AMD Athlon XP 1700+ & BioStar M7VIQ

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steventhomas42

I am trying to build a simple PC for my wife to use at home, primarily
for e-mail and web browsing.

I was given a BioStar M7VIQ motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ CPU
by a co-worker. It was working when pulled from a system his family
owned.

I put two SimpleTech 512MB PC2100 DDR DIMMs in and put the board in a
new case I have. The only heatsink I have that fits uses Molex power,
not fan header power.

I connected all the front panel connectors. I attached a mouse,
keyboard, and monitor. When I powered up the system, the fan began
spinning immediately, the sytem began to POST, and I recieved a 1-2
second solid BEEP code. 5 seconds later, the beep repeated. I have
tried both the onboard Video and a AGP video card, and I can't get a
video signal to the monitor from either.

I d/l a manual from Biostar. The board had the JCLK1 jumper set for
100MHz when I recieved it, but the CPU is a 133MHz interface. I tried
both settings with no change.

The JDIMMVOLT jumper was set for 2.5V, which is correct for the
SimpleTech RAM.

I jumpered the CMOS Reset for 5 seconds and then rebooted. No change.

In my experience, beeps so early in the POST are almost always RAM, but
I know the RAM is good. The fact that it never sends a video signal is
a good indication to me that it's not making it that far into the POST
process.

I suspect the board is no longer good (it wasn't in an anti-static bag
when handed to me today).

I've heard too that some boards don't like not having a fan hooked up
to the CPU fan header, so I tried hooking up a fan that is for a
different cpu type (just hanging that fan over the edge of the case and
letting my existing one do the cooling) but nothing changed.

Anyone got any hints? The mobo manual is not very complete good, and
my favorite research sites on the web have not yielded any results.

Thanks in advance.

Steve
 
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Rod Speed

(e-mail address removed) wrote
I am trying to build a simple PC for my wife to
use at home, primarily for e-mail and web browsing.
I was given a BioStar M7VIQ motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 1700+
CPU by a co-worker. It was working when pulled from a system his
family owned.
I put two SimpleTech 512MB PC2100 DDR DIMMs in and put the board in a
new case I have. The only heatsink I have that fits uses Molex power,
not fan header power.
I connected all the front panel connectors. I attached a mouse,
keyboard, and monitor. When I powered up the system, the fan began
spinning immediately, the sytem began to POST, and I recieved a 1-2
second solid BEEP code. 5 seconds later, the beep repeated. I have
tried both the onboard Video and a AGP video card, and I can't get a
video signal to the monitor from either.
I d/l a manual from Biostar. The board had the JCLK1 jumper set for
100MHz when I recieved it, but the CPU is a 133MHz interface. I tried
both settings with no change.
The JDIMMVOLT jumper was set for 2.5V, which is correct for the
SimpleTech RAM.
I jumpered the CMOS Reset for 5 seconds and then rebooted. No change.
In my experience, beeps so early in the POST are
almost always RAM, but I know the RAM is good.

And since its got an award bios, that fits with that too for ram.
The fact that it never sends a video signal is a good indication
to me that it's not making it that far into the POST process.
I suspect the board is no longer good (it wasn't
in an anti-static bag when handed to me today).

Its unlikely to be that.
I've heard too that some boards don't like not having a fan hooked
up to the CPU fan header, so I tried hooking up a fan that is for a
different cpu type (just hanging that fan over the edge of the case
and letting my existing one do the cooling) but nothing changed.
Anyone got any hints?

I'd try just one stick of ram, and if that makes
no difference, try a different stick of ram.
The mobo manual is not very complete good,

Yeah, pretty minimal.
and my favorite research sites on the web have not yielded any results.

Likely it just doesnt like the ram.
 
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kony

I am trying to build a simple PC for my wife to use at home, primarily
for e-mail and web browsing.

I was given a BioStar M7VIQ motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ CPU
by a co-worker. It was working when pulled from a system his family
owned.

I put two SimpleTech 512MB PC2100 DDR DIMMs in and put the board in a
new case I have. The only heatsink I have that fits uses Molex power,
not fan header power.

