AMD Athlon 1400 MHz overheating

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Capman

I am running an AMD Athlon 1400 MHz (Thunderbird) in an Asus A7M266
motherboard. It seems to be running too hot and it's worrying me. The
ASUS PC Probe V2.23.01 software shows the CPU temp to be 66C - 70C.
The room isn't too warm, so I am unsure what's happening. The system
is not overclocked, so that's not the problem. I am not sure what
heatsink/fan combo it's running at the present time because it was
installed by a dealer when I bought the PC and I don't recall any
markings to identify it.

I would appreciate it if anyone could suggest better cooling options
(Air) for this setup or any other suggestions. It is installed in a
large tower SuperCase if that's of any help. The BIOS in revision
1007.

Thank You
 
M

Milleron

I am running an AMD Athlon 1400 MHz (Thunderbird) in an Asus A7M266
motherboard. It seems to be running too hot and it's worrying me. The
ASUS PC Probe V2.23.01 software shows the CPU temp to be 66C - 70C.
The room isn't too warm, so I am unsure what's happening. The system
is not overclocked, so that's not the problem. I am not sure what
heatsink/fan combo it's running at the present time because it was
installed by a dealer when I bought the PC and I don't recall any
markings to identify it.

I would appreciate it if anyone could suggest better cooling options
(Air) for this setup or any other suggestions. It is installed in a
large tower SuperCase if that's of any help. The BIOS in revision
1007.

Thank You

An A7M266 with a 1400MHz TBird should have been assembled around the
summer of 2001. Even the worst-available HSF from 2001 should easily
keep that CPU below 55C. BIOS 1007 reports temperatures fully 10°
hotter than prior versions, but your temps are still way high. If
it's run for three years without maintenance, it could just be clogged
up with dust. Have you cracked the case to vacuum all the fins on
the heatsink and all the air inlets in the front of the case?
Ron
 
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Adam S

Milleron said:
An A7M266 with a 1400MHz TBird should have been assembled around the
summer of 2001. Even the worst-available HSF from 2001 should easily
keep that CPU below 55C. BIOS 1007 reports temperatures fully 10°
hotter than prior versions, but your temps are still way high. If
it's run for three years without maintenance, it could just be clogged
up with dust. Have you cracked the case to vacuum all the fins on
the heatsink and all the air inlets in the front of the case?
Ron

Please dont use a vacuum cleaner inside your PC case, they are an
_excellent_ static generator and will kill your PC dead! Use a compressed
air can to remove the dust or even take the case outside and manually blow
the dust out by human effort.

Adam S
 
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Paul

"Adam S" said:
Please dont use a vacuum cleaner inside your PC case, they are an
_excellent_ static generator and will kill your PC dead! Use a compressed
air can to remove the dust or even take the case outside and manually blow
the dust out by human effort.

Adam S

No vacuum cleaners or compressed air! We had one poster here just
recently, kill a system while cleaning with compressed air. Moving
air can generate static electricity, and when it discharges
into one of the components on the board, you'll end up killing
the board. Manual cleaning is good enough.

First, open the case and observe all the fans running.

If you notice the CPU temp drops with the side off the case, then
not enough air is moving through the case. Delta_T between motherboard
temp and outside air temp shouldn't be greater than about 7C with
the case closed. If your case has removable filters, they could
be clogged with dirt.

Shut down, then disassemble the HSF and check the thermal interface
material. It could be grease or it could be using a pad. If it is
using grease or a paste (pick a name), you may need to reapply said
material, to see a reduction in temperature. Apply a minimal amount
of paste, as it should not be allowed to squirt out onto the bridges
or areas other than the die. I like to experiment, by putting the
amount of paste to cover the head of a pin, onto the die, then
lower the heatsink into it, and see how much it spreads. The paste
should form a thin layer, just enough to remove trapped air from
between HSF and CPU when the HSF is put back in place. You aren't
building an Oreo cookie :)

If the HSF used a thermal pad, check the pad for scratches or damage.
If the material is still in good shape, you might be able to reuse
it. On a hot CPU like that, finding a good replacement pad could
be a challenge, and paste is easier to find. (Just no Radio Shack
white zinc paste, as it sucks.)

