the critical updates, I recommend that you set winXP to automatically download and install Critical updates.

DEFRAGMENT your hard drive you install winXP on
restart

YOU CAN NOW INSTALL PROGRAMS AND GAMES AS YOU SEE FIT.

 

[[UltGC] Administration Center]

You don't mention what you've tried, updating the chipset drivers, changing
the graphic card drivers. Have you tried that? I'd check the MSI web site
and see if there are any updates, and also go to www.nvidia.com for the
graphics card drivers.

Thank you for your assistance Chris. I would like to say I have tried
the following updates:

nVIDIA GeForce4 Display Adapter
Windows XP Professional SP1
Creative SoundBlaster Live! WDM Value Drivers
MSI Mainboard software
All Drivers

 

[John Luna]

Did you flash the BIOS to the most current version? How much RAM do you
have?
http://www.msicomputer.com/support/bios_result.asp

The "Unknown CPU" is normal for MB that where not design for Athlon XP but
were later patch with a BIOS update. My Abit KT7A-Raid is the same way. I
just resently added a 1800+ cpu and FX5200 video card. I have to twitch the
BIOS settings and free up more memory by not allowing unnessary programs to
run. This fix a lot of the issues I was having. With the new hardware and
the games I am playing I am now getting ready to add more RAM. I only have
384 PC100 Ram. I will be upgrading to 1 GB of PC133. This should fix any
problems I am currently having.

 

[John Luna]

I just look up your MB you are using the same VIA chipset that I am using.
This means that you sure be using VIA 4 in 1 version 4.38. This is the last
chipset that was release for KT133A chip. Programs like Divx won't work this
anything after 4.38.

Download it here:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=349

 

[John Luna]

Check this forum for more help.
http://forums.sudhian.com/index.cfm?FTVAR_SUBCAT=68&nocookies=y&subcatname=SFF TECH

I just look up your MB you are using the same VIA chipset that I am using.
This means that you sure be using VIA 4 in 1 version 4.38. This is the last
chipset that was release for KT133A chip. Programs like Divx won't work this
anything after 4.38.

Download it here:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=349

Hello, I am currently having a problem that I can't seem to fix, and it
seems to crash applications. When I first start the computer, BIOS says
that I have an "Unknow CPU Type 1533MHz". When Windows detects CPU it
says "Unknow CPU Type" as well. I can't seem to fix this problem,
because it sometimes causes a BSOD with a "STOP" error. I think my video
card may have some problems too, because some times it lists an nVIDIA
driver as the "STOP" error. Any suggestions?

This Computer:
-GenuineAMD Athlon XP 1700+ 1.53GHz
-MSI K7T TURBO2 Mainboard
-(Brand New!) Western Digital WD400 40GB 7200RPM 4MB Cache
-Mitsumi DVD-ROM Drive
-(Disconnected) Iomega Internal IDE ZIP100
-Standard NEC 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive
-MSI AC'97 On board Audio
-nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 with AGP8X
-(Primary) Creative SoundBlaster Live! WDM Value
-Agere Systems Standard 56K Communication Device
-Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter
-Windows XP Professional SP1 Corporate
-New Security Updates

Mainly, these problems occur when playing games, or using Adobe
Photoshop. The software I have tried is:

-HALO: Combat Evolved (WILL NOT START!)
-Unreal Tournament 2003 (nv4_disp.dll error!)
-Grand Theft Auto III (Unexpected Exception!)
-The Thing (BSOD in middle of game!)
-Adobe Photoshop 6 (System hangs and reboots.)
-Quake III Arena (Game just hangs and exits in game.)
-James Bond 007: Nightfire (WILL NOT START!)

This is very annoying, as I just installed Windows XP for the 20,000th
time, and if you could help it would be appreciated.

 

[John Luna]

http://forums.sudhian.com/index.cfm?nocookies=yes

Check this forum for more help.
http://forums.sudhian.com/index.cfm?FTVAR_SUBCAT=68&nocookies=y&subcatname=SFF TECH

I just look up your MB you are using the same VIA chipset that I am using.
This means that you sure be using VIA 4 in 1 version 4.38. This is the last
chipset that was release for KT133A chip. Programs like Divx won't work this
anything after 4.38.

Download it here:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=349

Hello, I am currently having a problem that I can't seem to fix, and it
seems to crash applications. When I first start the computer, BIOS says
that I have an "Unknow CPU Type 1533MHz". When Windows detects CPU it
says "Unknow CPU Type" as well. I can't seem to fix this problem,
because it sometimes causes a BSOD with a "STOP" error. I think my video
card may have some problems too, because some times it lists an nVIDIA
driver as the "STOP" error. Any suggestions?

This Computer:
-GenuineAMD Athlon XP 1700+ 1.53GHz
-MSI K7T TURBO2 Mainboard
-(Brand New!) Western Digital WD400 40GB 7200RPM 4MB Cache
-Mitsumi DVD-ROM Drive
-(Disconnected) Iomega Internal IDE ZIP100
-Standard NEC 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive
-MSI AC'97 On board Audio
-nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 with AGP8X
-(Primary) Creative SoundBlaster Live! WDM Value
-Agere Systems Standard 56K Communication Device
-Intel PRO/100+ Management Adapter
-Windows XP Professional SP1 Corporate
-New Security Updates

Mainly, these problems occur when playing games, or using Adobe
Photoshop. The software I have tried is:

-HALO: Combat Evolved (WILL NOT START!)
-Unreal Tournament 2003 (nv4_disp.dll error!)
-Grand Theft Auto III (Unexpected Exception!)
-The Thing (BSOD in middle of game!)
-Adobe Photoshop 6 (System hangs and reboots.)
-Quake III Arena (Game just hangs and exits in game.)
-James Bond 007: Nightfire (WILL NOT START!)

This is very annoying, as I just installed Windows XP for the 20,000th
time, and if you could help it would be appreciated.