Take out one DIMM... try it and then if no luck, strip
system down to only CPU, heatsink/fan, onboard video, and
the one memory module- unhooking EVERYTHING else.

What PSU are you using?

I connected all the front panel connectors.

Disconnect those for the time being, try to turn it on by
shorting the Power-on pins. Clear CMOS first and take the
battery voltage with a multimeter if possible.
I attached a mouse,
keyboard, and monitor. When I powered up the system, the fan began
spinning immediately, the sytem began to POST, and I recieved a 1-2
second solid BEEP code. 5 seconds later, the beep repeated. I have
tried both the onboard Video and a AGP video card, and I can't get a
video signal to the monitor from either.

I d/l a manual from Biostar. The board had the JCLK1 jumper set for
100MHz when I recieved it, but the CPU is a 133MHz interface. I tried
both settings with no change.

Leave it on 100MHz for the time being- it'll be
underclocking the CPU, but it will also be more likely to
work if something is marginal... then after it's working,
retry at 133MHz.

The JDIMMVOLT jumper was set for 2.5V, which is correct for the
SimpleTech RAM.

Same as with FSB, jumper to higher voltage, like up to 2.7V
(shouldn't need any higher than that, or the highest it does
support higher than 2.5V), then if/when it works, later
rejumper to 2.5V.
I jumpered the CMOS Reset for 5 seconds and then rebooted. No change.

Was AC power disconnected at the time? If not, do that.

In my experience, beeps so early in the POST are almost always RAM, but
I know the RAM is good. The fact that it never sends a video signal is
a good indication to me that it's not making it that far into the POST
process.

I suspect the board is no longer good (it wasn't in an anti-static bag
when handed to me today).

It is possible it was damaged, or only logically so if the
EEPROM were zapped and erased, between last working and now.
The only way to know this for sure is elimination of
variables by trying other known working parts with that
board, and another known working board with those parts.

I've heard too that some boards don't like not having a fan hooked up
to the CPU fan header, so I tried hooking up a fan that is for a
different cpu type (just hanging that fan over the edge of the case and
letting my existing one do the cooling) but nothing changed.

They're supposed to shut off, not just beep, if they need a
fan signal... or at least POST then show a warning on-screen
that there's no fan signal and provide an opportunity to
enter the bios and disable that.

Anyone got any hints? The mobo manual is not very complete good, and
my favorite research sites on the web have not yielded any results.

Sometimes you can use a PCI video card and get monitor
output, for example if the bios is partially intact. IF it
has a bootblock present/working and you hook up a floppy
drive it might try to access the floppy to read in a bios to
program.
 
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IShb3w

On 6 Oct 2006 19:47:12 -0700, (e-mail address removed)
wrote:

i would try jumpering it for longer than that, i usually count to 30
seconds. I own a DFI board and there are certain methods to be used to
properly clear it entirely, which in that case takes 10 minutes. Like
stated before, make sure the psu is unplugged from the wall.
 
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Mitch Crane

i would try jumpering it for longer than that, i usually count to 30
seconds. I own a DFI board and there are certain methods to be used to
properly clear it entirely, which in that case takes 10 minutes. Like
stated before, make sure the psu is unplugged from the wall.

And I always press the power button after I've unplugged the PSU. I don't
know if that has any effect on the CMOS, but it discharges at least parts
of the system.
 
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Mitochondrion

Yes the power button after disconnect does discharge some latent
charge from the PSU, however I can't help but to think that with all
I read about Semiconductors/Digital Electronics is that Transient
voltage like a short spike (not nessesarily being over current or a
surge) is just NOT good for these components. I don't know how much
effect that pressing the button has but...If it's bad it's bad i
figure.
 
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Rod Speed

Mitochondrion said:
Yes the power button after disconnect does discharge some latent
charge from the PSU, however I can't help but to think that with all
I read about Semiconductors/Digital Electronics is that Transient
voltage like a short spike (not nessesarily being over current or a
surge) is just NOT good for these components.

Oh bullshit. That happens every time you turn the system on.
I don't know how much effect that pressing the button has but...
If it's bad it's bad i figure.

More fool you.
 

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