I like to do work like this, with the motherboard outside the case.
Especially as it is easy to chip the die on the CPU while reassembling,
if you are working in a confined space. If your screwdriver slips
while compressing a clip, the board could get damaged as well.
It will also make it easier to clean anything that needs cleaning.
Just take note of where everything goes, on a scrap of paper, before
proceeding. While virtually all the cables will be keyed in one way
or another, good disassembly practice is to note the orientation of
every connector, so you can assemble again, using just the info
you've collected.

Another option is to adjust Vcore, if there is an adjustment on
your board. But if your system was fine for the entire three years,
I would think either the interface material (critical to getting
heat into the HSF fins) or the fan isn't running properly, so
reducing Vcore at the risk of instability might not be worth it.

HTH,
Paul
 
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Gene Puhl

I am running an AMD Athlon 1400 MHz (Thunderbird) in an Asus A7M266
motherboard. It seems to be running too hot and it's worrying me. The
ASUS PC Probe V2.23.01 software shows the CPU temp to be 66C - 70C.
The room isn't too warm, so I am unsure what's happening. The system
is not overclocked, so that's not the problem. I am not sure what
heatsink/fan combo it's running at the present time because it was
installed by a dealer when I bought the PC and I don't recall any
markings to identify it.

I would appreciate it if anyone could suggest better cooling options
(Air) for this setup or any other suggestions. It is installed in a
large tower SuperCase if that's of any help. The BIOS in revision
1007.

Thank You

Remove the cover and clean the dust out of the CPU heatsink (do NOT use a
vacuum cleaner, they generate static!)and clean all the dust buildup on the
air vents. Replace cover and run the machine, if the temp isn't lower,
remove the cover and run the machine, if the temp drops, you have an
airflow problem.
 
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Kylesb

| On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:40:14 -0400, Capman
<[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >I am running an AMD Athlon 1400 MHz (Thunderbird) in an Asus
A7M266
| >motherboard. It seems to be running too hot and it's worrying me.
The
| >ASUS PC Probe V2.23.01 software shows the CPU temp to be 66C - 70C.
| >The room isn't too warm, so I am unsure what's happening. The
system
| >is not overclocked, so that's not the problem. I am not sure what
| >heatsink/fan combo it's running at the present time because it was
| >installed by a dealer when I bought the PC and I don't recall any
| >markings to identify it.
| >
| >I would appreciate it if anyone could suggest better cooling
options
| >(Air) for this setup or any other suggestions. It is installed in a
| >large tower SuperCase if that's of any help. The BIOS in revision
| >1007.
| >
| >Thank You
|
| An A7M266 with a 1400MHz TBird should have been assembled around the
| summer of 2001. Even the worst-available HSF from 2001 should
easily
| keep that CPU below 55C. BIOS 1007 reports temperatures fully 10°
| hotter than prior versions, but your temps are still way high. If
| it's run for three years without maintenance, it could just be
clogged
| up with dust. Have you cracked the case to vacuum all the fins on
| the heatsink and all the air inlets in the front of the case?
| Ron

My 1400 Tbird lived in the basement, where the air is cool, and under
load it would approach 60C temp easily. Idle temps were in the hi
40's to low 50's. I note my case did not have exceptional cooling (2
fans). In a warmer room, it would not surprise me to see temps in the
low 60s (C) under load. These temps were with a Coolermaster HSF
slightly better (larger) than the stock retail HSF. The stock HSF in
a retail package was also a Coolermaster design (I believe).

My experience with the 1400 Tbird was as follows: About every 6-12
months I needed to reapply the thermal compound as it tended to
migrate out of the HS-CPU interface (I was using Arctic Silver II).
Maybe newer formulations work better than ACII. Average temps would
drop 3-5 degrees after a new coat of ACII.
 
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Adiabatic

I am running an AMD Athlon 1400 MHz (Thunderbird) in an Asus A7M266
motherboard. It seems to be running too hot and it's worrying me. The


Good luck! That chip runs kinda hot anyway.

I have one running as a game server.
 

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